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    Nvidia GeForce 335M Problem

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by deek1123, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. deek1123

    deek1123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, So I read that I could download a program called MSI Afterburner and safely over clock my GPU. I wanted to do this because I cant watch 1080p youtube videos on my external monitor without it being a little choppy. so I tried and i bumped my core clock about 80Mhz (to 530) . and i bumped my memory clock 60 Mhz (to 850). Then Watched a youtube video and everything seemed to be much better. I then played a video game for an hour and went to bed. next day I am playing the same video game with it still over clocked and the game crashed. When I loaded the game up again my levels on the MSI graphs showed that my GPU was at much lower then the regular amount so i restarted my computer and figured I would just forget this gpu over clocking business. when my computer finished restarting I checked to see if my gpu was back to normal and the levels show a 135 Core clock and a 135 Memory clock speed. Any help / Insight to what is going on would be great. Thank you.

    I have an R2.
    Intel i7U640
    8GB rAM
    335M Geforce
     
  2. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Don't blame smth if you don't know how to use it. Download gpu-z, go to sensors tab... and tell me the numbers while watching video or gaming smth.

    Search on forum Overclocking 330m thread.

    Did you even checked your gpu temps? Have you ever heard about testing with Furmark after OCing?
     
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    deek1123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok I will download Gpu-z and tell u what it says. I do have throttle stop which tells me the gpu temp however. And I have the GPU temp logs. The highest temperature it reached was 82 degrees Celsius.
     
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    deek1123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Gpu-z says this while i was playing a game.

    GPU Core clock 405 MHz
    GPU Memory Clock 324 MHz
    GPU Shader Clock 810 MHz
    GPU Temp 70 degrees Celsius
    GPU Load is varies quickly between 73-95% sometimes drops quickly down to 25% rarely.
    Memory controller load is 37-55%
    video engine load is 0%
    Dedicated memory usage is 612 MB
    Dynamic memory usage is 49 MB
    VDDC is .8500 V

    Its set abck to the default values on MSI afterburner of 450 core clock and 790 Memory clock. and MSI reads the same as GPU-z for how its performing
     
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    deek1123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    No I have never heard about Furmark. And I read a few threads about overclocking the 335M before I did it, and I put the values lower then what I found on the threads just to be safe. I am not blaming the program. I realise in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing this would not have happened, and I know I don't know what i'm doing. When I did do it I was always checking the temp and they did not ever reach anything too high. that being said I do not know if low 80's is too high for a gpu.
    I appreciate your help.
     
  6. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    On clock's name you can do left click and set to show highest clock. Was it the one which should be? I assume yes.

    Your laptop is pretty small and you should look at your temperature. Even if GPU is 80+ still cooler is better because not only GPU suffers from temperature. Mine were about 75 degrees max at 25% OC but I had 16.4" laptop and a notebook cooler stand.

    If you can clean you laptop. Blow the fan.
    Then Use either NVInspector or Nvidia Tools with ESA support 6.08 to overclock. I have never used Afterburner.
    OC on 5% everything. Use Furmark to stress it for 15-20 minutes at least. Then up to 10% and 30 minutes testing. Keep your eye on temperature.
    Usually you should use GPU Observer gadget for keeping eye.

    And Please. Use EDIT button. Do not do double posts here.
     
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    deek1123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, The highest Clocks are the same as the current clocks. I cleaned my laptop 2 days ago using compressed air. I will post after attempting with Furmark and Nvidia tools or NVinspector. When I keep my eye on temperature what temperature should I be looking for?

    Ran Furmark with it set at 450 MHz Graphics, 790 Memory Clock, and 1080 MHz Processor through the NVIDIA tools. (These were the default levels).
    The whole time I ran it (20 minutes) The Core clock stayed at 405 MHz, the Memory clock stayed at 324 MHz and the Shader stayed at 810 MHz. Temperature at 20 minute mark was 72 degrees Celsius. GPU load was at 99%.

    I Then ran it with 5% increase like you said. 472/829/1134. Same thing occured. the GPU stayed at 405/324/810 the entire time. Temperature remained at 72 degrees. GPU load stayed at 99%.

    Before the game crashed my gpu was changing its frequencies. Ever since they have stayed at the 405/324/810 when playing games or stressing them. When not stressing them they remain at 135/135/270 which was much lower then before the game crash.
     
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    Well i am using MSI afterburner and kombustor for my video card OC... Haven't tried the furmark and its less of a hassle than Nvidia's native thing.

    run kombustor (using nvidia card, by default was integrated) and just slowly raise the clock speed until you start getting anomalies then drop it a bit till its stable again.

    My R3 goes up to about 81c now, but i haven't blown the dust in a while, when its clean it stays at around 70. wouldn't worry unless it exceeds 85c sitting on the table as after a while it would start throttling. Unless you OC it too much games won't crash just throttle the GPU from overheat until temp. drops, if you OC too much and it crashes, it will drop the speed of the card.

    actually had cooked my old desktop card playing about (7900GS), after that it wouldn't let me OC it, in any way or form. wasn't a bigie as back in the day i could play most stuff with it anyways.
     
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    deek1123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was talking to my friend and telling him what happend and he said it sounds like I blew one of the rams on my gpu, do you guys think this is the case. Im not sure how much he knows about computers but what he said made sense because my memory clock speed is less then half of what it used to be?
     
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    reinstall drivers and check MSI afterburner after on what it says, its unlikely you busted a ram module, there are failsafes in modern CPUs and GPUs to stop that from happening. It just resets clock speeds/freezes or simply reboots and resets clock speeds... if you are really clueless in what you are doing, do your research first, overclock after... in early days it used to be serious stuff as you could seriously fry the hardware by OCing, now its quite safe.

    Again, it is possible, just really implausible to happen. most likely drivers gone wonky or something... (gotta reinstall mine once a month or so -_- no idea why, just stops working)
     
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    All you need is to install Nvidia drivers with option clean install.
    Then it will be fine. Next time use Nvidia Tools.
     
  12. deek1123

    deek1123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    un4tural I reinstalled my graphics drivvers and restarted my computer. Then I looked at my GPU speeds and everything was back to normal for about 30 seconds. After that all the speeds dropped right back down to 135/135/270.

    I dont think I used clean install option. I will try that now.
     
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    Clocks always fall. You should be interested in MAX clocks.
     
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    I reinstalled with the Clean install this time and everything looks like it is functioning normally. Thank you guys for your time. It really helped out. Because this happened would it still be a good idea to use nvidia tools and FurMark to overclock or should I just forget about overclocking my GPU? Was this just a software error or did i OC it too high and caused the OC?
     
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    MSI afterburner caused real trouble on Windows 8 laptop recently.

    So it could be the problem. Use the one I wrote and good luck
     
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    Glad you were able to fix it, as James suggested it's always better to try the clean installation to make sure all settings and configurations are reset to default. Re-installing over old drivers will most likely drag the problems onto the next installation.