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    Want to upgrade from R1 - help re CPUs please?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by clemenzina, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. clemenzina

    clemenzina Notebook Consultant

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    I think that the SU7300 CPU in my R1 is not up to the basic video editing I do - when, for example, I'm trimming/converting/uploading with one program whilst another program is cropping another clip in the background, if I'm waiting for both jobs to finish I can't easily browse or do anything else, the system is on a go-slow. So I'm looking for a higher-spec model but am confused by the different CPUs in R2s and R3s.

    These are some of CPUs I've come across, I've put their benchmark numbers beside them but are benchmark numbers really meaningful?

    2467M = 2384 ( @ 1.6ghz)

    640UM = 1593 ( @ 1.2ghz)

    2617M = 2936 ( @ 1.5ghz)

    2357M = 1660 ( @ 1.3ghz)

    I3, i5 and i7 seem to mean very little on their own, you have to check the processor number, and cache and stuff :-(

    I don't think that the R1's graphics is a problem, by the way, but the 2gb version is standard-ish in R2s and R3s, isn't it? Anyway I'm not too bothered about that unless you say I should be.

    I'm looking at used and refurbs because I really can't afford to be doing this but am so frustrated. Any words of wisdom please? I think you can tell I'm addled.

    Oh, and if you wonder why I don't look at other brands - I'm in love with the M11x's keyboard, it means a lot to me. Can't abide chiklets and think clicky keys.
     
  2. Nightrider

    Nightrider Notebook Geek

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    All M11X Cpu are builted in the motherboard and there is no way to upgrade it. Unless maybe you change de whole motherboard. I have no idea if you can convert a M11X R1 to a R3. I think few output port are different anyway (IE Display port , usb3 ) Some people prefer R1 because he heat less and battery life is better!

    Good luck Clemenzina
     
  3. clemenzina

    clemenzina Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the thoughts, Nightrider, but I've mis-led you - I want an R2 or R3 M11x, not to upgrade my R1 :)

    Battery life is unimportant, I use it on the mains.
     
  4. GNandGS

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    Its a tall order if dealing with HD content. Best to go biiiig or something easily over clockable.

    Im curious if the Throttlestop+R2 (+OC?) will net better results for a long edit job over an R3 with better processor but active throttling.

    Not sure if TS is avail for R3 or what the OC is for R3

    To be clear, I do think for raw burts of performance overall, its R3. The question is for a long duration/high CPU task.

    Edit: are the number of cores etc in play? This might matter more than cycles. Check your apps to see what hardware works best. Can any GPU power be leveraged?
     
  5. clemenzina

    clemenzina Notebook Consultant

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    I'm recording low-def streams from wildlife webcams. At the moment it's via screen capture (so I suppose that can't be low-def because of the screen's own resolution :confused: ) but in the spring will be recording the actual stream with VLC (different webcam, it "transmits" via mms).

    At the moment I've got 2 laptops on the job - one recording 24/7, and the other editing/uploading. Every now and then I stop and restart the recording so I can transfer it over to the editing laptop and get to work. Events can move fast and I need to be able to start clipping one recording while the previous one is being converted etc after clipping. There are times I don't know whether I'm on my a*se or my elbow ;)

    You've lost me except to say I've got the M11x set to use nVidia graphics all the time, AFAIK. I've overclocked the CPU in the bios.

    I would like to be warned if there are pitfalls with any of the CPUs in the R2s and R3s.
     
  6. GNandGS

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    oh yeah, I remember now. You are doing some things I have no idea how to help with. :p

    The GPU question was only that. Not suggesting you are missing out - maybe some gooroo will chime in on what can be done with GPU in your case (if anything).

    Are you monitoring CPU use? What does it look like while working?
     
  7. clemenzina

    clemenzina Notebook Consultant

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    No I'm not monitoring G, how best to do that?

    I'm off to sleep now so you've got a long time to think of a brilliant answer ;)
     
  8. deadboy90

    deadboy90 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok the CPU's in the m11x series are ULV, ultra low voltage processors, meaning that they are dual core. For video editing I would suggest the i7 r3 model but if you can pony up the cash I would get an m14x with the quad core i7, much better for video editing. Barring that you can get a good gaming quad core Sager for a couple hundred less than the m14x.
     
  9. clemenzina

    clemenzina Notebook Consultant

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    M14x is too big and heavy, I work on my lap. I was thinking of Sager last night but it's not a brand I've seen around (in the UK). I bet they don't do small but I'll have a Google.

    Thanks for the tips :)
     
  10. GNandGS

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    if suspect that not enough CPU just open task manager and minimize while you work.

    I think deadboy90 has the direction I was thinking. Im not familiar with options for R2 & R3 for cores OR if that is what you need. No question though that the i5 or i7 will do better for you.
     
  11. clemenzina

    clemenzina Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks, G, I'll do that re Task Mgr.

    Amazon.UK has someone offering a few Sagers but they've never sold any and the smallest (15.6") is £1000 nearly. Another site looks like an official supplier and they only do 17" and 18" and they weigh 5.5kg :eek: