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    Bootcamp 1.3

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by dasein, Jun 7, 2007.

  1. dasein

    dasein Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nice, they got this out faster than I thought they would.
     
  3. sp00n

    sp00n Notebook Deity

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    Just a couple days after the release of the Macbook Pro, nice.
     
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    nameless1 Notebook Consultant

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    With bootcamp, can you change what sizes you use for the windows and the mac segments on the hard drive later on or can you only pick the division once?
     
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    Only pick the division once. =(
     
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    new 3dmark scorez plz :D
     
  8. circa86

    circa86 Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    nice, very quick, good job Apple.

    damnit, i am just convinced more and more everyday, haha, first it is awesome updates to final cut studio, then it is these mbp updates, then it is prompt software updates.

    I am really starting to like the idea of the OS and hardware being built by the same company, along with the good partners they have, but keep the main elements in their control. it is incredibly smart actually, keeping the market share at a reasonable level is such a huge benefit for Apples reputation.
     
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    hardware and os built by the same company?
     
  10. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just the idea that Apple does both (makes computers and develops the OS and software for them). This has been the basic Apple philosophy for a very long time. The idea essentially is that it gives them better control over the whole user experience, so they not only get to design how OS X itself works, but even tiny little details like the pulsing "sleep" LED on their computers.

    It also gives them the luxury of only having to support their own hardware; one of the biggest reasons Apple doesn't just sell OS X for any PC is because it would give them less control over the entire user experience, and there would be more risk of certain hardware combinations not working correctly, etc.

    This is a problem Microsoft has always had to deal with; they can only develop Windows and do as much as they can to support the vast sea of PC hardware out there; but once a company creates their own PC and slaps Windows on it, MS doesn't necessarily have control over what components they use, what combination of components they use, etc.

    Apple also extended this philosophy to the iPod and iTunes.

    Microsoft tried the "PC" approach with previous iPod rivals, with their attempts to create a standard interface (for Personal Media Players, or PMPs), and then PlaysForSure.

    The Zune essentially represents Microsoft's acknowledgement that there is something to be said for controlling the hardware and the software, and being able to offer a single unified experience.

    -Zadillo
     
  11. sheldon77

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    but essentially the actual hardware used isnt built by apple.
    cpu - intel
    gpu - nvidia
    hdd - etc..
    or does he mean the whole thing is assembled by apple to a specific config.
     
  12. zadillo

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    It means that Apple designs the entire machine; of course individual components aren't made by them - that's always been the case. But the point is, Apple designs the hardware and the software.

    This is different from, say, Dell, who builds PC's that run an operating system developed by Microsoft.

    -Zadillo
     
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    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    yeah its not so much who makes the hardware-

    apple just picks the hardware the want to use and then develops software around that. so all their machines have consistent hardware and software.

    this is why you have a better experience with things "working" with apple.

    this is also why consoles are easier to play games on than a pc.

    it makes a much better experience for the end user.
     
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    infiniti007 Notebook Guru

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    I'm new to Mac OS X and bootcamp, and I have a question. Does anyone know if it is possible to transfer a file from the partition with Windows on it to the partition with Mac OS X? Or is it the case that when you partition with bootcamp the files in Mac OS X and the files in Windows remain exclusive from each other?
     
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    When in OS X, if your Windows partition is FAT32, you can read and write form it. If your Windows partition is NTFS then you can just read to it. Either way you can transfer a file from your Windows partition to OS X. When in Windows you will need a program called MacDrive which will allow you to read and write to your OS X partition.

    I use NTFS and MacDrive and my strategy is to have only programs on my Windows partition. All my files are on my Mac partition which XP can read using MacDrive. This virtually eliminates the need to transfer anything back and forth and avoids the inability of OS X to write to NTFS drives. It's probably more secure anyways having my documents separate from Windows.
     
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    If for some reason you did have files on the Windows partition that you wanted to edit while in Mac OS, would your Windows partition need to be FAT32? Or, is there a similar program like MacDrive that allows you to read/write to your Windows partition while in mac os?
     
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    I don't know much about it, but supposedly MacFuse will let you work with NTFS file systems inside OS X:

    http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/

    Someone who knows more about this kind of thing can say if this would actually be useful for that or not.
     
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