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    Don't trust Apple. Ever.

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by jonhapimp, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

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    < /initate pew pew defense system >

    On another note, that article kind of sucked for Gizmodo...
     
  3. idq000

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    lol. That was great!
     
  4. burkle25

    burkle25 Are you a color?

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    +1 for it being funny.
    -1 for using the "word" hella.

    so you're at 0 :p
     
  5. LongLiveLife

    LongLiveLife Notebook Consultant

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    Gizmodo?

    DOING A NON-APPLE BIASED ARTICLE?!?!

    C'mon into the nuclear shelter, It looks like the end of the world.
     
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    Psh, since no one else is willing to bash Apple, I'll do it!

    Although..well, if you really think about it, no reasonable person would trust any marketing by any company. That's like saying a reasonable person would trust something a political candidate says at face value... ... ...

    After all, when's the last time you made any decision for something worth hundreds of $ based upon an ad, or where you depended on an ad to become aware of the existence of such a product?

    If people made an important decision solely based on an ad from Apple that they wouldn't have made otherwise without further research, they deserve to be ripped off. Caveat Emptor and all that.
     
  7. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Good, Steve Jobs is an excellent speaker but he is a liar and a salesman. He says "you need this" and all the apple drones/clones nod their heads and say YES, YES WE NEED THAT. Then they go tell all of their friends why their mac is better - little do they know the comparably priced PC has two of whatever they needed in their Mac. Apple is an evil corporation, and though that guy is a tool for suing them over a marketing campaign, I'm glad not everyone eats up their ****, especially with their new aggressive (and effective) marketing tactics.
     
  8. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

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    [​IMG]
    Apple in my eyes
     
  9. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    ^^ That is funnier.
     
  10. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Of course it's obvious that's Adam and Eve and the Serpent in the garden of eden, but I don't understand what the partially eaten Apple means in this scene. :confused:

    Edit: Looking at it more closely, if you partake of the Apple, you will live forever??? I still don't get it really.
     
  11. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Really? You own an apple product but don't know what the original Mac logo looks like?

    It used to be rainbow before it was white and they went high gloss everywhere. You know, back when Macs were good.
     
  12. Modly

    Modly Warranty Voider

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    Sounds more like an ATT based problem.

    The 3G network spec is supposed to be more than twice as fast as 1G networks. Doesn't sound like something Apple really has control over...
     
  13. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

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    but they were in charge of the ad's
     
  14. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

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    seriously it's the old apple logo back in the 80's and 90's
     
  15. taelrak

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    Ah, the good ol' Apple IIe days....

    Well on the bright side, no matter what Apple does these days, it can't be nearly as bad as the aesthetic monstrosity of the iBook :p
     
  16. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Ugh, yes I know that. I meant, I didn't really get the scene, what was trying to be said here? Apple is the tree of life? :rolleyes:
     
  17. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    No, are you familiar with the story of adam and eve?
    The apple represents evil and temptation, and giving in to it. The comic is saying owning an apple product is giving in to evil... and we all know how the store of Adam and Eve ends...
     
  18. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Yes of course. :)
    I see now, the obvious was totally oblivious to me this time. :rolleyes: @ me.
     
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    Doesn't the apple just represent knowledge? It's a matter of interpretation that it's necessarily "evil" :p In fact, isn't it the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil"....so it's not like the knowledge itself is necessarily morally culpable.

    Wouldn't you rather brave what horrors may lay outside than be bound in a cage of ignorance in a false paradise like an animal in a zoo, no matter how pleasant that zoo is?
     
  20. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    I don't know, how much cake is in the zoo?
    I don't want to get into a religious debate, but that's certainly how I interpreted the comic because as I recall from the store, Adam and Eve were forbidden by God to touch the Apple.
     
  21. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    They could partake in the tree of life, not the tree of knowlege. :) So I guess that picture really is open to interpretation. :p

    Besides, I prefer koolaid. :p
    [​IMG].
     
  22. jonhapimp

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    y'all are looking Way into the picture :)
    and i love kool-aid
     
  23. Prydeless

    Prydeless Stupid is

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    Koolaid is so obnoxious; always bursting through walls without fixing it. Really, wth is up with that? I'm surprised Koolaid isn't in prison by now.
     
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    And it's sooooo much better to give in to the evil of micro$oft...
     
  25. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

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    ^^ Troll in training
     
  26. TheUndertow

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    So I came into this thread looking for some dirt and I find a comic and debate over Adam and Eve....weird.
     
  27. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Microsoft has a monopoly, but they aren't evil. They're an honest corporation that's become very successful. Apple on the other hand will deceive their consumers to turn a profit.
     
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    Honest corporation? What an absurd concept :p

    Corporations by definition are and should be as dishonest as they can get away with!
     
  29. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Of course all marketing departments will take liberties, but I would trust MS over Apple any day of the week...
     
  30. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

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    Honest corporation......yup, sure are! :rolleyes: That's why they've been the target of several Anti-Trust lawsuits. I wouldn't trust Micro$loth as far as I could throw them.

    Someone's been drinking a little too much of the Microsoft Kool-Aid. Theirs doesn't just stain your tongue, it stains your soul......BLACK!
     
  31. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Nah, I'd rather just stand up for them. I admitted that they do wrong, but they're not anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be.
    Apple is on the other hand much worse than they are made out to be.
     
  32. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    MS only controls software. And even then you are given every opportunity to use whatever you want on your Windows PC. Apple on the other hand controls your software AND your hardware. And they love to exercise their control. Apple censors iPhone apps such as explained here (link below) and won't even let the app developers disclose why it was rejected because of NDAs.

    http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/25/1223244&from=rss

    Apple also likes to release firmware updates to their products preventing them from working properly with 3rd party apps. I am not sure all that censorship is worth the premium price tag. ;)
     
  33. jonhapimp

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    i'm not a troll i was going to post this on off-topic but this is a apple thing
     
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    This is why companies have lawyers write their license agreements. It is why every Windows program you install has a multi-page license you have to agree to before you install the program. It's so companies don't have to deal with lawsuits like these.

    If only apple put "Twice as fast for half the price.*" *Depends on a variety of factors such as network, location, ... when compared to a [insert overpriced phone here] they couldn't have been sued.
     
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    they should insert a point that twice as fast, and half the price is comparing to different phones

    or... vertu :)
     
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    This just in. Corporations will go to extreme lengths to make their products look good in this silly attempt to make what are called "profits".

    I have no problem with what apple did.
    I have no problem with the guy suing Apple if he believed apple was extremely untruthful with product presentation and wanted to set an "injustice" right.

    You can say the same about most car commercials, food commercials, or *insert most product here*

    I would hope most people wouldn't go out and buy a car or even a new HDTV after seeing a few commercials on TV. No, the *smart* thing to do is spend time researching and maybe even find other people that already own the product and get their opinion on it.
     
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    Hrm. Agree with everything except the line: "I have no problem with the guy suing Apple if he believed apple was extremely untruthful with product presentation and wanted to set an "injustice" right."

    I'll agree with that statement as far as it goes (i.e. " if he believed...").

    Still, how many of these plaintiffs actually 'believe' anything of the sort, and how many are just being targeted by lawyers with form pleadings who want to make a quick few mil in attorney fees from a settlement that wouldn't even benefit the class? I'd put my money on the latter.
     
  38. Robgunn

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    So would I, but I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt for now. Personally, I would have just returned the iPhone, told my friends my experience, and maybe, just maybe, lodge my complaint at Apple by e-mailing jobs or whomever...
     
  39. ronnieb

    ronnieb Representing the Canucks

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    And he himself will create software necesary to make 3G lightning fast?

    Up yours Steve Jobs!
     
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    Wow after reading this thread makes me leary to buy a powerbook from Mac..Guess I need to do more research then. :(
     
  41. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

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    FUD and nothing more!
     
  42. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I think we've reached the end of useful discussion. Frankly, I'm surprised this thread didn't explode.