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    Any "switchers" out there have buyers remorse?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by @dam, Jul 2, 2007.

  1. @dam

    @dam Notebook Guru

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    I'm thinking of switcing to a macbook. Do any of you switchers out there still prefer windows?
     
  2. Sam

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    Nopes, never missed Windows, except maybe for gaming. Once you learn Mac OS X, you will realize how much more convenient and useful Mac OS X is. Less things you have to worry about like disk defragmenting or antivirus. The operating system itself has a more clean and nice graphical look, and tasks are done easier - installing an application is as easy as dragging an icon to the Applications folder (some of the bigger applications like Photoshop will need a "InstallShield" like installation).
     
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    Nope. And if i ever get that sad feeling, i'll just reboot into it.


    There both GREAT operating systems, and they both serve their purposes wonderfully! I just need a break from years of windows.


    Its almost like a mid-computer life crisis.
     
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    What Sam said.
     
  5. Nicholie

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    Lol... oh ye know of little. I won't waste php on this.
     
  6. StormEffect

    StormEffect Lazer. *pew pew*

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    Its also good for people who don't have a shift or caps key! Oh...wha...HEY it would be GREAT for you!!

    Na, in all seriousness, with the introduction of BootCamp 1.3 the discussion is almost irrelevant. You can try out a Mac and have an entire windows partition ready for use whenever you need it.

    This makes me laugh. :D

    I hope its not true, otherwise we'd better get some sort of police people involved!!
     
  7. Percybut

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    I use both Windows and OS X. If you play games, windows is definitely better. But OS X is great other than gaming.
     
  8. l33t_c0w

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    I get buyer's remorse every time I put my macbook to sleep and then wake it up somewhere else with smb shares still mounted.

    (Not really. That does drive me nuts though. And I hate seeing people gush about OS X.)

    (edit) Thought I'd expand my post a little more. As for preference... It's a tossup for me. I can see why most people seem to like OS X more than Windows. My feeling is that they both have pros and cons, and I can't quite decide which I prefer. There are definately times using OS X when I am dying for Windows Explorer, or some other Windows thing. On the other hand, just last night I was really wishing I had Expose on my Windows box (Had maybe 20 windows spread over two monitors and was switching back and forth between apps).

    If I had to have only one, it'd be Windows, because of the applications, but I'm not sure whether I prefer Windows, or whether it just breaks even.
     
  9. HLdan

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    Dude that's a very rude response and unnecessary. It's quite pompous of you to say such rude things. Most people that spell it the way you did are usually haters of the Macintosh and have really never used it. Gaming is not only on a home computer so not everyone "needs" to game so much that they would regret a computer purchase that serves them much more than just gaming. Apple just signed a huge deal with id software and EA Sports as well as having some fantastic current titles like Quake and Doom (not ports) that run natively on the Mac very well. Most games from now on will be released on both the Windows and Mac platform simultaneously.

    If you have nothing but low level education to offer to the OP then post elsewhere, we don't need trolls.
     
  10. Nicholie

    Nicholie Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Yep........
     
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    I regret my lack of foresight concerning OSX and having used Windows for so long before making the switch. For having bought so many Windows machines in the past, I feel deep regret and great shame. [​IMG]
     
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    Definitely think about it first. Like any product, different brands/models will suit different people. I got an iBook around the same time I switched to a PC desktop (XP/Linux). I have had buyers remorse based on the price of the laptop versus its PC counterparts. It seems absurd to me that Apple charges so much for that logo. I really think that iLife and bundled apps are really what you should look into. If you love those then you should probably get a Mac. I know a few people with MBPs and they all run XP most of the time so that they can run third party apps. I might just be an exception, but I've had a lot of bad experiences with OSX and Apple.
     
  13. stjs7857

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    no regrets here. osx is far better in my opinion. I just spent the last two hours on my wifes pc doing virus scans , spyware check, and defragment.....its great to pick up my mac night after night and not run all this crap....and I am VERY excited about leopard.
     
  14. HLdan

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    If you think Apple charges a Kings ransom for the  logo then move your annoyance to the Sony Vaio. It seems absurd to "ME" that Sony charges for the Vaio logo. Sony offers nothing more than any other common Windows PC yet they charge a whole lot more for a little better styling.
    At least Apple is offering a choice of a different OS that offers a lot and the current machines run both Mac OS X and Windows, although it's a waste to use it primarily as a Windows machine.
     
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    It's one thing to compare a PC laptop to a Mac laptop and form an opinion.

    It's quite another to compare a PC desktop to a Mac laptop. Of course you're going to see a huge price/value difference between your PC desktop and your Mac laptop. You're comparing a desktop to a laptop! The desktop will win in terms of performance value for price hands down for any computer manufacturer out there.


    Back to the original topic:
    No regrets so far. It's hard to regret something when you really haven't sacrificed anything (i.e. I still have Windows Vista on Boot Camp as well. Even though I haven't felt the need to boot it up ever since I first installed it, it's still there if I need it).

    I actually did buy iDefrag just in case. My external HDDs have a ton of large files that I change regularly, and over the long run, I might defrag it now and then. I do have a tiny bit of buyer's remorse for buying a $40 program that I'll so rarely use, but ...oh well.
     
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    Well said, that exactly how I feel. I bought a powerbook a few years back. Upgraded to the first MBP (which I use now) and have since bought a PPC iMac for the kids, my wifes Macbook, and my desktop is a Quad Power Mac. I've been able to intergrate my home with Apple products too. Appletv (connected to a 42" LCD is awesome), docks for my iPods all over (kitchen, bathroom, bedroom) and I just got the new Airport and run a 1tb USB drive off that. I may end up getting an iPhone if they ever have a CDMA version too. The damn things make my life easier and I've been back in school getting my masters and will finish my PHD so I simply do not have the time to worry about computers and maintaining them.

    Then on the other hand I have relatives calling me all the time asking for help with their windows machines. I watch my father-in-law spending hours maintaining his system. So to ask me do I regret switching? The answer is simply "hell no"
     
  17. andrewt1187

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    Well, if you are a student (200off plus free iPod) the Macbook Pro is actually a great deal. The base model at least. Its an expensive computer, but an Asus G1 is just as much.
     
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    And they have 0% for two years. I am planning on buying a 17" SR for the fall semester. Pay it off with Fin Aid! :D
     
  20. Khz

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    I got the student deal. I bought the 2.4 ghz MBP for 2300, got a 30g Color Ipod Video for 50$, and a free printer (good quality too).

    Although the laptop itself is pretty expensive, it FLYS. I love it, and its the best tech purchase I have ever made.

    As for gaming, WoW runs flawlessly, but that is all I really tested out. I am going to purchase oblivion soon, (after guitar hero 2 for my xbox 360 =D) to see how that runs, but I have heard it is fine with medium graphics settings.

    I raided for a while last night and the laptop as starting to get pretty warm. Are there any issues with overheating?
     
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    No, it doesn't overheat. It's Apples passive cooling. They are all like that..


     
  22. Harper2.0

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    You seemed to have missed the MAC OSX in all CAPS...and it wouldnt be great for me because, if i dont use it in windows, what makes you think i'll use it on a mac? LOL.
     
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    have you heard of the term called FORUM. people are free to express opinions. just as i did. You called me RUDE. then you say i have a low education? How rude is that? and when have you heard of MR. PHD saying DUDE. I'm sorry, but to me, you are the RUDE one.
     
  24. HLdan

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    Well judging on your response you just told the world how high your education was because you obviously didn't really "understand" my reply to you.
    First your response WAS rude. The OP asked a fair question and your only response was a hate remark which I won't take the time to quote you on. Lastly I said that you offered nothing but "low level education" to the OP, meaning it was useless and unhelpful. Many people on this forum have high levels of education and say words like "dude".
    I just read a previous hate post from you against Macs. This is a Mac forum and you are just trolling.
    I'm sure you are really nice fellow but you didn't need to tell us how smart you were.
     
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    @Drharpreet: You're right, for the most part, about speaking freely in a forum. However, posting simply to state your own extreme distaste for Macs in a Mac forum, serves no purpose obvious to me, other than to stir up the Mac crowd (of which I am a happy member). Frankly, despite the freedom which the Admins and Mods allow you, IMHO, your posts putting Macs in a negative light in a Mac forum seem . . . out of place (I'm trying to be polite).
     
  26. Harper2.0

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    LOL. yeah, I guess I sorta was trolling. BTW, my level of education isnt low fyi. And my post wasn't meant to be a hate post, just my opinion, sorry for making it sound like a hate post. Also I prefer not to argue on forums because it just takes forever, mostly by the fact that each oppenent thinks he/she is right.

    to the OP:

    There are people that have remorse from going to MACs, and there are also people who don't. Its mostly personal preference as to whether or not you will like a MAC or not. It has been made easier than windows to install an application, even though it takes a while to learn how to install it in the first place. It's more eye candy than Windows that's for sure. If you plan on doing some gaming, then Bootcamp, as mentioned earlier is a good option, but then you have to buy Windows, which you went away from(I see no point for this, seeing how you purchased a MAC to get away from Windows). So I'd say, whichever you choose, you can do a lot with. And it boils down to what you need to get done.
     
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    Not to seem rude, once again, i never stated that i have a high level of education. I'm pretty sure you would get ticked off if, you were a 2nd year college student and having people in forums calling you a person with a low education.
     
  28. Sam

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    No, not every gamer will regret the switch. The list of Mac games is growing quickly, major game studios are signing deals with Apple.

    And how can you even say that second line? Are you directly pointing fingers at every single Mac user, stating that that's all we do? Is Mac made for that? Really? Forums are for opinions, yes, but not for ignorant and unnecessary statements as this one you made. It is extremely offensive to all of these users here. I hope you take back that statement.

    The original poster asked if anyone who's switched has regretted their decision. Your second sentence is offensive and in absolutely no way helping the original poster in his/her decision. I hope the next time you post, its going to be helpful to the original poster or please don't make that post at all.

    Sorry if I sound cranky :p, but lately there's been quite a lot of "Apple Haters" patrolling the Apple forums lately. They haven't been helpful, and all they do is try to drive away anyone from thinking about switching to Mac.
     
  29. Harper2.0

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    no i wasnt pointing fingers at every MAC user, I was just saying that's probably what the creators of mac had in mind. i am sorry for all of this hostility, but I didnt know my "joking" would create all of this.
     
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    You mentioned Phd, and I was attempting to give you the benefit of doubt - I just misread that portion of your post. In any case, my comment was about your posts, NOT your education level.

    As I read hldan's post, his intent was not to belittle or mock your level of education, but rather, to describe what he felt was the level (or degree :D ) of your comments to the OP about Macs.

    Being ticked off now, given the nature of your posts in a Mac forum, doesn't surprise me.

    BTW, kudos to you for your "trolling" comments. Obviously, your understand what's being said - your education level can't be so bad after all. [​IMG]
     
  31. deathbyevilspoon

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    Well...now I know why this thread is so long haha.
    For the OP, I'm pretty good with windows. I'm basically the guy in the house that everyone comes to with computer related problems, and am even contacted frequently by my friends for help. I was a little hesitant to make the switch since the last time we had mac was when I was in about 5th grade, mighta ben 7th (I skipped 6th). We had a first gen imac, and I knew nothing about computers.

    Over the years I've come to have a really..."close", relationship with windows. I'm sure everyone has had those late nights trying to figure out why BSOD's or just other problems.

    I am now pretty much on top of my "windows game" and do a fairly well job with keeping it running, and I had just gotten used to doing virus scans, defrags, anti spyware, clearing temp files, etc. Since I've gotten the MBP that I have now, its been quite amazing. For the first few hours I did feel lost, but it only took about a day or two to get used to the feel of it, and there are all sorts of nifty features that I am finding. I do have bootcamp on here just for gaming, but plan to use osx for all other applications.

    All in all, I dont have any buyer's remorse whatsoever. For even being a laptop, this computer really beats my old, outdated windows PC, and is a breath of fresh air from the windows world.
    Good luck in your research, and I hope you are happy with whatever decision you make.
     
  32. Harper2.0

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    once again, comming forward with low blows. So, if you were a PHD, and in a Hospital, and other people such as MD's came up to you, and said that they think you have a low level of education may as well get you ticked off, and how many times does the in a Mac forum, have to be repeated? After the first time, I think a person would understand(sorry to sound rude once again).

    also, talking about virii, now that many people have started using Mac's. I wouldnt be surprised to see someone with a virus on their Mac.
     
  33. bmwrob

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    I was just making a point to you (which, apparently has been made), as you've been attempting with your last several posts. The only low blows in this Mac forum have come from a certain admitted troll, harpreet.

    And, I believe in my last post I mentioned to you exactly what I thought was being said to you with the comment about "low education."

    For a gent who doesn't want to seem rude, was "joking" about his Mac views, and who doesn't like to argue on forums, you seem a bit out of sorts tonight.
     
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    I'm done arguing, can't we just get along? and stop with the explaining of why you said what you said and when you said what you said and why you said it?
     
  35. ejl

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    please keep personal comments to yourself or to pms. this thread will be closed if this continues.
     
  36. Harper2.0

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    As stated above, I am done arguing.
     
  37. HLdan

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    Normally I wouldn't post again but no matter what your reply is you can be certain I will never respond again. I'm just trying to understand why are you posting here?

    You said you hate Macs but you post over and over in a Mac forum.
    You've said nothing helpful but argue. You keep talking about your education level and making examples even though you should know at this point what we have been trying to say.

    Funny how you are so offended by people you don't even know and don't know you. Wow, the power I have typing on a Mac certainly brings out the worst in trolls.

    Again, I'm just trying to understand why are you posting here in a Mac forum? It's going nowhere.
     
  38. bmwrob

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    To the OP: sorry for going OT. Some things just set me off and irritate the hell out of me.

    Personal, angry comments PMed.
     
  39. wrightc23

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    Nope I've got a MBP 2.4 with Vista on boot camp. I've also got VM Fusion running Debian, Windows 2003 and XP. I tend to use OS X for my everyday use and Java development then access one of the Windows platforms when I need to use .net/SQL/games.

    Works like a charm!
     
  40. Dutchies

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    No remorse at all! I just received the 2.2 Ghz, 160 GB Macbook Pro and even within 24 hours I am already getting accustomed to the OS. It works great.

    Only one thing until now that strikes me as illogical is that it is hard to find out were the Mac actually stores my pictures/ music.
     
  41. SoundsGood

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    I've seen this mentioned before, something about how Macs file things differently than Windows. Can anyone explain the difference?
     
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    In Windows, as you probably know, most things like pics and music are stored in My Documents. Well in OS X there is no such folder. There are, however, folders for Music, Movies, Pictures, and Documents. If you use iPhoto, that further complicates matters because iPhoto does not just throw your photos into the pictures folder. It keeps them in a folder structure that is contained within the Pictures folder. So to reach the folder your iPhoto pictures are in you must go to Pictures-->iPhoto Library and then either Modified or Originals. It's a pain. The intent though is that you will never need to use the folder structure, but rather view all photos through iPhoto or Aperature or the like.

    You see, OS X is more GUI centric and Windows is more folder/file explorer centric. In OS X if I want to view a picture, I fire up iPhoto or Aperature. In Windows I would go to the My Pictures folder.

    **EDIT** Oh and I have zero buyer's remorse. Once you get past the differences in philosophy, OS X is a dream. However, Windows is still very good as well.
     
  43. SoundsGood

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    Wow.

    To be perfectly honest, you may have just scared me away from a Mac.

    The way my brain operates, I think I'm more "folder/file explorer centric" than "GUI centric." The folder structure in Windows is very easy for me to understand (and use).
     
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    It was for me as well. Now, you can set the folders any way you like and end up with an experience just like Windows. It's just that out of the box, by default, iPhoto and the like will arrange the files in a way that is not intuitive. But there is nothing preventing you from arranging them yourself the way you want. So don't be too scared.
     
  45. SoundsGood

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    Hmmm. I dunno.
     
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    i kinda wanna get a mac for a lot of school work, but i also plan to do some light gaming, like sc2 and a few games like perhaps crysis in the future and far cry. would a macbookpro be ok for me? also, how is it changing from left and right clicks to just one kinda click (you know what i mean)?
     
  47. Harper2.0

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    for gaming, you might have to get a mouse, cuz it is kinda hard to right click. ctrl+click.
     
  48. Sam

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    There is another way, and in my opinion an easier way to right-click. Simply place two fingers on the touchpad and click the mouse button, and its a right click.

    I find this even better to use than a dedicated right click button, because you don't have to reach over to do a right click, you can just place two fingers on the touchpad and click anywhere on the mouse button.
     
  49. SoundsGood

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    Actually, that does sound better.

    I'm assuming that the normal "one finger click" on the touchpad will produce a left click, correct?
     
  50. Sam

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    Yeaps, you're right SoundsGood. Just clicking the mouse button with one finger on touchpad or no finger on touchpad is a left-click. Two fingers changes it to right click. The touchpad is so smart ;).

    It sounds good, doesn't it, SoundsGood? :p
     
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