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    M15x + ATI 5870 (MOD)

    Discussion in 'Alienware M15x' started by ethanh8791, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. Mandrake

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    It requires the vbios as you said. Then it will automatically appear.
     
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    Know where a person might run up on an appropriate MSI vbios for a 5870 Mobility?
     
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    You know everything, Mandrake. Fair warning, and thanks.
     
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    Installed my 5870 and everything is great! My benchmark scores on 1920x1080...
    3DMark Vantage: 0? It said 0 for some reason idk? But:
    GPU Score: 4712
    CPU Score: 10578

    3DMark06 Score: 10234
     
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    As I'm playing and having fun all the lights in my system go out. I did a power drain and they all come back. I hope this is not the norm for this box.
     
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    I set the max clocks nice and high that way you can fry them if you want to. ;)
     
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    LOL. You were nice and civilized about it. Haven't flashed yet, but had a look in RBE. Do you have PowerPlay working too?
     
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    You need to re-run 3dMark06 and Vantage at the standard 1280x1024 (the "Performance" setting) to give people here a better frame of reference. With a 720, you can expect a Vantage GPU score of around 7700, give or take a little.
     
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    i cannot get gpu-z to read and save the default bios...

    @revelator yes he has powerplay working too on that bios... power play settings are...

    700 1000 1.1v
    500 1000 1.1v
    200 500 0.95v
    400 1000 0.95v
     
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    Saw it was setup that way in the vbios, but didn't know if it would actually work with the laptop drivers.

    Wizard, if you have one of Babyhemi's Clevo 5870, the latest official vbios can be downloaded straight from Clevo at ftp://usftp.clevo.com.tw/ALLBIOS/W8xxCU/. You have to use Chrome or Firefox to get in. With IE8, it will ask for a username/PW. Once in, click on "ATI_018.zip", and it downloads automatically.

    You can also get it from Rapidshare D/L: RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting.
     
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    Man wanna get off early from work just to try this,lol.
     
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    hey revelator do u have the default bios because i cannot read it off the card..

    for flashing the card... is it just the standard procedure with ati flash on usb stick and autoexec.txt with the command which mandrake gave... or there is something else for these cards...

    EDIt: can i use ati winflash to flash the bios for this card...
     
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    Use atiflash to save the old bios. "atiflash -s 0 vbios.rom"

    Yes, powerplay works.
     
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    How cool is that. You've moved us further along with this card in one day than we've managed on our own in two months.
     
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    lol, yeah but it's barely tested. If you guys flash it now you'll be testing with me.
     
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    Amended previous post to give sources for Clevo vbios.

    You can use Winflash, but atiflash from a dos-bootable USB stick is safer.

    The atiflash command line that Mandrake referred to is for saving your existing vbios to a file. To flash the new bios, use "atiflash -p 0 HD5870.rom".
     
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    UPDATE:
    Ran everything at 1280x1024 and here's what I got from my benchmarks:

    3DMark Vantage : 8606

    3DMark06 : 12386
     
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    Looks very good on both benchmarks.
     
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    is there a 64bit version of atiflash?
     
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    atiflash is used with DOS... it will not work on 64bit windows...
     
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    I would only do it in dos if I were you. Less risk.
     
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    At least the company is good. My problem is I have no backup card. Unlikely to need one, but it gives me some pause because I need this machine functional for the next few days. Probably overcome that reservation before the night is over. LOL.
     
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    ok thanks guys.
     
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    Atiflash says adapter not found..

    EDIT: think need to download the latest version
     
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    I have never run into that. Try "atiflash -i". This should report information about the currently installed vbios.

    Edit: Might be "atiflash -i 0. These "0's" are all zeros, not letter o's.
     
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    Have succesfully flashed the gpu...
     
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    dude awesome wiz. probably need your help to get me going, hahah
     
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    Wow !!!! +Rep to the Wizard. +Rep for Mandrake for making it possible. Report back when you've had a few minutes to play.
     
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    After restarting there was some driver glitch artifacting restarted and it all went away... and powerplay works... Need to edit for more powerplay optons though... have the overdrive option but can't use it now its all greyed any suggestions.... idling at 56...

    @ inap definetely bro...

    Here are the steps...

    1. Download the HP USB Key Utility: HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool - v2.1.8 Download - EXTREME Overclocking

    2. Download the Windows 98 system files: Windows 98 System Files Download - EXTREME Overclocking

    3. Download the bios .rom files RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting

    5. Download Atiflash from techPowerUp! :: Download ATIFlash 3.79

    4. Install the HP USB Key Utility

    5. Launch the HP USB Key Utility and do the following:
    - Insert your USB thumb drive.
    - Select File system as "FAT32"
    - Select Format Option as "Create a DOS bootable Disk..."
    - Checkmark the box that says, "Quick Format"
    - Locate the directory you extracted the Win98 files.
    - Format the USB key using the the Win98 files.

    6. Copy bios file from step #3 to the USB key and copy the extracted files from atiflash as well

    7. Restart.

    8. F12

    9. Boot from USB

    10. At command prompt... type in "atiflash -s 0 vbios.rom

    11. then type in "atiflash -p -fs 0 hd5870.rom

    12. This is the most important step... +rep to mandrake...
     
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    Helluva nice guide, Wizard.
     
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    cannot install the ccc from 10.5 drivers...
     
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    wow thanks wiz, will gave this a go after i get off from work.
     
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    Edit the InstallManager.cfg file and change WorkaroundInstall=false to =true.
     
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    uninstalled the drivers and CCC... Tried to install it through the setup file... didn't work... Uninstalled everything again and installed 10.5 drivers(device manager) and CCC from Dell drivers package... Don't have overplay now...

    EDIT: just saw ur post mandrake.. will do that... where is that file located...
     
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    It's in the Config sub-directory where your ATI driver is installed.
     
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    now do install just ccc from apps folder or the entire setup... did the complete install... i do not get overdrive...
     
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    The new vbios would not flash. Got an error -

    Old SSID: 1002
    New SSID: 1C02
    SSID mismatched

    Then dropped me back to DOS prompt.
     
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    That's why you have to add the "-fs" switch. It will change your ssid.
     
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    Can I get back to the old SSID by the same method?
     
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    Yes

    /10char
     
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    Thanks. Back to the mines.
     
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    Hey mandrake ... i had the overdrive on CCC before but don't have it now... Had it with 10.3 preview drivers and ccc from dell... but now with 10.5 drivers and ccc don't have that option...
     
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    Making progress, a little at a time.

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    Hey, PowerPlay downclocked to 200/500 when I told it to max battery life when plugged in. No other choices and not very useful per se, but at least it's communicating with the vbios.
     
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    I tried 10.4 and 10.5 and didn't have to do anything special to make it work.

    as in you want it to go lower? I know the AW 5870 has settings of 150|[email protected] I believe.
     
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    No, just wondered how it might use some of the other modes/states included in the vbios. This seems perfectly stable so far. Gonna run a couple of benchs just to give it exercise, but lots to play with.

    Is it going to require registry changes to get Overdrive working?

    Edit: Overdrive is working!! Just had to click the right button. What a doofus.
     
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    Whoa. Applied a very mild o/c of 750/1050 using Overdrive and ran 3dMark06. All went well during the test, but after finishing Deep Freeze and returning to the desktop, the screen immediately went nuts, jumping and jittering up and down and around with some distortion and color bleeding. Thought it was going to crash any moment, but it didn't before I shut it down. After rebooting, all returned to normal. Strange behavior. No overheating - max GPU temps in low 70C's, CPU temps about the same.
     
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    Try changing the voltage back to 1.15 to see if it does it again.

    I want to test the affect of OC'ing by flashing the new clocks vs using overdrive....maybe tomorrow.
     
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    Will check with you tomorrow. Fact is, AMD Clock Tool is easier and more flexible than OD, but it's nice to have it available. Thanks for all the help.
     
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