13" screen, an improvement, but

window shopping at apple store earlier this morning and i finally get to look at the new macbook (pro) color seem to be more saturated than the previous non-pro* model and behave similarly to the 15" beside it(saturation)

the big "however" here

vertical viewing angle is only 5-10degree better i would say, so went from a industrial standard for the worst of about 145/145 to maybe 155/155

an improvement definitely, but i would still rate macbookpro to have around 160/160, still a little bit better than 13", i didn't notice much has changed from previous generation model though....

on the other hand, 17" model blows away both of them in this regard.

if i am not wrong the color balance has shifted away from a more neutral approach that had once got mac reputable for to a more punchy, warm color that consumers might enjoy more (similar to a trend from high end DSLR and entry level DSLR)


there will soon be reviews popping up everywhere so i will wait for the reviewers to stamp the final fate in color gamut, but i am not convinced about the color gamut on 15/13 inches model, seems to be there are changes on saturation and contrast, but putting them besides 17" model gave me doubt.

 

I had in front of me today a pair of the new MBPs (one 13 and the other 15) for about an hour. Played with them, compared screens and I have to say the 13 is improved a lot compared to the uMB. The colours seemed to pop, more accuracy and range and horizontal viewing angle was very good.

But where it kind of falls apart is in the vertical plane. Tilt the screen up or down a bit and color chaos occurs. The 15 held up better in this respect, but overall the new 13 screen is very close to what's on the 15s. I do agree with you that the 17 puts them both to shame.

FWIW, the 13 I looked at has a screen model 9CBD.

 

horizontal viewable angle has never been an issue with previous macbook/unibody macbook imo, they handle that fairly well, but i have yet to see a monitor that handle that poorly

the color(on previous) is a little washout though compare to the new one, as for accuracy i will reserve that statement until proven, they seem too heavy and punchy to my eyes, reminds me of the canon red and some landscape green, i am uncertain if that's a sign to increase color gamut.

vertical viewable angle on 13 imo still behind 15's, and to me they are still noticeable, i suppose one of the reason for the perceived closeness toward 15" is the behavior in color reproduction and the additional warmness that harness some of the bleach in color.

panel on 15 had also changed, to the similar of 13 but retain the same viewable angle of the old ones

ONLY, ONLY if apple has the same 13" panel on their white macbook... i didnt check it out because i believe they still have the old ones on demo anyways, but if they suddenly enlighted and realized the possibility of that, it will be the best notebook at 1200 range for sure.

i still prefer MBA's screen over the new macbook(p), is this just my bias from disappointment?

 

I agree with you with the old 13" umb vertical viewing angles and how they are bad. but what i don't understand is why you would state the above. when i was at best buy i compared the mba with the old umb and they were equal in having horrible viewing angles....to put it as strongly as i can...the mba viewing angle was horrible and just as bad as the umb 13". i spent 30 minutes with them side by side at best buy. i kept rising my body up and down without tilting my head...looking very odd in the store. i also tried diff. adjusting the mba diff. angles and moving my head diff. angles. there was absolutley no room to move vertically on the mba without the colors changing significantly.

 

i find the opposite, has the new mba crippled? i had only checked the previous mba(not the one with 9400m)

 

quite possibly. i only checked out 1 or 2 reviews of the mba and none of them ever mentioned bad viewing angles. And I heard nothing but good things about the mba screen. This added to my shock and surprise when I found the vieing angle equal to the macbook 13" unibody. I didn't check the screen vender on the mba because i wasn't interested in buying one, only was interested in the screen of the macbook 13" unibody in which I used the mba as one of the compare models. This was about 3-4 weeks ago.

This kinda worries me...if they did change the lcd vendor of the mba, what if they do the same when i get around to buying a mbp 13"? Logically, it would make since that after a product has been released a few months and all the reviews have taken place a company(any company not just apple...since it's all about making money) could then change the parts without changing the specs.

 

1 or 2 reviews?

i have only seen 1, ONE review site that mention about vertical viewing angle, one of the reason why the praise of air's screen was because macbooks' are way too bad.

consider air has been revision from having x3100(or 4500?) to 9400m, they might have made more changes, i don't know. but apple has always have a few different versions of screen panel per model so i am not surprised if anything happens.

but about macbook(pro) 13" model, i don't see the point of such excitement given the changes myself, to me it is changing from the worst to bad only

 

actually,I don't care about vertical angels,so it is worst to quite good