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    Switchable graphics with latest drivers on r1?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by amd098, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. amd098

    amd098 Notebook Consultant

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    just saw this post on dell's site, has anyone ever tried this?

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  2. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I will try this out, this would be a nice suprise :)
     
  3. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I tried this and it seems to work. I will play some MW3 and see how it goes.
     
  4. el_pitaya

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    I think Im gonna try this, just ending some finals @school

    let us know if this work flynnaz
     
  5. Vallejo

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    On step 4 it says to download the 285.65 driver from the page but there's no 285.65 driver. Didnt he got confused and instead of typing 285.62 he typed 285.65?
    I would want to try :)
     
  6. el_pitaya

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    yeah I noticed that too.. I guess its .62 drivers :)
     
  7. ejohnson

    ejohnson Is that lemon zest?

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    You know, someone on this board posted along time back about this and we all played him off as being crazy.
     
  8. Ambroos

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    God damnit, if that works it means I'll have to go BIOS patching again :p

    Any chance that could also enable us to update the Intel driver?
     
  9. ak120691

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    where is 285.65? I only find 285.62. typo?
     
  10. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    The lastest non-beta is 285.62. Everything works great, I played MW3 for a hour, no issues. I did everything, at the very end I rebooted one more time, that seemed to make the switchable part work correctly. I could not be happyer. I wonder if I could update the Intel driver? I guess why would I :)

    285.62 win7 64bit found here: http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/39066
     
  11. some guy

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    sweet!

    thanks for reporting back & for the link too. i was worried about trying with 285.62.
     
  12. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I was going to try the beta, but I did not want to push my luck :)
     
  13. ak120691

    ak120691 Notebook Enthusiast

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    mine will not switch after a certain period of time. When I first reboot my comp I have a window of maybe 10 seconds to switch or else it will get locked into the Save Power mode.

    Why is this?
     
  14. GNandGS

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    I think this is highly possible because the modded optimus drivers are already avail (but issues for most). Give it a whirl!

    Edit: some are whirling!
     
  15. Ogile

    Ogile Newbie

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    After installing new drivers that way my laptop won't hibernate anymore.
    When I press power button or choose hibernate option in Start menu laptop screen just goes black but power don't goes off. If I move mouse laptop comes back to life. Seems like on hibernate triggering it only turns off display.

    Moreover, I've rolled back to official Dell A02 driver (via safe mode), but this hibernate issue is still there.

    :mad:
     
  16. GNandGS

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    not from same series so I'm not trusting rollback. Wipe the drivers and install 197 or 263
     
  17. Catzoo

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    What a nice found on my Dell Topic ... if this guy is on this board , thanks to him !

    I'll try this soon :D
     
  18. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I know, why could we not figure this out? Or even better, why couldn't Dell make it easier :)
     
  19. Vallejo

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    Ok, now that I installed the new graphic's driver, I'm having 1 little issue. I can't switch from Dedicated graphics with fn+6 to integrated graphics; In order for me to change them, I have to click on the tray icons and click on "saving more power" (or something like that).
    After I change from descrete graphics to integrated one, I cant go back with fn+6 to the descrete graphics...
     
  20. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I do not understand what you mean. I know You need to Switch from Discrete to Switchable Graphics in the Bios. Did you follow the instructions on the first page of this thread?
     
  21. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    Go step by step, and restart after everything is done.
     
  22. kcljj

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    So apart from some bugs, the majority of us can confirm that it works if we follow the instructions as it is shown? Also, if I create a system restore point before I do it, if it fails, would it be able to roll back all that I have done?
     
  23. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I noticed when I switched to the Intel settings, I could not switch back, but I rebooting and then I could. I can live with that, I hardly switch to Intel in the first place.
     
  24. bittercold

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    Did you swap back to switchable graphics in the BIOS? What your talking about is a known issue if you keep the computer set to DISCRETE only in the BIOS.
     
  25. vorob

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    Done everything by guide but works only one time. So i load pc with intel, switch to nvidia, then back to intel and cant switch back to nvidia. Have to reboot.
     
  26. Ogile

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    Yep... switched back and forth... Nothing helps.
    BTW, before this "update", hibernate function worked correctly in switchable mode as well as in discrete one.

    What known issue are you mentioned in your message? Can you please give me a link to where it is discribed?
     
  27. mephiska

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    Yeah I'm not happy with this setup. It does NOT work. Just like the Vorob says, you can get it going once, switch to intel, then try to switch back to nvidia and you get the "increased performance" overlay popup but nothing happens, can't switch.

    The only way i can get it back into nvidia is

    1.)reboot
    2.) go into bios
    3.) change to discrete
    4.) boot into windows, open device manager, enable the geforce 335m
    5.) reboot, enable switchable in bios

    that's WAY too much work. I had better luck with the modified optimus drivers, even though those would randomly blue screen and reboot when the computer went into different power saving states.

    It's too bad, I would have liked this. Guess it's back to the 263 drivers for me.

    I like this laptop but I am NEVER buying a Dell again. I like the Alienware brand but Dell is ruining it. I bought this R1 and the R2 & R3 came out so quickly after that Dell has apparently completely abandoned all driver updates for us. It's a shame.
     
  28. amd098

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    yea same, within 1 year we got 3 models [from r1 to r3], and support for r1 users was cut off without a word

    most likely just gonna build a damn desktop instead and keep the m11x as a notebook
     
  29. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    Not the case for me, yes once you switch to intel, you can't switch back, " until you reboot and press fn5" then it goes right back to Nvidia. This is great for me, I hardly use the intel setting any ways. Maybe you should make sure you run the two scripts when you set this up. I do not need to goto the bios or any of those other steps, just a quick reboot and I can switch back.


    Sent from my iPhone with Tapatalk
     
  30. GNandGS

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    Stop worrying so much about drivers. What issue are you trying to solve that only newer drivers can fix?

    Dell is just as good/bad as others in this regard
     
  31. vorob

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    Newer is always better.
     
  32. GNandGS

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    I like experiments and mods so its good to have threads like this but unless this is your first laptop (especially with nvidia) then you would know that to be false. Historically the best performing drivers have been modified older drivers!**

    So again, unless you have a specific fix that only a newer driver can bring you, do not expect miracles. Im using 285 series drivers on an old agp card... you can bet there are no benefits. Others will try things or experiment just for fun - go for it.

    I DO think there is room for not only performance improvements but also stability so newer drivers are certainly of interest but unless you are really trying to solve some issue playing with bleeding edge or experimental drivers will at this level net little gain.

    ** Do not assume I mean that ver 77.xx is "the best". I'm making a point that when trying to get that last boost in FPS it was sometimes the prior versions with modded inf files that did the best.
     
  33. katalin_2003

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    Newer drivers are NOT always better! That's available for everybody.

    @mephiska

    ALL notebook OEMs do the same thing , they stop developing drivers for older systems, I know, it sucks but it's not only Dell.. same thing will happen with the M11x R3 and all of them, it's just the way it is.
     
  34. Catzoo

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    GnadGS you forget to mention games that refuses to launch if you do not have the latest drivers ..

    For ex , BF3 is playable on R1 , but you need thoses drivers , the stock one will never work :/
     
  35. GNandGS

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    And remember the posts sayin it didn't work well? I didn't forget tho. As stated if a particular problem can only be solved by a certain driver then get it

    What I'm telling you is that the complaining about Dell is silly - in nearly every case if AW/Dell magically released next years driver today the benefit for most would be nil. Few VERY few games will only play with drivers newer than 263.

    Threads like this suck in the users with an assumption they are lacking without the latest driver. This is true but only for a short window of time. After nearly 2 years the boost from drivers is less for us. Soon it may be zero (for games)

    I still think another driver release is possible but expectations are low
     
  36. mephiska

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    No they don't. Good OEMs don't release 3 iterations of the same basic notebook line within a year, and apparently abandon driver support while the first iteration early adopters are still under factory warranty. That does not foster loyal customers.

    It creates a sense of abandonment. It makes me tell my friends "don't buy Alienware, they constantly release new models and will stop supporting yours with updates 6 months after you buy it." And I've done this, I won't recommend Alienware to friends because I don't want them to buy something that will be outdated with a new hardware release.

    The ideal for taking care of customers post-purchase is obviously Apple. Sure they release new hardware, but they make a point of supporting the old customers with updates for a reasonable amount of time. For example, if you buy an iPhone or iPod you can expect to receive regular updates with new features for at least a year or two. Their laptops receive the same level of post sale support.

    This is just bad business for Dell, but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter....Or does it? I just purchased 9 new PCs for our office, and I didn't go with Dell. My experience with my R1 wasn't the primary factor in this, but it certainly influenced the decision.

    As for the argument of "why do you need updated drivers? what game do you need to play that you can't with the 263 drivers?" - take a look at the version logs for the various nvidia driver updates. Yes there may be very few actual gamebreaking bugs that were fixed, but there are numerous enhancements and fixes that we don't get because of the abandonment.

    I wouldn't care if the R1 worked with the optimus drivers, but it doesn't, at least not officially. Alienware did something special with the R1, they came out with it before nVidia's official Optimus solution was fully baked. And now that Optimus is out, they've abandoned the early adopters. If this were any other laptop with a single video card I could ignore the OEM's official drivers and just use nVidia's, but on this one I can't, well, I can, but I lose a big feature and reason that I bought this laptop.
     
  37. GNandGS

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    R1 is two years old not 6 months and the drivers ARE current. Nearly every change brings less and less for the 335. There are exceptions but doubtful a majority

    What do you want your friends to buy? Envy? Sony? Go check their complaint boards.

    Driver releases are pretty good these days. Are you guys all new to the hobby? Fair to push for improvement but this take-my-ball-n-go-home attitude isn't working
     
  38. mephiska

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    Sorry, no, you're wrong on this. I received mine in April 2010, right when the m11x came out. It was brand new to the market, just released. Check the excited "m11X order status thread", the first post is from 3/27/10. They had been floating around review models to review websites for a month or two before that, but the R1 started shipping in early April 2010.

    At this point it's a year and a half old, but the last drivers of any sort they released for this laptop were in March 2011, but to make matters worse, the drivers they gave us, the 263.08 were actually released by nVidia back in Nov 2010, so less than a year after the laptop was released, they gave us "new" drivers that were already 5 months old, and then apparently stopped all releases since then. So to me it seems like they have done no driver work on this laptop since the R2 and R3 came out. They also left us with some archaic Intel 2126 drivers.

    Oh in the meantime I've had my screen replaced twice, hard drive once and battery once, thankfully under warranty.

    And I do want updated drivers to fix a problem that I have. I want them to fix the flash video on intel while bios overclocked bug. It's a problem they know about and haven't addressed, and they probably won't ever, as I've come to realize.
     
  39. GNandGS

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    If left unchallenged would anyone know you are actually after intel?

    Curious: which newer intel driver fixes the problem? Why is it an intel problem rather than Flash? You SHOULD be running the latest intel drivers after trying the modified drivers from the other thread. I assume new drivers didn't solve the issue for you. Tip: if still running that driver combo you can update intel drivers any time! 2555 seems to be out.

    You are all worked up against the wrong things in the wrong proportions.

    If not buying Dell again, fine. But grass isn't always greener in the update arena.