I was considering buying the new Apple PB Pro but was very disappointed by their new ugly design and lack of functionality.
Removing the mouse button was their biggest mistake, do they beleive all Apple users just sit and look at their laptops or actually use them for productivity?
The new keyboard is a joke, who came up with that idea at Apple?
The ugly black cornered design of the display is even worse, ugh, it looks terrible![]()
It seems after reading on the net that many people share my view about current Apple laptops.
Apple must rethink their strategy because they lose alot of potential new customers right now.
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I love the chicklet keyboard, it's been around since the original MacBook and before that on various Sony Laptops. Also, the whole trackpad's a physical button, pretty cool.
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fastrandstrongr Notebook Evangelist
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My laptop has an mac-like keyboard, and I love it. I also usually tap the trackpad instead of clicking.
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I like both designs...and yes,new touchpad is awesome.
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Every user has their own opinion, and there are also quite a lot of people out there who actually like the unibody design, keyboard, and glass trackpad. A lot of decisions made in the design of the aluminium Macbooks were risky, but they're actually quite good once you get used it.
I would recommend the OP to play around with a Macbook for a while (either from a friend or at a store) before deciding on anything. -
sell it! sell it(10 chars)
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I like the new MBP's but I have no intention of upgrading currently. I don't use my MBP enough to justify it. -
The chicklet keyboard has been around forever and is pretty nice. the new trackpad is ALOT better then I thought it would be. its actually quit cool and comfortable to use.
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cant please everyone... the things you think are bad or look ugly.. I think are good and look good... Apple cant make a product everyone will like, its not possible no matter what they make.
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The Sony even looks better and they were smart enough to make it all black.
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fastrandstrongr Notebook Evangelist
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I can relate to the touchpad opinion.
When I was first thinking of buying a new notebook with linux or buying a MBP I went to Best Buy and played around with one. My first impression was that pushing the touchpad down as a button was the worst idea in the world. When my wife insisted on a MB to replace her Dell when it died I got a chance to finally try out the touchpad and OSX. I fell in love with the MB within 5 minutes and placed my order for the MBP that night.
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i do agree with you on the black keyboard, but it would look just as ugly with silver, although i would love to have the keboard made of metal.
for my comment about the new mb/p, i do like it closed, but i don't like t opened, relative to mine.
keypad is a keypad, i actually prefer the new one now but only due to ease of cleaning and applying invisible shield, and design; but indifference to the use. -
Here is a tip, and really big tip, Just imagine that the button is there and use your thumb to click the imaginary button and guess what!! It works just the same!!
Most people that do not like the track pad hasn't used it for more then a day or two. -
I have the older MBP model and almost never use the physical mouse button. I find it much more natural to just tap on the touchpad so I would gladly give up the button for more Touchpad space like in the unibody MacBooks. I also find that I type much more accurately on chicklet style keyboards from using the iMacs in campus computer clusters.
How exactly do this changes negatively effect functionality? Now if your complaints were redirected to Apple's choice of excluding a FW400 port... -
my biggest complaint is the awkwardness apple choose to have on a mouse
the acceleration goes from 0 to max that triggers by a minor acceleration without given us the option to turn it off.
i have to say i am really disappointed that apple doesn't give us any option to fix this issue.
sure, the trackpad works really well on everyday use, but it is not precise enough and mouse isn't an option at this point.
here, my complaint that's not about FW400
but seriously, let us use our mouse peacefully apple, i am not gaming good on world of goo here getting OCD!!! -
You are paying $3000 and Apple forces people to use the new Displayport without supplying the adapter to it, that's cheap.
Good for Apple as they make more money but consumers has to pay more, why not stick to DVI or HDMI as everyone does?
And the keyboard is really stupid because if you spill some coffee on it you are busted, you can't just change the keyboard easy like any other laptop. -
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HDMI has licensing fee Apple didn't want to get into, display port is better and once more company's start using it, it will be the new HDMI.
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Touchpad never works good, only Apple fanboys beleive so, have you ever tried anything else? try the trackpoint from Lenovo next time and you will be changed how much faster you can work.
Apple users priority one is design and looks, Apple lost that with their new generation of MBs, now it looks like a comparable Acer laptop you buy cheap at some outlet.
Productivity? well using a touchpad and now removing the mouse button makes the whole laptop worthless.
Yes Apple lost it as you can read in numerous articles, Apple couldn't even include a BD-R, they still use DVD, old technology.
Many people share my opinion and was considering buying the new MB, but after this, it's a big no, my money goes elsewhere and Apple lost another customer. -
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I guess I am confused as to what exactly is supposed to be special about Apple's touchpad... don't all touchpads work like a mouse button when you tap on them?
...so what they did was "innovate" by removing a button and giving you less? -
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With any other laptop except Sony you just change the keyboard and everything will be fine most often.
Apple users always say they are unique, but it's BS because it's the same hardware and does the same thing.
Making the touchpad HUGE on the new MBs is bad because it means the coordination will be even worse for people who desire to work fast with their computer.
Also if you have two fingers on a touchpad i can guarantee you that the touchpad will freak out and i can guarantee you that happens often when you have to work fast at the office and you are stressed.
And the glass Apple use on their touchpad is just for looks, it got no functionality at all.
Apple had a winning concept before the new MBs, but they removed it, change of management at Apple maybe or Apple lost their brain while Steve Jobs was away sick and all hell break lose at Apple during that time the new MB was developed? -
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There are vids on how the multi-touch works on the touchpad. I have yet to see a PC (Synaptics) touchpad that has additional funcitonality outside of scrolling on the right side and bottom. Sure, you can tap+hold to select and move things, but that's about it.
With the Apple multitouch pad, you can use multiple fingers to zoom in and out, move apps/pages easily, swap through apps, etc. The touchpad itself on the Apple actually "tilts" when you press the corners to click; so no, they didn't remove the click/button.
If PC laptops integrated Apple's multitouch technology on their touchpads, I think Apple wouldn't have as many converts. It's *that* good. -
Looks to me like another useless post trying to start a flame war. If you don't like it don't buy it... no one is forcing you too use apple are they?
All your other posts are in the Dell/asus section... suggesting that your not a mac user or even a current owner... thus I really can't see the point of this thread.
I hope the Mod"s close it asap
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ps I'll say it again.. I wish this forum would get back to the business of helping people FIX their Mac related problems -
wow, what a waste of time. You guys are just throwing wood to the fire, just let him say whatever he wants, it is obvious that the OP's intentions are to ruffle some feathers over here. Maybe someone should close this?
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you'll guarantee a touchpad will freak out.. ???? dude, your living like 10 years in the past (or current on Windows laptops) if you think that... Apples touchpads for years have supported and work fine with multiple fingers, nothing freaks out... its apparent you haven't ever used one of Apples to say total lies like this.
there is a video that decently shows some features of the trackpad... go to the following link, scroll down to the Touchpad section (read it if you want) and click to watch the demo video...
http://www.apple.com/macbook/features.html
these touchpads are so awesome.. i wish they'd make a USB one i could use on a desktop (and no, no current USB touchpad even holds a candle to usability as these) -
What is fault with that? many people agree with me, i am not a hardcore Apple consumer who accepts everything Apple releases and can't see their faults.
As i said, their design is a total disaster, why did they change a working design they had? why make it a total disaster?
Apple skimped on everything, even the packaging box it comes in is small and tiny to save resources, the whole aluminiun cutout is to save costs, but it looks terrible.
And please don't mention the touchpad and virtual mouse button.
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I am a harcore Thinkpad user and always used them most of the time and was considering buying the new MB from Apple but i beleive i have to re-consider that now and take my money elsewhere.
Apple doesn't even offer a integrated WWAN card, that is scary.... -
fastrandstrongr Notebook Evangelist
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The OP sounds like he is basing his claims on gossip and not from personal experience. I would strongly recommend you try out the products first before raising any suggestions or complaints about the product on the forum (not restricted to Apple products and the Apple forum). Otherwise, you simply risk having your thread closed and disciplinary action being taken against your forum account.
Thread closed.
Apple lost the touch?
Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Likvid, Mar 31, 2009.