Something better.... than a m11x

New LG P330 laptop has it all: brains, brawn, and beauty -- Engadget

I really like that. The IPS display and the gt555 + the looks.

Well, I was going to buy a m11x, but now I just have to wait.

I looked at the Sony SB too, but I could not stand the build quality.

LG did something right here.

 

Yeah the new LG sounds pretty amazing for it's size. Hopefully the price can stay under a grand Otherwise, i'm still in love with my M11XR1. I'm really more excited about the IPS display on the LG.. hoping to see IPS start to become mainstream.

 

looks like the old macbooks!

 

That looks awesome.

Thanks for sharing. September is a while away though..

 

If the battery life & price point are competitive, then I'll agree with you.

 

It's 13.3" which is NOT comparable to the M11x. For example, I can fit the M11x in my motorcycle's tank bag. I can't fit a 13.3" MacBook Air. I *might* be able to fit a 12.1" with minimal bezel and a M11x could probably fit a 12.1" display in the current form factor, so that is the closest I would consider comparable. The fact that I can't fit the LG P330 in my tank bag puts it in a different class all together. IMO, it's no different than calling an M18x an "M11x killer," or "better than the M11x." At 18", it had better be!

 

It will come with both an HDD and a SSD, an i7 and a GT555m, don't expect for it to be competitive price wise. Can't imagine this selling for less that $1500.

In terms of battery life, its 3.6 pound weight coupled with a full voltage CPU and GPU will likely mean that battery life for anything but browsing the web will suck.

Cooling is the next issue, two full voltage components really need separate heatsinks and cooling fans. The magnesium alloy shell should help dissipate heat at the cost of being very hot to the touch, but I doubt that would be enough with a graphics processor of that caliber.

 

That is very faulty logic on the part of comparing an m18x to the m11x...

If this LG actually ends up having half decent battery life - which I doubt - and is under $1500, it will be the M11x killer considering it weighs 3.6 pounds .

Your space constrains are very particular and do not make a whole new class altogether. Aside from being slightly wider and much lighter than the M11x, the LG P330 is exactly in the same portable gaming sub-notebook class.

 

Bull. Size is one of the most defining characterisitics. Why is there a 13.3" and an 11.6" MBA if it were just a minimal and arbirary point of comparison? Why is the M11x NAMED after it's screen size? Why did they demonstrate that it was designed SPECIFICALLY to fit the same space as an 8.5x11" stack of papers at CES 2010 (before it was released)? Why does Dell/Alienware continually refer to it as the most-powerful notebook of its size? Screen size is the most defining factor because it dictates the notebook's size and what they can do in that space (cooling, performance, power, components, etc). 13.3" MacBooks have optical drives even if the 13.3" MBA doesn't, but the M11x has no optical drive specifically because it's size precludes it without significant sacrifices. If a 13.3" notebook were a valid alternative then we have a LOT more comparable alternatives including the M14x with the same GPU as the LG P330 and an optical drive.

 

I'll leave the M11x for that thing in a sec. M11x's build quality just isn't there IMHO and it's somewhat embarassing bringing this thing out at work.

 

Ips Screen! Wow!

 

Just because it's not the SAME EXACT SIZE does not mean they are not in competing markets.

I would definitely say they are competition to one another.

Everyone has different needs and bases their purchases off those needs.

 

I'll sell my R3 for that in a heartbeat.

 

Right. However, he said that size does not make a new class when it very clearly is the most class-defining attribute. For example, there are MANY 13.3" notebooks with a discrete GPU while there are VERY few 11.6" and smaller notebooks that do. It's still a big deal in the sub-12" segment. Remember all the hype that the Asus N10 netbook was getting for being the first Atom netbook with nVidia graphics (pre-Ion)? It was only on ONE of several N10 models and ultimately meant very little.

 

The M11x is not an 11" notebook really, but effectively a 12" one with a bulky chassis.

There are no true 11" notebooks with a discrete 'gaming' gpu.

The fact is, slight differences in dimensions do not call for entirely new classes to differentiate the laptops. There are:

Netbooks 9-11"
Sub-notebooks - 11-13"
Standard Notebooks - 14-15"
Desktop Replacements - 16-18"

Those are essentially the different markets in the notebook industry.

Despite what some may say, the M11x is not a 'netbook' nor is it competing with netbooks. Dell's 3 pound Mini 10 is not competing with the M11x - the former is $300 while the latter now starts a grand.

I had an Asus N10j and it was terrible - about 3.7 pounds, huge bezel around the screen, bottle-necked by the atom CPU, and with poor battery life.

The N10j was a crappy and overpriced attempt at making a netbook for a gamer. It was simply a rip-off.

 

I'd agree that the m11x and the LG laptop are really in the same category. Size-wise they are close, and most people consider the weight first when they buy small laptops like these. They are more concerned about how much weight it adds to their baggage than whether it fits into their bags

Also, I do not know of many 13 inch laptops with a gt555m and a i7.

Plus, the IPS screen sounds great. AFAIK the m11x screen is mediocre. So if the LG doesn't overheat or have very, very crappy battery life, and it sells in the $1k to $1.5k range it's definitely m11x killer.

 

I never knew LG makes laptops. Anyways, I think this one will be in the 1500-2000$ range.

 

It's 13.3", not like M11x. I guess the price is about 1400$

 

the price is gonna be high, i dont have that type of cash laying around, i wont buy it unless its under $750

 

Actually, Microsoft dictated the evolution of "netbooks" with Windows XP licensing terms through Vista's entire lifecycle, at first restricting it to notebooks with 9" displays and 512MB of memory and 160GB storage (hence, 8.9" netbooks) and then moving it up to 10.1", 11.6", and 12.1". Since the advent of Windows 7 basic/starter, "netbook" level OS pricing from MS has moved DOWN to 10.1" but the HDD limit has gone up to 250GB. The M11x is 11.6" in a ~12" chassis, but it isn't a netbook (dual-core CPU automatically precludes that in MS' terms), though there *are* 12.1" netbooks.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...new-maximum-specs-for-windows-7-netbooks/2859

But the M11x isn't a netbook, so I'm not sure why we're talking about those. It is competing with them in the same way that the MacBook Air 11.6" notebook is: it is the only performance computer system that comes close to their size so the people who weren't willing to give up performance for that size now have a better option. No one ever considered the 13.3" MacBook Air a "netbook" because it was the same size as the regular MacBook, only thinner and without an optical drive. The new MBA offering both 11.6" and 13.3" shows that there is enough differentation to serve two markets with few customers that feel that they are close enough to be willing to cross over to the other size offering. It would be different if we were comparing 12.1" and 13.3" or 13.3" and 14", but we're comparing 11.6" and 13.3" instead and the difference is great enough to be noteworthy.

That's said, you have it backwards. It's not effectively a 12" one with a bulky chassis. The chassis would be appropriate for a 12.1" one. It's "bulky" for an 11.6" one and so it is "effectively" exactly what it is: a bulky 11.6" notebook. And I think it's funny that you cut off your definintion of netbook sizes at 11" when 11.6" and 12.1" netbooks are the norm now (and, no, I don't think that all 11.6" and 12.1" notebooks are netbooks).

M14x has the GT 555M and a much more similar size display. According to tech review websites discussing the M11x, there really are no good 11.6" displays on the market so Dell/Alienware didn't have much of a choice at this size.

 

Which review site are you referring to? And yes, there is a better 11.6" panel in the MBA.

 

Good point. Apple has enough pull to get them to start making them and then they probably have trouble keeping up with even Apple's demand!

Anyway, here is what you are asking for:

Review Alienware M11x R3 Gaming Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

Well, suppose all of the good points of this LG laptop comes true; better processor, better graphics card, less weight, comparable battery life, competitive price, etc, etc...

Would you, m11x owners, readily trade your machine for it? I mean, do we have other reason NOT to take it (other than esthetics and brand preference)?

 

Cause it won't fit in my 11.6" sleeve.

 

I can't wait for it to come out because as long as battery life is good on it and price isnt insane, I -WILL- be switching.

Yes I loved my R1 and my current R3 - but build quality is nothing amazing, and Dell support sucks, I don't see LG's any worse, so I will gladly be switching.

 

I'd switch if the battery life and cooling were comparable; with the specs, magnesium alloy, and IPS screen, I see no reason *not* to switch. But, we'll just have to see how it holds up off paper. Makes me wonder if Dell will finally offer a better m11x screen in future revisions if this becomes serious competition.

 

well it does have some nice specs but for 13.3 i'd rather have the m14x with optical drive

 

The LG is literally half the weight of the m14x.

In-line with the rest of Alienware's products, the m14x is bigger and heavier than its name implies.

If you need a quad core and don't mind the 6.5 pound weight then the m14x is the way to go right now. But if a dual core would be sufficient and the aesthetics of the LG are appealing, I don't see why someone would not get the LG if they could afford it - especially with external USB drives being so light and affordable these days.

 

Yeah this and the m14x are not really competing products if you ask me.

They are in the sense that they are both portable computers - but share not a single other trait.

 

Ill be keeping an eye out for this! I love my m11x don't get me wrong, but a broken hinge, missing rubber feet and scratched screen (from touching keyboard), the build quality issues are starting to grate on me! I also feel like a 14 year old boy when I use it in public....

 

This computer looks perfect.....but I'm betting that if it is ever available in the states it will be north of $2,000 the way it is speced.

 

And yet people think it compares MORE closely with the M11x? It's also bulky, thick, gaudy, and heavy.

 

This one looks really good. I have been looking for a more sophisticated and low key smaller laptop but the M11x fits none of those. I am glad I held of on a purchase and will consider my options more carefully. I expect sager / Clevo to release a competing model eventually too.

 

I'm afraid you may be correct.

Hopefully they will release an i5 version with a regular HDD for $400 less. But even then it will likely be a ~$1400 competitor to the Macbook Pro.

 

O_O how is it not a competing product? they share similar screen size, same GPU(GT555), both with sandy bridge non ULV cpu

in short put them together and you will have comparable benches / gaming performance

 

i laughed a lil when i saw the m11x is comparable to the "bulky" 13.3 lg, 10 bucks says it will overheat like all other lg pieces of crap, sorry guys it is closer to the m14x

 

What's that the M14X and the M11X compare more closely?

Or this LG laptop compares with the M11X or M14X?

I don't follow - not trying to be a turd I just don't know the specifics about what you were comparing =)

 

I laugh when you all say this isnt comparable. it isnt because on paper the lg vomits in the m11xs face.

Crying about 13.3 vs 11 and saying its not fair? Are you guys kidding me?? Seriously you must be joking. Look at the borders on the LG and how thin they are. look at an m11x and see how thick they are. The m11x is actually in a 14" or 13.3 chassis and they used a tiny screen with fat borders to call it an 11" laptop. its pathetic imo. It's like taking an m18x and putting a 10" screen on it with huge borders and saying its the fastest 10" in the universe.

I will buy that in a heartbeat if it comes out soon.. thx for the link.

 

Agreed - too many people are looking at the numbers 11.6 vs 13.3 and are thinking they aren't in the same category because of this screen size. Remember the m11x has a huge bezel... It's more of a 12.5" laptop with a 11.6" screen. This thin bezelled LG looks like it's trimming the fat.

Just do the math people: These are the measurements:

p330 - 12.33 x 8.38 x 1.07 (max); 3.6lbs
m11x - 11.25 x 9.19 x 1.29 ; 4.4lbs


Aside from the 1 inch wider aspect, the p330 is smaller in all other aspects.

This alone is a pretty compelling argument to why we are comparing the two. Now we just need a side by side compare picture to see.

 

At 3.6 pounds I am guessing that the LG will have a 4400mah battery and will last 30 minutes playing a game with the CPU on power save mode.

According to notebookcheck, Notebooks with a dual core i7 and a 555m draw about 90-100 watts per hour. This thing will likely ship with a 48 watts per hour battery, you do the math.

 

The ONLY thing they share is the GPU.

Just because they share sandy bridge architecture does not matter. The M14X is a true quad core, twice the weight, thicker, and larger screen.

The LG has smaller dimensions all the way around, a dual core CPU, and a smaller screen.

So the similarities one more time? JUST the GPU.

 

This thread is quickly becoming a battle ground for semantics.

The fact is that this thing will be the most powerful gaming computer south of 14" yet. If the LG is appealing to you, well designed, and reasonably priced, then just wait for it to come out.

Then we can start contrasting and bickering.

 

Guys guys, take a breathe and count to 10...and dooms33ker isn't advertising against the forum rules in your signature (I R GOOD CITIZEN)? I feel like making my own laptop with a micro ATX all round components and the laptop will be made outta' wood with dual 6990s! But back on-topic, I think in Size, the M11X wins by far. LG is well, alright. Good microwaves. LG's new gaming portable do thingy doesn't seem reliable. Alienware is overpriced. I learn't it the hard way. But still, I love my M11XR1 because of the size it is a big beast trapped into a little body. I'll go with the M11X :S

 

I'm 37 years old and live in superficial image conscious Los Angeles, and when I pull out my M11x in public I feel like a Pimp-Shinobi-Jedi

I get compliments and questions all the time from girls too..

(Secret: Rock the purple color keyboard. It gets noticed )

 

Hahaha one of the better posts in this forum. Nice tip dude! If I don't had a girlfriend I would follow your advice.

 

Hahaha maybe I will try that out myself =)

Purple on Red..... could look hideously awesome!

 

Once again, the m11x is in a 12.1" chassis, NOT a 13.3" chassis. Absolutely NO 13.3" notebook will fit in my tank bag while an M11x will. They designed it to fit anywhere a stack of school papers would fit. The 13.3" does not do that. Also, 13.3" is absolutely inarguably a STANDARD sized notebook while the M11x is often compared to netbooks. While there can be a 13.3" ultra-portable, like the MacBook Air, there is no such thing as a 13.3" netbook. There IS a 13.3" full MacBook with optical drives. You can compare it to that.

The LG is more comparable to the M14x than the M11x. Period. 13.3" is a full-sized notebook. Making a thin-and-light one at that size only puts you closer in comparison to the MBA while giving it those specs puts it closer to the M14x. To say that it's more comparable to the M11x is ridiculous.

 

the LG is 1 inch longer... other than that, its thinner, narrower, and lighter

 

There are three reasons why I will probably pick up the m11x over this new notebook.

1)I can get it now. I really don't want to wait until 4th quarter to get a laptop.
2)Size: From what I have seen, it's 11 inches. YouTube - ‪M11x R3 Review Part 1‬‏. the extra two inches makes it less portable.
3)Price: My model is currently priced at 1442 online. I am sure this can be negotiated down. Just looking at the specs for this new notebook, I would hazard a guess of over $2000.

While this new notebook does look more professional, it's unfortunately too large, too expensive, and will be released too late.

 

again...
the LG is 1 inch longer... other than that, its thinner, narrower, and lighter