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    Skyrim runs good

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by BranMuffin, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. BranMuffin

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    My stats below basically! shadows low everything else medium. :D
     
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    That's great news! What kind of fps are you getting?
     
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    Could you use Fraps and provide us the range of frame rate?
     
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    i can't contribute fps info but i can also say that my r2 i5 runs skyrim quite well on medium.
     
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    I put shadows on low and cranked everything else to high.

    There is one other important item to reduce. Draw Distance items rendered in medium.

    This allows everything close-up to be on high.

    I am using an i5-R2
     
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    Update for me. I got my temperature issues fixed (turns out I had like a pound of dust in the back of my M11x R2... doh!)

    my game runs very well now at the default medium settings with throttlestop. I'm getting a very solid 35-40 frames per second outdoors. Occasionally it will drop to 25, but there is never any stuttering or lag. When you enter a loading zone, there is a slight freeze as the zone loads, but this is no different than Oblivion or Morrowind.

    Combat is smooth, especially with multiple enemies on screen. I took on 4 bandits at a time, and my framerate was solid throughout. The scene with the dragon was also very smooth, only going as low as 30 FPS when the dragon blasted fire breath on you.

    I have the M11x R2 core i7 overclocked at 164 in the BIOS, with Throttlestop. I have played for almost 6 hours on Skyrim, and have had 2 crashes so far. From what I'm reading on the Skyrim forums, many people are having crashes and glitches. Bethesda has indicated a patch is underway.

    This is also with 4X AA and AF too, which is pretty crazy. I'm sure if I disabled that, I'd get even higher framerate.
     
  7. fluffboy

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    Here is a video I took while playing the game using fraps
    Here

    Mind you that when fraps is running its around 18-32 fps range with fraps not running its pretty damn smooth :D
     
  8. Panic AK

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    Good to hear! I'm downloading it now for my R2.

    If you could post any other optimization tips, that would be greatly appreciated. Throttle Stop settings? I don't even remember how it works, because I only used it for one game, a long time ago.

    I'm stuck on an incredibly slow network atm, so I have a lot of time to get ready for this game.
     
  9. Humble308

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    I have an R2 with BranMuffins stats and I'm nowhere getting his results. I'm so frustrated with this comp right now. I ran fraps and in the beggining of the game I got a max high of 4 FPS...i say again 4 FPS. Occasionally it bounced back to 3 fps...I don't know what I could be doing wrong. I've tried nearly everything I can think of. I'm running everything on low, screen rez is lower than I usually game on, I installed the latests driver, I tried overclocking. My alien has never even hiccupped when playing games like Far Cry 2, Bad Company 2, Oblivion, Black Ops. Fellas I'm definately not a computer expert and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. If you guys are getting such good results I don't understand why mine is running so slow. Would really appreciate any feed back yall can offere

    Kindest regards,
    Derek
     
  10. Panic AK

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    This might sound like a dumb question, but did you remember to add Skyrim to your whitelist, Humble308?
     
  11. Humble308

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    It's not a dumb question because I don't even know what white listing it is....I also forgot to mention I'm running Skyrim off of steam, not a Cd. however I've never had a prob using steam. So what is white listing?
     
  12. Panic AK

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    It's how you set a specific program to utilize your Nvidia GPU instead of the integrated graphics.

    Right click your desktop, and click on "Nvidia control panel".

    In this window, click on "Manage 3d settings", and then on the "Program settings" tab. Click the ADD button, and find the Skyrim .exe, and then use the drop down menu and select "High-performance Nvidia processor".
     
  13. jaeyang9

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    go to nvidia control panel > manage 3d settings > program settings tab > click add & locate the exe file usually found in:

    /program files(x86)/steam/steamapps/common/(skyrim game folder) i don't have the game so don't know exact folder name..

    once you've selected the exe file, set to high performance nvidia processor

    have fun gaming! :cool:
     
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    I had the same problem at first, your not even using your NVIDIA graphics card. Double click on the NVIDIA icon in the services section of your task bar (Usually lower right corner).
    3D Settings -> Manage 3D Settings -> Program Settings (tab)

    Select the "Elder Scrolls..." program and set to "High Performance NVIDIA processor", and accept all he defaults after that.

    I'm running ultra high performance with full resolution and no trouble except I put something under the laptop to help it keep cool, I find it expremely playable for far too long (real time-waster that game!).
     
  15. Humble308

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    Thank you so much fellas, that did the ticket...Runnin 30-40fps now. I had a couple questions though that may seem a little stupid. How do my other games run well without doing the process of using the Nvidia control panel. 2nd) Why doesn't the system just automatically use the better graphics always? Thanks again for all the help. Very much appreciated
     
  16. BranMuffin

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    Sounds like you need to whitelist your nvidia gpu to run skyrim.

    And no I do not know the exact fps playing skyrim. but I do know that BF3 and Skyrim run very smooth for me. Smooth is a solid 27-30 fps outside in Bf3 and 35-40 inside buildings. SO. To be honest with the whole FPS thing. Games with high detail are being created to utilize natural view and speed of 24fps also known as theater speed or cinema speed (cause that is the fps that theaters project at). So if your averaging 24+ its actually should look very smooth especially with a 720p screen. There are rare occasions that I get beat in BF3 by my friend who has 50 + fps plus. Thats my take on the whole smooth/fps deal. Remember EVERY player is different.
     
  17. jaeyang9

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    it's a new game. so most likely there's no game profile listed yet. same thing happened when i tried to play modern warfare 3 after initial install.
     
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    I just want to add to this thread...

    If you're reading this and have an R3, and are contemplating buying Skyrim, or perhaps like I did, you are contemplating buying an m11x r3 FOR Skyrim...

    It plays WONDERFULLY.

    Automatically detected High settings, went along with that, and it looks STUNNING on the 1366 x 768..

    Perhaps its because I'm not that used to higher resolutions (Been using 1024 x 768 on a TV for years!) but either way I cannot believe how good the world looks.

    And if you're worrying about the small screen for Skyrim like I was, trust me - it is absolutely fine.

    Thank you Alienware and more importantly Bethesda for giving me pure gaming goodness!
     
  19. BranMuffin

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    I am with you on both terms! love the game and love my alienware so far!
     
  20. Rypac

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    I'm pretty stunned at how well Skyrim runs on the M11x. I had my doubts but they were all proven wrong.

    My brother has the PS3 version and to be honest, the framerate is just appauling, with many frequent and annoying drops. It cannot even compare to the footage that I've seen of it running on the M11x from froogle and fluffboy. Props to Bethesda for not skimping out and producing a poor console port!
     
  21. drste06

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    been playing skyrim on my m11x and im 11hours in with framerates of 30-50depending on area very very playable and thats with a mix of mediums and high im thinkin with a few patchs we may be able to push this gamee even further
     
  22. zenstrata

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    I am running skyrim on a brand new m11x r3 with the i7 and the 2gb video card. As others have said it runs very well, smooth with no lag or stutters. (I do not know how to check framerate but I would guess it is above 30 as I can't see any slowdown). Most settings turned quite far up. I run at 2x antialiasing and 2x antistropic filtering. Shadows are turned to Low. Texture Quality: High, Radial Blur Quality: Low (I hate blurry games! this is personal preference for me), Decal Quantity: High. All View Distances and Fades maxed Object Detail: High.

    My one issue, every 4 or 5 hours of gameplay skyrim crashes. Have not been able to determine why yet. It just crashes out of game. Not really a problem if you save regularly.

    oh, I should also mention that I am running it on an external 28" monitor at 1440x900 resolution with a 16:10 aspect ratio.

    I tried to turn it up to 1920x1200 but the game stutters quite a bit running at that level. Honestly I can't tell the difference in image quality between 1440x900 and 1920x1200.
     
  23. darkdomino

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    Is it a crash to desktop? I've had a few of those, and I believe it's Skyrim's bugginess. I'm reading on the Elder Scrolls forums that tons of other people are having issues.

    I hate to say it, but Skyrim is a really buggy console port. It didn't get any PC love at all. Hopefully they will release a patch soon.
     
  24. drste06

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    a few people have been having crash to desktop aparantly this will help i did the change and havent crashed since

    Fix common crash to desktop problem
    Access the Sound menu from the Control panel. In the playback tab, right click on speakers and select properties. Select the advanced tab on the new screen and select 24 bit, 44100Hz (Studio Quality) from the drop down menu


    from The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim tweaks improve graphics, disable Vsync, change FOV and more | PC Gamer quite a few nice things in there
     
  25. Vidaluko

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    Guys, is Bethesda, is either play the game with a lot of bugs or even save data corrupt/lost or wait a few weeks to get it...

    I´m gonna do the last option, because I had problems with Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, more than 60 hours of gameplay lost on those 3 games...
     
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    Agreed. Sounds like he's running the game with the IGP rather than the 335.
     
  27. Shaco

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    I'm playing on ULTRA settings and it runs amazing on my R3!

    Check the attachments for the settings i'm running.

    24 FPS was the lowest I got (but that was with running FRAPS). It's usually around 30 FPS when i'm walking around in the wilderness and slaying bandits. Inside buildings it's around 35 to 60 FPS.

    BTW, does anyone know the console command to show fps in Skyrim itself? It used to be 'showfps' in Morrowind but that doesn't work anymore.

    edit: uploades some more screenshots
     

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    Is there a demo for this? I really want to see how well the R2 will run it with a higher resolution on an external monitor before buying...

    What happened to the good ol' days when every game had a demo available before it was even released :/
     
  29. Intangble

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    those days are sadly gone....i remember pc gamer demo discs!


    ok but anyways - it runs fine on r2 externally, however it def drops in fps in 1080p. im at 1368x766 and its full screen on my 23 inch and it looks great and runs very well.
     
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    im trying to improve the pixellated shadows, what option does this?
     
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    Hi guys,

    I am having some really serious issues with either mouse lag or FPS in Skyrim on my M11x R2 (i5). Perhaps some of you can help me figure this out. (It might be FPS... I have not run fraps or anything... but the game looks great, I just mainly have trouble when I look around with my mouse.)

    Basically, in certain areas, especially with NPCs/ enemies around, my horizontal (and vertical to a lesser extent) looking with my mouse tears around like crazy... I would describe it as "mouse lag"- and it is frustrating the crap out of me.

    I have searched online extensively for fixes to this and implemented what I could. I have turned mouse acceleration and VSync off in SkyrimPrefs.ini (both in the Steam folder and in My Docs) and Skyrim.ini

    (by Adding iPresentInterval=0 under the [Display] section and setting bMouseAcceleration=0 in the [Controls] section)

    I am also running at Medium settings with AA and anti-iso filtering both off.

    I am using a wireless Microsoft mouse... I looked for any acceleration or smoothing in the mouse software and just found something that allegedly increases "mouse precision" and turned that off too.

    Any ideas? Any other M11x users having this problem? Any other ideas on how to increase the game's performance if this sounds like an FPS issue?

    Thanks
     
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    update:
    I seem to be having the same problem as is described here:
    pc - How can I fix mouse lag in Skyrim? - Gaming - Stack Exchange

    As w/ him, I have tried everything suggested here... to no avail


    And yes, the game is white-listed... I also updated my nVidia driver. Same problem w/ new driver as with the version I previously had.

    Any other thoughts?
     
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    Update: Well, I'm an idiot. It was the damn mouse. I have no idea why this possibility had not previously occured to me. For some reason, my Microsoft wireless mouse was just stuttering like nuts. Still not sure why.

    In any case, I got home last night and ran fraps with my game for the first time, which let me know that on Medium settings I was getting crazy good fps everywhere- but still the horrible, horrible mouse lag persisted. I finally grabbed my cheapo wired desktop mouse- and sure enough, smooth as butter. I presume that turning off the mouse acceleration and vsync has also helps (i have kept those changes), but I cannot stress enough how well this game runs now.

    I have an M11x R2 i5- I am running Throttlestop, but nothing OC'ed.
    I have now maxed all the sliders except grass fade, and am running 4X AA and 16X AF (Vsync still forced off in Sykrimprefs.ini). I believe all other details are maxed except radial blur and some shadows- and I don't have all the reflections b/c they aren't important to me.

    Bottom line- the M11x is a total beast with this game. At worst- in hairy situations outdoors, I drop to 25 fps (i think I saw 19ish once) but averages 35+ with the settings I described. Indoors, anywhere between 45-65 fps avg. Now that I no longer have the lag thing to worry about, I can really appreciate the beauty of this game.

    If you are on the fence- concerned that maybe it won't run on your little buddy- fear not. You'll be totally fine. Your social and professional relationships may not fare as well...
     
  34. shikua

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    I am having NO luck getting Skyrim to run at anything near playable. I have it whitelisted, I've tried overclocking in the BIOS and with setPLL, and I have throttlestop running, and the mod to let it use more than 2 GB of RAM, and it still crawls along unplayably, and the mouse still lags beyond belief. I have the m11x R2, i5 processor, GT 355M GPU, and 8GB RAM. Anyone think they can offer any help?
     
  35. soggydog04

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    @ shikua: I have identical specs. Some ideas:
    Run fraps ( http://www.fraps.com)or another tool to determine your in-game FPS. If it is a frame rate problem, that is one thing.
    If it IS a framerate problem:- make sure you have TESV.exe whitelisted, and not the launcher. Run the game from a TESV shortcut.
    Force off Vsync as described here: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim tweaks improve graphics, disable Vsync, change FOV and more | PC Gamer

    If you run the tool and your FPS is reasonable (like above 25... my guess is you'll see way above that) but you are still lagging like nuts, it is NOT a CPU/GPU performance problem and you may be in the same situation that I was in. I was using a wireless mouse (Intellimouse Explorer I think)- and perhaps my issue had something to do with the software, bad connection, battery or something. I plugged in a $10 wired laser mouse from target and now everything runs like a dream.
    Keep us posted- if none of that is helpful, there is some other stuff you might try.
     
  36. Intangble

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    truly bizarre.,....a few baseline qs.

    1 ) do other games run well - newer ones? or is this an isolated problem with Skyrim
    2) have you tried turning the nvidia processor to always on from the global settings to make SURE the nvidia is running?
    3) do you monitor temperatures? if so, what are they at?
    4) resolution or are you using an external monitor?
    5) EDIT (Add): I know the mod you're talking about, have you tried it vanilla (Stock game no mods)?

    this thing runs skyrim perfectly (im on m11xr2 i7 with 4gb and im easily on high/ultra)
     
  37. shikua

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    Ahhhh! I had the launch set to the nVidia card, making the TESV.exe file run on it was a success! Getting 20-35 fps now :D Thank you guys so much. I haven't been using a mouse yet, because I've just been doing a test install and testing graphics settings, but now that I know, I can try out my mouse :D
     
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    I seem to have fixed the issue, but yes I had tried it stock, and the mod was one of my first attempts to fix the problem.
     
  39. mattcadalic

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    Hi guys, I see everybody is enjoying Skyrim om m11x now. I have a very annoying problem tho.

    With medium setting and v-sync turn off, the framerate is 50-60fps for me when I just start the game. Everything seems nice until I ran the game for about 15-20 minutes and every time it doesn't matter anywhere in the game, the framerate drops below 20 for no apparent reason. If I pause a game but going into option menu and wait for about five minutes, when I return to the game the framerate will return to 50-60fps but again after i play for 20-25 minutes it will drop. This seems to be occuring in cycle as well. As when I push on to play once the framerate drop, for some period it will return to 50-60fps for a short time and then drop again then return..... I wonder if this is the heating problem on my m11x r2, I aways keep my m11x elevated with laptop stand with a small fan under the GPU. Anybody have the same issue with me? Any solution to this? If its a heating problem then anybody have any idea on how to deal with it? It would be a a shame to get a copy on PS3.

    My m11x R2 has i3 core and 8G of ram by the way. And nVidia driver is up to date.
     
  40. diablos991

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    You almost certainly have a background process eating up some CPU cycles. You need to test for spyware, auto update programs, etc... Close things in your system tray or manually stop the processes.
     
  41. Rypac

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    Could be a heating problem. Try using HWiNFO64 to monitor your temps and see if they are getting high enough to cause throttling. If they are, it might be time for a repaste.
     
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    Ok, Im trying to scan for spyware and update right now. But I wonder if this is the cause. Thanks for your advise.
     
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    I downloaded the program from your link. How do I know if the temperature are high enough to cause throttling?
     
  44. Rypac

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    What are the highest temps that you are recording?

    I'm not too sure what temperature it starts to throttle but anything under 80C is pretty good and nothing to worry about.
     
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    It maxed out around 70c so I guess this rig is still good to go in term of temperature. God I was afraid that I have to spend my weekend taking it apart for repaste. It seem to be what diablos991 mentioned. After I followed his advice and removed some spyware after a complete system scan, and install updates for my window. I am able to play skyrim smoothly now! I ran it 4 hours straight with 50-60 in dungeons, 40ish outside and acceptable 30-40 in big town without a single performance drop to be seen, Thank you diablos991 and you too Rypac. I just killed my first dragon!!! Love Elder scroll!
     
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    Glad to hear you got it working! Now just keep avoid anymore of that spyware and you'll be fine ;)
     
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    My m11x r3 runs smooth (stock) i7, 2gb 540m, 6gb ram, 500gb hd. Medium is the sweet spot, will run fraps and send a screeny here
     
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    Are you running FSAA at all?
     
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    Ill try that right now :)