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    8800M in Mac Book Pro?

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by _GZ_, Nov 30, 2007.

  1. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    Will the new 8800M graphic card be sold in any Apple laptop such as Mac Book Pro? Any rumours or confirmations?
     
  2. JM

    JM Mr. Misanthrope NBR Reviewer

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    Not likely, considering the added heat and power draw.
     
  3. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    Yeah. They already get hot. Imagine the added heat of a 35w GPU over the present max 25w.
     
  4. InlawBiker

    InlawBiker Notebook Evangelist

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    Apple doesn't tend to update their video cards very often do they? When they came out with the 8600 it was a big thing, the fastest on the market. Already it's too slow, funny how that works.
     
  5. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Apple don't make gamer notebooks. I dont think they'll sell it :)
     
  6. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    I don't think the 8800M GTX will end up in too many 15,4" laptops anyways.
     
  7. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wouldn't really agree with this.

    The 8600M GT Apple uses is still one of the top cards available in a 15.4" notebook.

    The more powerful 8800M is simply not going to be found in a 1" thick notebook (even the XPSM1530, which gets as thick as 1.38", still only uses an 8600M GT).

    The only 15" notebook that uses an 8800M is that Alienware machine, and that one appears to be considerably thicker and presumably heavier than the 1" thick 5.4 pound MBP.

    -Zadillo
     
  8. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    Assuming it would be the 17" MPB? More space, easier to cool. But is it to thin for the 8800M, does the card fit?

    By the way, when will the 17" come with LED display?
     
  9. Dustin_D

    Dustin_D Notebook Evangelist

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    M1530 uses an 8600.
     
  10. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    What part of my post was that in reference to? I said the XPS M1530 uses an 8600M GT.

    -Zadillo
     
  11. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    The problem with the MBP is that even the 17" model is still only 1" thick. I just suspect the 8800M isn't going to work well in it, and I wouldn't count on seeing it.

    It might still be a while before we see a 17" LED-backlit display; as it is, 15.4" LED-backlit displays are still pretty rare.

    It's only a matter of time though.

    -Zadillo
     
  12. vengance_01

    vengance_01 Notebook Deity

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    Yes you will not see an 8800 Mobile in the MBP. If we did it would be my dream come true ;)
     
  13. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

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    Apple isn't likely to update the GPU selection in January given the time frame. Both nVidia and ATI are working on shrinks of their current GPUs but they are both targetting Q2 when the majority of vendors will launch new designs based on the upcoming Montevina chipset. What's coming at MacWorld is likely just a processor refresh to Penryn on the existing Santa Rosa design. It is reasonable to expect a bump in clock speeds on the 8600M GT, like what the MR X1600 received in it's revision, but the liklihood of them completely changing GPUs is low. The most you could expect is a 8700M GT in the 17" MBP since it is essentially an overclocked 8600M GT anyways. In fact, the 17" MBP actually has it's core clocked above nVidia spec for the 8600M GT, although the memory bandwidth is a bit below spec.

    [Moderator's Message: You mispelled "overclock" and it censored it :D, so I edited it back for you :)]
     
  14. Dustin_D

    Dustin_D Notebook Evangelist

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    My mistake, I thought the M1330 came with the 8600 GS, not GT.
     
  15. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    I assume you meant the M1530 there.

    If so, yeah, the initial rumors about it were that it would only have an 8600M GS, which some people complained about - although which seemed to make sense combined with the rumors that the XPSM1530 would weigh only 4 pounds.

    -Zadillo
     
  16. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Same here..
     
  17. Redline

    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    Its not going to happen with the MBP. Now what is an interesting prospect is if they decided to put the 8800M GTX into the iMac...which wouldn't happen either, but its still more feasible than putting the NB8-E into an MBP.
     
  18. never2fast

    never2fast Notebook Geek

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    I reckon if the MacBook Pros get a hardware redesign, there could be a chance, lets not foget the upcoming Alienware M15X is a 15 incher with a 8800M GTX.
     
  19. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, but how thick and heavy is that Alienware M15x? I don't think Alienware has released the physical dimensions yet, but just from the photos it looks to be very much on the thick side.

    If the MBP gets a redesign, it's unlikely they will make it thicker than the current 1".

    -Zadillo
     
  20. never2fast

    never2fast Notebook Geek

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    Well, if we look back at all the macbook pros, it seems that thickness is indeed a piority over GPU power, as apple has a tendency to use medium range GPUs like the ATi7500, X1600 and 8600M GT. so I guess if a redesign is in order, it more of a "design a case to fit around a mid range GPU" rather than "Design a case to take a top end GPU"
     
  21. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    As they say, its Alienware that's doing this. Alienware is very openly targeted at the gamer market. Apple isn't...Apple is more towards consumer and design professionals. Of course, that can change in the future, but I don't expect Apple to suddenly move into the gamer market. Heck, it'll want to shake off the "Macs can't game" image first :D.