970m M15x!

Yes I did read that but a lot has changed since then. New drivers, new version of Windows. I want to know what the state of things is now but I suppose that thread does partly answer my own question....but i knew that!

 

I am running Win 7 anyway, so it's an old version.

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Well, I got the throttling stopped on my 970M. I kept pushing the 920XM until it throttled due to heat. I can run it at 27x on all cores, but it gets hot and throttles. Running it at 25x on all cores for gaming.

I bought The Witcher 3 off steam. Taking a while to download so I am heading to bed.

This is my best 3DM11 run at 8749
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10405761

 

Just did a quick check on The Witcher 3. I put graphics at max including hair, no capping. Running the 920XM at 25x on all cores so it doesn't throttle. I am getting around 27 FPS in a room. I only messed with it for a few minutes. I don't have a report for what the CPU was doing yet.

The M15x with 970M and 920XM at 25x as above never goes below 70 FPS in MWO at 1080p with graphics settings set to Very High, which is the max.

 

I wouldn't expect witcher 3 to run well on max at all. I'd also be aiming for 60 fps. If you do another test on Witcher 3 try a mixture of medium and high with FXAA etc and see if you can stay above 60fps. That is basically what I'm interested in.

 

Ok, I will give it a shot at lunch. So far I find the controls to be super funky and I walked off the balcony and died. My gaming friends don't call me "Wrongway" for nothing!

 

Ok, @fatboyslimerr you aren't going to like this. I am getting about 37 - 45 fps with everything on Low and no AA.

 

Pretty much as I expected. Thanks deadsmiley

 

@deadsmiley what do CPU and GPU usage look like when you try to play on low settings? Can you try to compare that to putting everything on medium? If GPU usage doesn't change discernibly then that is one hell of a CPU bottleneck.

 

Sure. I am out of town at the moment so it will be a couple of days.

 

Hey sorry to bug but @deadsmiley or @EepoSaurus do you guys have svl7's vbios flashed and/or done the pin mod?

 

Ok, with some more testing it appears that the 970M is the bottleneck?

Notice in these screen caps that the GPU load is 99% The line 3rd line down is CPU thread load, all of which are less than 50% when running on LOW graphics settings.


Here it is on MEDIUM with some GPU overclocking. Still the CPU is not loaded up terribly. (I didn't have Throttle stop running when running on LOW)




Soooo... looks like to me that the 970M is the bottleneck in The Witcher 3?

 

I am running svl7's VBIOS. I have not done the pin mod. I can run up to 25x on the 920XM on all cores. It will sometimes thermal throttle at that speed. Adding voltage to my setup will just make it run hotter.

 

He means the centre pin mod to the PSU. Without this the m15x is hardwired to cap out at 150W draw. I've manage to load 190W using my 210W PSU with centre pin removed.

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Yea, sorry should have been more specific.

Reinstalled drivers by cleaning with DDU and by modifing nv_dispi.inf rather than nvdmi.inf got a whole lot better but now found out that GPU is stuck in P1 and will not go to P0 state
26x 26x 25x 25x runs nice and cool.

 

I have the L-adapter with the center pin removed. Hower, I am using the stock 150w power brick. I have the 210w brick as well.

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The 210W isn't sufficient if you intend to voltmod Then you need to double up PSU's

Even with my 920xm on stock voltage and the 680M overvolted the 210W gives out at around 240W usage.

The best option if you don't double up (difficult mod) is the 240W slim for max power delivery. Unfortunately it doesn't last long vs the 210W.

 

210W PSU is made by Delta which are known to be higher quality than others. I'd rather be exceeding limits on that than a crappy 240W one

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I am using the 150w psu. I haven't plugged in my killawatt while testing this game.

EDIT: I do own a 210w PSU and L-adapter.

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Ran The Witcher 3 with the CPU at 25x across all cores. GPU overclocked 135MHz and I saw 160w at the wall with my Killawatt.

 

I agree, the original power supply (150w) is inadequate when you have 920XM + gtx970m. In some games reaches the limit and is deactivated, must reset the power supply.
Now I have a 240w Delta PA-9E, I have done some testing and I have not been able to take it down.
In the bios recognizes the power, even it makes the intention to charge the battery, but is dead and can not tell if it really load.

Regards.

 

Really. Wow either the 970M is either incredibly efficient compared with the 680M or the CPU just isn't being pushed hard.

Playing Wolfenstein game last year I kept tripping the 210W adaptor at around 240W lol. The CPU was on stock voltage but was pushed really hard by that game! Often over 80 -90% usage on high graphics settings. The 680M I also had heavily OCed which didn't help!

 

I would also like to add that I output to an HDTV via the Displayport using a Displayport to HDMI cable I got from Amazon. Sound works as well. Pretty nifty.

 

all gtx970m card working on the m15x? or need a specified card

according a local store, the gtx970m have 2 version, one with g-sync and other without g-sync. this is true? what version is needed? w/out g-sync i guess

greetings

 

Dell and Clevo should work. Not sure about MSI. No point in getting g-sync unless it is the same price. Your M15x is not g-sync capable but the card will still work. (Someone correct me if I am wrong.)

 

Do not get a G-sync card, it will NOT work in your system. Any of the 970M will work. I have a 6GB Clevo 970M in my M15x and it works great. You will need the clevo heatsink screws and to remove the old dell heatsink screws for it to work. No need to trim down the screw posts on the heatsink.

 

I just buyed GTX 965M to change old Radeon 5850 to better one.

But:
When installing to place, it wont post windows/anyting. Just plinks the screen and thats all. Windows in bacround will start, but not picture. Is there anything to do?

GTX 965M TI 4GB is MXM3.0a model and old 5850 are MXM3.0b. Is this making the problem?



Specs:
M15x R2
I7 840QM
Bios A09
Power supply 150W
Manufactured 2011

 

No. You probably have a driver problem or a damaged card. If it POST clears and you can hear windows sound, that means it cannot access graphic resource for hardware acceleration. Graphics driver faulty or graphics chipset faulty

 

Nothing appears to screen. I try use external VGA and HDMI connected screens, but no luck. I will work with the Radeon normally.

So I might pay GTX for nothing?

 

Your card is broken, likely either came defective or you damaged the core when you installed the card (too tight screws, stress core and crack internal die)

 

I think, it was already broken. Because I am changed now few times between Radeon and GTX. And Radeon works rock solid with same screw tightness etc.

 

you cannot measure with screw tightness. You must measure x-bracket length of screw post....you probably keep killing the nvidia cards because you use too short of a bracket.

 

The card is not dead. This particular GTX 965M need some special operation to make it work. I am now running with it.

Shortly:
Did not post anything to screen (any).
I looked over remote desktop
In device manager windows didn`t recognize it (show as generig VGA etc)
Installed inf-modded drivers
Restart
Windows login screen pop-up!
Tested with 3D mark demo for temps ect.

So don´t give up, if there are little bumps in the road.

Edit: Few hour game testing and machine are rock solid.

Is there any solution for posting screen befoce driver installation?
Just wondering, if I have to reinstall windows. I have to change radeon back?

 

Well, here is to add another successful Clevo GTX 970M install on the M15x! It was a direct bolt on and just had to use the modified inf file, along with Svl7's vBios. Using the Slim 240W adapter and the center pin mod, no throttle issues. The HDMI/DP port works great with audio too. Will be testing temps and CPU multipliers soon.