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    13" HD3000 and Roam TW

    Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by no1up, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. no1up

    no1up Notebook Evangelist

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    anyone know if this game will run on this machine? Also, why doesn't the mac app store show what kind of hardware a game needs. I thinks that sux.
     
  2. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you mean rome total war? if so yes it will run, in the highest settings even, its a 2006 game after all. And yes i have played it with mods, like EB, SPQR and some others
     
  3. leopardhunter7

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    I used to play that on my C2D based MBP 13... and it ran fine. I even played, although a few times only, Diablo II and WOW on that machine. And it worked fine. Given that the present generation has similar integrated graphic solution (while some will claim that benchmarks show the intel hd 3000 to be inferior to the earlier Nvidia chips, for all intents and purposes, and to the naked eye, they produce the same end results), but much more powerful CPU and RAM, the 2011 MBP 13 should be able run those games without a glitch.
     
  4. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    According to most benchmarks I've seen, the HD3000 is superior (albeit only slightly) in games run on OS X. Using Windows through Boot Camp, the opposite is true; NVIDIA-equipped Core2 Duo Macs are faster, often by a noticeable margin.

    BTW, how does anyone make the mistake of calling Rome Roam? Even if English isn't your first language... :confused:
     
  5. fattail95

    fattail95 Notebook Evangelist

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    Please read the posts in this thread:

    Intel Graphics HD3000 vs NVIDIA GeForce 320M/330M GT - Real Benchmarks and Comparison - MacRumors Forums

    The 320m coupled with the Core2 Duo is better than the i3/i5 coupled with the HD3000. Albeit a small difference considering both cards are pretty low end, but the difference is still there. This is predominately because games are more optimised for nVidia cards, rather than those for the HD3000. Even considering this, though, the 320m is still better in terms of raw power.
     
  6. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Indeed I actually took personal offense on that :p

    Has anyone tried to run m2tw?

    I know etw and s2tw are playable on medium and low settings, havent tried ntw yet
     
  7. leopardhunter7

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    How? Well... I guess by typing first and thinking later :p
     
  8. leopardhunter7

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    That's the kind of benchmark oriented discussion I was referring to. Yes, going by the benchmarks the HD3000 is ever so slightly inferior to the previous gen Nvidia chipsets. But all numeric data aside, all I care about is when I run a game on the machine, whether it is playable or not, and if it is playable how good it looks. I just ran COD4 on two MBP 13s my friend has... one is a late 2011 i5 edition, the other one is a C2D+Nvidia version, both running 500 gb 5400rpm hdd and 4 gigs of DDR3 RAM. With exactly same settings (medium, no AAl) there was ABSOLUTELY NO noticeable difference in the game-play. At times though it was the C2D+Nvidia edition that stuttered during WOW. I am not sure why, but I'm guessing it was the inferior CPU...
     
  9. no1up

    no1up Notebook Evangelist

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    LOL sadly it is my first language.... I was using an old android phone with a very small screen, even with that, I have no excuse.

    I am, how do you say, Ah yes! Retarded.... (in Antonio Banderas voice)
     
  10. no1up

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    So ETW is playable? What about Napoleon TW?
     
  11. Karamazovmm

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    etw is playable, ntw as I said earlier I dont know

    I never played ntw that much, I liked much more the expanded map of etw than the again europe and parts of middle east and north africa. I think I only logged 1h in it, however etw... its over 200h

    meanwhile RTW, is logging over 600h... and this is the steam one that I bought to stop my annoyance of using a crack since my cds broke a long time ago.
     
  12. no1up

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    does the mac version of RTW have improved A.I?
     
  13. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    probably not, never played it