I love my 15-inch rMBP. But it is a little big and heavy, and I may be due for an upgrade when I go to college next year--particularly to a computer a bit more portable. But I guess my concern is with the lack of discrete graphics in the 13-inch. However, I don't play games, but I do use Photoshop and Lightroom pretty often. Is there any significant performance slump in the 13-inch due to the lack of discrete graphics? Would I notice it?
Any help is appreciated.
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Benchmark Results: Photoshop CS6 - Can OpenGL And OpenCL Overhaul Your Photo Editing Experience?
Windows and OSX variances are fairly similar. Also note that NVidia Kepler based GPU's are OpenCL neutered for gaming etc, and Adobe has more or less dumped the proprietary CUDA technology. -
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The lack of a discreet GPU actually helps these machines, as the Iris and Iris Pro are much better suited to the OpenCL Adobe now uses versus the Geforce GT 650M/750M found in the 15-inch rMBP. A Dell Precision M3800 with its K1100M will do better since its Quadro-based GPU has proper OpenCL support, and Adobe now performs better under Windows anyway.
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and you are correct the K1100m is roughly 250% faster than the Iris Pro. the k5100m about 1400%
it is another case of benchmarks and marketing NOT matching the real world work environment -
I miss the days when your gaming GPU was good enough for professional use.
Stupid companies trying to milk professionals with their "workstation" crap.
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Gaming chips were never good for really heavy pro level stuff, especially since the days of the Voodoo2 / Matrox Millennium GPU where 3D became commonplace. We have always needed a different set of functions just that pro GPU's have trickled down now that software and needs have become so complex that it was necessary to split pusing pixels for high framerates and pushing gigabytes of mathematically complex formulas for creating that media became mutually exclusive in most cases. and now time is serious money in the pro market so of course the major players in content creation and design want to harness GPGPU functions et al to make their product faster and more productive -
Alright, thank you all. I don't do too much heavy-duty graphics work, but I edit photos, including RAW, I use Lightroom, etc.
I'm also wondering in just day to day web-browsing and video-watching, will the lack of a graphics card slow it down or cause the computer to become hotter? -
Lack of a discrete GPU will mean the laptop will be less hot. Less hardware heating it up. Intel's integrated graphics on the new Haswell (4th gen i-series) is a lot better than it was. More than enough to accelerate all your desktop apps and even some light gaming. Web browsing, photo editing and video watching are all very low impact. In fact you can do all those things on a tablet. As for lightroom and photo editing, just make sure you have enough RAM. Unless you're a big gamer or you're using this for day-in day-out work you likely won't even notice the lack of GPU.
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To be honest, if anything's going to put me off the 13-inch, it's that 1200x800 resolution. 1440x900 is bad enough on the 15-inch, but I was using my friend's 13-inch and noticing how little room there is on StreetView and Spotify and other things (not that Street View is great on these computers anyway, made my computer go from 120 F to almost 200 in just a few minutes).
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Anandtech put both Iris and Iris Pro through the wringer a few months ago - real world type tests not just generic benchmarks. And as Anandtech does they also went in depth into the new architecture. They found that while it isn't going to push NVidia out of the gaming space it is FAR more powerful than prior IGPs. Iris Pro actually performs roughly on par in most areas with a 650M.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATKDuQOQw9k&feature=youtube_gdata_player
750M added to the mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4rgL9dW7mw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does the lack of discrete graphics "slow down" the 13-inch rMBP?
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