m11x throttling issues

people are starting to notice throttling issues and its being discussed over separate threads so i thought it would be a good idea to start a thread just for throttling discussion. so from now on anything to do with throttling whether it be cpu or gpu goes here

 

disable powermizer and your gpu will stop throttling.

 

There are a couple of apps to do it. You can also modify your own registry entries as well... here is one app

PowerMizer Manager | Some More Bytes

Later,

StevenX

 

I think we start to suspect throttling can be involved with the R2. But as far as I know, no one has taken the time to study and confirm it, right?

I would recommend people to have a look at:

M15x Throttling Issues

Well, after reading that thread, I'm afraid that throttling issues may very well be apparent on the R2. It is easy to check though, just use the programs linked to that thread. Someone should be able to confirm this rather quick.

The reports in the WoW performance thread here with poor and unstable FPS, even periodic dips, matches very well with reports in that thread for throttling with the M15x. WoW is apparently very taxing on the CPU.

I am not surprised there is no problem with the R1. It uses C2D, and has very low temps when gaming. The whole throttling issue is related to i5/i7 CPUs and mostly Nvidia cards. Hmm, this is going to be interesting.

 

im so happy people actually followed my idea i read in another thread disabling powermizer can cause heat issues and should only be used as a temporary fix

 

Its not too bad on the M11x actually since the nvidia gpu is not on normally due to the use of the Intel gpu. and when it is on due to gaming and like, you surely do not want it to throttle anyway! so there is no harm done disabling powermizer in that sense.

 

isnt the same using adptative or maximum performance over control painel??

 

It could be, I haven't used those before to be honest.

 

Ok, I have an R2 and am not sure if this is what you guys call GPU "throttling issues". According to EVGA precision, my Core clock MHZ is at 135 mhz (goes up to 405mhz when playing MW2). Now, my GPU is overclocked from 450 to 600, Shader at 1200, Memory clock at 925. Both Shader and Memory clock run much lower as well when playing games. In addition, my CPU is overclocked at 166 mhz with TB enabled. No BSOD whatsoever. I haven't tried using the Powermizer yet.

EDIT: Powermizer fixed the throttling issues for me. I GOT A MASSIVE INCREASE of FPS in MW2 (13-16). I am so damn happy. I played MW2 for an hour and R2 ran very stable. However, CPU temp max was 71 and GPU was 73. Here's my settings: CPU @166mhz with TB enabled, GPU clock at 550mhz, Shader at 1200 and memory clock at 925mhz. NO CRASHES, NO BSOD!!! I love this machine.

 

Damn I can't get my machine to get those numbers even with a cooler. Swapsies?

 

After you exit a game, does the 335 downclock to 2D clocks since you disabled powermizer? If not, you will see a battery hit. Just curious...

 

Hahaha, no thanks. Yeah, I'm one of the few that got a machine that does not BSOD when overclock to 166. I am very happy with my R2 and glad I returned my R1 and bought this.

 

On AC, the GPU stays at 550 mhz after I exit a game. However, it goes back to default 135mhz idle (405 when playing a game) on battery mode.

 

In the thread I linked to, they use tools to monitor the GPU and CPU frequency. They have screenshots there. As they say, you don't want to see fluctuations in frequency when you are playing - that means you are throttled.

 

Same here mate. I am also one of the lucky one like you who can oc to 166 and get no bsod happy owner too. But I hardly kept anything oc'ed at this point. Only did for test. As stock clock runs most of my stuffs fine so far except splinter cell conviction doesn't seems to run well even when oc'ed

 

Haha. It's alright, I've been running @ 166 with turbo all evening without a single hick up ie no BSOD or crashes. Just installed new intel HD and physyx drivers and so far (touch wood) it all seems to be A OK. I love this little machine

 

disabled powermizer and going to give crysis a play!

Edit: it seems to be getting an average of 3-4 FPS higher! nice!

 

Hoe are you disabling it? I cant use NVPMManagerInstaller, it doesnt work.

 

Told Ya

 

thanks

the m11x does seem to get nice and warm maxing out at 77 C

 

haha 77 mate thats nothing. my old dv3021tx used to max 110 while playing tf2 at low settings xD its idle temp sat at a toasty 50 and when i watched movies it was around 80

 

That temp is great, that's stock without a cooler?

 

are you talking about my hp temp xD??

 

Yep - you killed PowerMizer. Be aware, this will result in higher idle thermals while on AC and increased fan cycles. As long as you are ok with that... personally, I would never kill powermizer as it is your friend - especially in the 11x. That chassis is small enough and with only 1 fan, I want PowerMizer doing its thing when not under load.

 

My R2 idles at 46-48c (both cpu and gpu) while overclocked and max at 73-74v while playing games. Not bad IMO.

 

The laptop seems to stay alot cooler if you allow the fan on the bottom in the back to suck up more air. For example if you are holding the laptop in the air Crysis runs about 63 degrees for me, but if I set it down on a table it will go up to the 70s. If you get one of those cooling trays that has a dip in it that allows air to go under the laptop it would prob help.

 

I recommend this
Cooler Master - Ultimate provider of Computer Chassis | Cooler | Power Supply

I have one of this and it match very well with M11x. The size is just about right almost like tailor made. And this one is the fan edition. While the fan is removable you can actually move the fan the the best location that you think that will give the best cooling to your M11x. its very compact too. so suits the intention of M11x. you can carry it around and travel with you if need/wish to. Tested you can slot the M11x when carry out without have to worry that it will scratch/damage your baby

 

I use this as well, i recommend it to anyone who needs a cooling pad.

If u have an AC room its even more perfect. The material on this thing gets cold really fast and you cant forget about the fans where you can put them anywhere underneath your m11x. ( Example: i put one fan underneath the m11x intake fan)

 

Where are you guys disabling the Powermizer from? When I open the Nvida panel I don't see that as an option in the tree on the left.

 

Link was provided in thread earlier.

 

I also found this useful. My GPU would sometimes get set at 405MHZ and other times run just fine.

 

Going to gravedig and bump up this thread, because from some testing on my i7 m11x, there appears to be cpu throttling issues. Powermizer easily fixes the gpu throttling, but the only program for cpu is ThrottleStop, and it seems like it doesn't support the core i series?

I posted this in another thread, but found this thread also so here goes:

"So uh, I can only get a stable overclock at around 154, and I don't even know if that's stable because I haven't tested it yet.

But my main concern is that core speed without anything ocing goes up to x16 multiplier at ~2.1ghz, but when I go into Assassin's Creed 2 it throttles down to 1.8 and even 1.4ghz sometimes!

This seems to also cause stuttering in games. Is there anyway to ensure my speeds stay at 2.2ghz?

I'm running in high performance profile and have my cpu min and max at 100% in Windows 7 power options."

Anyone know of a fix?

 

Why would you assume that throttlestop doesnt support the core I series? Reach out to Unclewebb and see what he says. Personally I use throttlestop on my R1 core2 duo because I think (and this maybe just me) there is a direct correlation with BFBC2 dips in FPS and the CPU being pegged at 100 percent. There is also a cool utility in it that keeps the cpu from telling the gpu to slow down as well. (different than powermizer) I can tell you that my cpu gets around 61-64c at max gaming but my GPU got hotter than ever before at 68c while playing sniper ghost warrior (heavy shader and post processing).

I hope you get everything figured out. Bw, StevenX

 

It's my understanding that throttlestop only works on the C2D Extreme cpus. When I was testing it I wasn't able to get it to do anything on my i7.

 

What slickie88 said, I already tested it and it didn't seem to work. Maybe the ULV processors don't get recognized or don't function the same.

Steven, what program is this? D: Sounds interesting.

I can use ThrottleStop to keep the multiplier at 5 6 7 8 and 9, but not anything past 10.

 

@Mix - BD Prochot - I was trying to research more about this so please take it with a grain of salt... It has something to do with the communication between gpu and cpu. It has to do with communication between cpu and gpu, in reference to utiliziation. It may slow one down if the other is being under-utilized. UncleWebb can explain much better. Best Wishes, StevenX

 

Hmm, so you're saying that if I enable BD Prochot, the gpu should stop telling the cpu to throttle? I may send a PM to UncleWebb and ask him if he can make ThrottleStop compatible with the m11x i cores, but thanks for that interesting info

 

Is there any update on the cpu throttle issue??? for the i7?

sounds VERY likely that it could be an issue. if anyone has news please let me know. thanks

did a search and found this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=227689

dont know if it will work yet.

 

I just realized I have no idea what to check or uncheck to stop the cpu from throttling anyone give me a hint? the new version 2.77 does find the i7 cpu though