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    Apple neutered ad blockers in Safari, but unlike Chrome, users didn't say a thing

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Apple neutered ad blockers in Safari, but unlike Chrome, users didn't say a thing
    On the other hand, everyone was busy blasting Google for a similar plan in Chrome
    September 21, 2019


    https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple...ri-but-unlike-chrome-users-didnt-say-a-thing/

     
  2. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Who uses Safari these days? Every Mac or iPhone user I've install Google Chrome and call it a day! Safari has less user base and people won't even know if Safari got new updates or removed useful features!
     
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    don't blame the messenger :rolleyes:
     
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    I use Safari. I do not participate or use anything Google on my iOS/OSX devices. I still use Firefox and ad blocker plus on my Windows machines.
     
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    When I get my Mac, I will also use Safari as I heard it's the best for battery life and the snappiest.
     
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    I'm guessing AdGuard for MacOS would get around this issue since it would run at the OS/software level rather than at that of the browser.
     
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    On iPhone and iPad, 3rd party browser must use only Safari rendering engine so you won't see any changes.
    I found a neat trick by spoofing User agent string using an extension to get super fast loading times on FF mobile and desktop. Less loading circles... Haha... But on some old website it breaks the compatibility especially your Tax and older banking apps.
    What will happen your current drives and premium RAM sticks?
     
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    Yup, use Safari for integration into the Apple eco-system, I used to do so as well when I used Macintosh's as part of the triumvirate of computers daily for work - some clients still issue Macbooks only unless you ask for a Windows Laptop - or a Linux laptop, and I used to carry Macintosh 17" + Windows 17" of my own - dual carry. With Linux in VM's.

    Now that Apple went the skinny laptop route, dropped the 17" and pushed the 12"/13"/15"'s thinner and thinner my work set would light up the fans constantly and heat those little suckers up, I used to put dixie cups under all 4 corners and aim fans at the underside to help cool them off.

    I really wish Apple would lose the form over function, money over egalitarian treatment of all customers - the best performance and technology for everyone, with higher configurations being more memory and storage and other optional features.

    And, adblockers should be allowed in Safari - we don't need ad's - we know what we want to buy and don't need to be interrupted when we are pursuing other interests or work by something we have absolutely no interest in pursuing now or later. Every ad I see gives me a mental note *not* to buy what is being pushed, as it just stole my time and effort as a distraction for my thought processes, I'm certainly not of a mind to reward that interruption with a purchase.

    Apple could do it, always could, but they over engineer and over dress up their designs and builds - soaking up costs on useless BS instead of putting the money in to performance and delivering highest performance for all.

    Imagine what Apple could really be doing, and look at what they are doing, now that's how I feel about Apple.
     
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    1Blocker X: Faster & Safer Web
     
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    Awesome, Apple let one through :)

    If you check it out please let us know how it works.

    One of the things I like on PC are adblockers and other privacy programs that are free, done by independent people passionate about the idea - and build a team of volunteers either in their realm or outside teams that make the lists of content to block.

    When I see a paid or sponsored product, I feel that person may be motivated by money, probably true as all of us have to eat, but it's a worry to me that they might be bought - or bought out compromising the product or my privacy / data.

    I guess they are serious as it's $4.99 - not too high but high enough, probably hoping to grow into that price over time.

    It just feels weird paying to be able to stop ad's while browsing. I think that's a bad thing to encourage. But, if it's the only choice that's what we do - I've done the same on Android.

    Samsung sponsors a number of ports of adblocker extensions that run under their Internet browser, but their "ads" are allowed - which you can also block with some of the blocking "extensions".

    I wish Samsung would make an interface to those adblocker ports available to Mozilla / Google for their browsers - maybe with Samsung ad's so Samsung gets the same potential to interrupt us with stuff we don't want. We already search out good apps and go through all of their Store stuff anyway, the interstitial ads are unnecessary and annoying.

    If I haven't already signed up for Samsung Pay pushing it on me while browsing isn't going to build a warm feeling toward that or anything else they are pushing.

    Wow, I found a Tom's article for recommended adblockers and privacy extensions, then it blocked me for having an adblocker. :)
    Toms article on recommended adblocks blocks me until I turn off my ad blocker.JPG
     
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    I’ve been using 1Blocker and now 1Blocker X on my iOS devices ever since it was released. I’d say it’s the best Adblocker in the Apple ecosystem. There was a performance review a while back somewhere where it proved to be the best at least on mobile, of course things could have changed over time though. uBlock Origin was probably the best on Mac side of things but it’s no longer supported unfortunately in newer versions of Safari on MacOS. One Blocker is a good alternative. Safari isn’t as fast as Chrome by any means but privacy oriented Mac users usually prefer that and Firefox, and yeah it’s more optimized for better battery life.
     
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    same here, I use 1Blocker on macOS and iOS they work perfectly.

    They will also be bringing new updates soon which will include getting rid of these stupid cookie consent notices.
     
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