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    2010 Macbook Pro 13 Graphics

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Nick, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I just recieved my Macbook in on Friday, and today I did a few graphics card tests.

    OS: Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit.

    Idle Temp is 45-50C(CPU) and 57-61C(GPU).
    Hotest temp I've seen is in MW2 which is 74C(CPU) and 84C(GPU).

    Idle for 30 minutes Temps:
    [​IMG]

    Here's 3dmark06 using the Nvidia drivers(196) that come on the bootcamp DVD:

    [​IMG][/IMG]

    Here's 3dmark06 using the latest Nvidia drivers(260.89):

    [​IMG][/IMG]

    UPDATE 10/17/2010 3dmark06 with latest 260.99 drivers:

    [​IMG]

    Here's the temp's after 45 Minutes in MW2:

    [​IMG][/IMG]

    And now the frames per second(FPS). I played MW2 set to 1280x800 res, no AA, advanced video settings all set to normal. I played around 45 minutes.

    [​IMG][/IMG]

    Just Cause 2. At 1280x800, 2x AA & AF, everything else set to medium-high. The FPS were in the high teens, low 20's.


    [​IMG]

    All right per user request, here is the CoD 5 Temps. The game was set at 1280x800, normal texture's, no AA( when I had AA at 2X, I was getting lag). I was getting between 20 and 30 FPS. I played the first mission.

    [​IMG]

    UPDATE 10/27/2010 MW2 (with latest Nvidia 260.99 drivers) on the highest settings + 2X AA, I was getting in the high teen's low 20's FPS. A few times it dipped to 8 and 9 FPS, but if I turn AA off it doesn't. Here are the temps, I played the first mission:

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    Screen Shot:
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    Oh yes and the greatest benchmark of all time, WEI:

    [​IMG][/IMG]

    UPDATE 10/27/2010 WEI with latest 260.99 drivers(not much changed :))

    [​IMG]

    Call Of Duty: Black Ops:

    Temps after 1 hour:
    [​IMG]

    FPS after 30 minutes (Ok I had it at 1280x800, no AA, no shadows(I heard shutting it off stops some lag), and textures at normal.):
    [​IMG]

    If you have any special request for certain game's, benchmarks, etc, just let me know.

    A word on Windows 7 battery life:

    In Windows 7, screen dimmed to lowest, backlight off, bluetooth on, surfing the net I get a little over 4 hours.
     
  2. Naix

    Naix Notebook Consultant

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    why does running windows 7 make the laptop hotter than just using snow leopard?
     
  3. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Snow Leopard's uses less resources, doesn't use the video card or CPU as hard as Windows. I also think Snow Leopard is more optimised for the Macbook. Also the drivers Apple provides are not fully optimized for Windows and Macbook.
     
  4. cdcohen

    cdcohen Notebook Consultant

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    fo' sho.

    better performance than I expected.
     
  5. altecX

    altecX Notebook Deity

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    Actually its more that Apple provided terrible drivers for power management. I did a full driver update(intel chipset, GPU, wifi, bluetooth ect) at work on a 13in and gained about 15-20min in battery just from those. I wouldn't be surprised if I played with the power settings in Windows to make up for the drivers Apple provides that I could get 4:30/4:45.

    Lets not forget that the same laptops with a smaller battery and 9400m was rated 4hrs only a year or so ago under OS X. Apple how ever never changed really any drivers except the included GPU driver for Bootcamp, so all Windows knows is that the battery is now bigger.

    With proper driver support and a good power setting it could easily get 5hrs out of this. Unless Apple has a way of telling the 320m to downclock when not in use, that Windows doesn't have.
     
  6. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Easily this. When a simple driver update results in a 20 minute extension on battery life you know something is wrong with the driver. More likely than note Apple just did not bother writing their Windows drivers with efficiency in mind.
     
  7. jeffreybaks

    jeffreybaks Notebook Deity

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    sweet laptop!
     
  8. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    thanks for those numbers. Yeah I've had the 320m for awhile and I LOVE the card, even though it's integrated it feels beastly for a 13" laptop. I'm glad you posted MW2 settings as I feel Black Ops will run about the same so glad to know I can rock some native res and play at a decent 30fps. thanks again y0!
     
  9. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Agreed, but I suspect that Apple deliberately sabotages its own Windows drivers in order to degrade the experience of the MBP with any other OS than their own.
     
  10. J.R. Nelson

    J.R. Nelson Minister of Awesome

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    I don't think it's that they sabotage it so much as refuse to spend a dollar more than is necessary to achieve acceptable performance.
     
  11. doh123

    doh123 Without ME its just AWESO

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    They don't optimize the drivers for OSX that well... why would they do it for Windows?
     
  12. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Added Just Cause 2, FPS and temps.

    Oh and like I said before, if you have any games or bencharks you want me to run, just let me know.

    I have:
    CoD MW2
    CoD 5
    CoD 4
    CoD 2
    CoD 1
    Far Cry 2
    Just Cause 2
    Crysis
    Crusader :)D)
     
  13. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    curious about CoD5 also +repped
     
  14. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Thanks! I post CoD5 with in the next 24 hours.
     
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    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Added CoD 5.
     
  16. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Thanks was more concerned about fps on cod5..hmmm wondering now if 20 would be too low for me for multiplayer black ops. Might have to roll 360. Thanks again
     
  17. Naix

    Naix Notebook Consultant

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    theres new nvidia graphics driver for 320m. test to see the temp n benchmark
     
  18. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    I've installed the latest, I think 260.99 or something? Solid so far.
     
  19. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I already have the latest installed.

    EDIT: I was using 260.89 for the tests.
     
  20. Naix

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    which one performed better?
    less temp
     
  21. dbam987

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    cool info here! if you can, can you do benchmarking for StarCraft 2?
     
  22. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Just added new 3dmark06 results for the 260.99 drivers

    Unless there's a legal way for me to get a demo or something, I don't think I can.
     
  23. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Starcraft II is a pretty popular game, there's a few numbers for it around for the MBP. You want 2010 numbers? It runs well in OSX but MUCH MUCH better in bootcamp. ENough to where shaders high and most else on medium runs great and I just cap FPS at 30. In OSX you have to have mostly low/medium settings and it still doesn't feel.. "right" especially if you've played in Windows.
     
  24. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Idle for 30 minutes temps added to original post:

    [​IMG]
     
  25. AMDgamer

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    How is the system running win 7? Im thinking of same setup...AIR 13" with 2GB or 4GB RAM and the 27 cinema...
     
  26. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    What do you mean by "how is the system running win 7"? If you mean, "how did I get win 7 on it", I used a retail Windows 7 disk and bootcamp. If you mean, "how well does it run win 7", it runs great, it boots up in around 50 seconds, and games run great.

    If I was you, I'd get the 4GB option, as you can't upgrade it later.
     
  27. crazycanuk

    crazycanuk Notebook Virtuoso

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    AMD, if you grab an Air skip the 2 GB version, I have had 7 or 8 people drop by the shop wanting to upgrade them already ... and I have to keep telling them. YOU CAN NOT upgrade the RAM later on there are no sockets its soldered to the board.
     
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    Good info.
     
  29. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    UPDATE:

    The standard Nvidia 196. drivers that come on the bootcamp disk, make the video card run 5C-10C cooler when internet surfing. I just looked at GPU-Z and saw that the 260. driver wasn't letting the GPU shader clock, downclock. 260 makes the shader run at 950MHz all the time, now with the 196. drivers its down to 405MHz.
     
  30. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    Is it possible to overclock the 320m with msi afterburner or nvidia system tools?
     
  31. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I haven't tried, overclocking scares me :)
     
  32. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    haha ok thanks anyway :)
     
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    Arondel Notebook Evangelist

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    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Call Of Duty Black Ops, FPS and Temps added.
     
  37. aznguyen316

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    thanks man, what settings was Black Ops at? shadows, I assume AA off, stuff like that
     
  38. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    oops forgot to post that stuff :)

    Ok I had it at 1280x800, no AA, no shadows(I heard shutting it off stops some lag), and textures at normal.
     
  39. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    Well I caved and ordered a macbook pro 13 (damn you and your thread joker ;) )
    Can wait to run it through its paces later. If it can play COD BO multiplayer fluidly then I will be a happy man.
     
  40. Jitto

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    where do i find the link exactly (to your post)?
     
  41. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Its in my original post(first post of this thread), at the very bottom, labeled Call Of Duty: Black Ops.
     
  42. Jitto

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    ha. cheers thanks. cant believe i missed it
     
  43. dbam987

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    I installed SC2 on the Windows 7 side and definitely notice a huge boost in performance and quality. I can tune the graphics to the medium settings and for the most part the game runs smooth. It's only when there's some 300 units on the screen when things start slowing down quite a bit though. Other than that, it's awesome.
     
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    Sorry for digging up an old thread like this. I just have to ask: How did you get HWMonitor to show the temps for the 320m? All I get is voltage (0.90 V).

    Great thread btw, thanks :)
     
  45. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    The newest version of HWMonitor does that for some reason. I use the previous version 1.16: CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
     
  46. Ollollo

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    Great, thanks! Thats much better :)

    BTW what are your views on the later drivers? 26X appear to be up for download.

    Cheers