M11x R2 i7 Final Fantasy 14?

Hey guys how's it going. I just joined the forums since I recently decided to order a M11x for a "back to school" laptop and for gaming (duh lol.

Anyways, the main game I plan on playing is obviously going to be FFXIV (released this late september). Now, based on the games it can run now, can anyone predict or possibly run the benchmark in order to get a good reading (r2 not r1) of how the game will run.

Thanks in advance!

p.s. I still have time to cancel my order (to get a M15x). I was thinking about this but I hear its heavy and had bad battery life (for taking notes in lectures) etc.

 

Hey,

I took the final fantasy 14 benchmark with my R1 and got a score of 1385. According to square: FINAL FANTASY XIV Official Benchmark

My system is unable to run the game; however, looking around online, these scores seem to be flawed (in my favor), in a sense that people who have awesome desktops are getting low scores.

That being said, I hope to be able to run the game. With your incoming R2, the extra processing power should increase the benchmark by a few hundred points. But again, the benchmark seems to be flawed.

 

the benchmark is definitely flawed... i dont believe the actual game only have that "limited" amount of settings for gfx

 

R2 right now scores absolutely terrible on the benchmark, but like it was previously stated the benchmark is extremely flawed and is close to meaningless.

I'm in the beta but its hard to tell how the final product is going to run. The beta is extremely buggy with people that have top of the line desktops having a lot of choppiness. The game is capped at 30 fps, I'm only getting around 15 fps when i'm running around outside and in the town it drops to about 10. The beta seems to only start up with the 257.30 drivers(maybe its a problem for only me, i don't know. The 257 drivers don't like me overclocking my gpu so i'm sure it will run a lot better when I can update to faster drivers.)

Also note that outside of being able to turn off shadows, you can't customize anything in the game to help. In the final version there should be an option to go between low-and max graphics.



these are the minimum requirements, i'm pretty sure they are around the same as crysis. I can't see the game running well in anything over medium if that ends up being an option. I am using the m11x for school and ffxiv as well, even with my experience with the beta I believe we'll be able to play it. Just don't expect it to look amazing.

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this is what the game looks like right now on the r2. CPU @158 and nothing done to the gpu.

 

@kg21vc15

dude that's awesome! Good to know that it will be playable. By the way, how does the screen size effect playability with the BETA?

 

System Requirements - 2.ghz.. Guess this means us R1 guys are left in the dark then... Strange that I score higher than most in the benchmark @1652 and yet the minimum is above my cpu. hmmmmm.....

Bw,

StevenX

 

I know what you mean StevenX, I've almost been pulling my hair out deciding on a M15x or M11x simply because SE keeps posting bogus benchmarks, obsurd system specs and of course no straight answer, ugh!

 

Let's put it this way:

You'll be able to play whatever game you want, will it run like a high end desktop? No. Will it perform admirably and maybe help you get a good gaming fix while out and about? Yes.

FFXIV is being optimized for PC and consoles if I remember correctly. So you'll get decent performance.

On the other side with a Q9550 and GTX480 with 8Gb ram, I get about 2500 lol.

 

Inate8 - your kidding me? Only 2550 with a 9550&480? Dude, now I know something is up with this benchmark!

Thanks for the heads up!

Best wishes,

Stevenx

 

Actually the benchmark is useless. The community over at ffxivcore.com have been compiling a spreadsheet of various systems here . Just take a look at the list and you will get the idea of how bad it is lol. I didnt get an invite to the beta(thats a whole other issues being a FFXI Vet since day 1 but im not bitter lol) but i'm sure that m11x will be fine come the final product.

 

agreed, the FFXI benchmark was useless too, no surprise this one isn't any different. Thanks for the beta pictures

 

I think you scored higher because of your SSD. If you look at the benchmark scores at the end, it looks like one of the benchmarks is of loading. It has "ms" at the end of the number. So I think it's also benchmarking loading time too.

 

it's a minimum 15GB install and 6GB in documents folder, so that makes sense.

 

bump!

Yay 10 character minimum ftw.

 

Played some more and the servers becoming more stable have definitely helped it out. I've played in some small party situations (3 people) and it ran smooth.

It still lags in citys and near the leve crystals ( where you go to get quests ) because of how many people there are gathered around the areas. Right now the beta is more of a stress test than anything so the game could be overpopulated compared to what it will be at release. Still its playable right now and this is at stock GPU and overclocked I7 cpu. The game is going to be completely playable at around 22 or 23 fps, imo. Obviously the FPS to aim for is 30 but it's not like a shooter or something else where you are going to skip or change the game play drastically.

I'm hoping come release there's a lot more different options to mess with the graphics because even though it runs, i'd still prefer to be at a constant 30 fps if it means sacrificing a little graphic quality. The game is beautiful though.

 

I've pre-ordered the collector's edition of XIV. I'm really excited for this game and hope it all works out.

kg21vc15, how is the single player elements compared to 11? That was my main issue with 11 that it was really hard to solo.

 

Honestly, i'm only level 8 gladiator and level 11 physical right now, but solo is by far better than team play at the moment as far as leveling up goes (xi at this point in the game was better solo also). I'm not sure how it will be as you get higher up, but I've heard that either small groups or solo play is best XP wise. I'll know more about it by the end of the week, square has fixed the servers for the most part and the game is playable unless they mess it back up.

 

Not necessarily... I have some games in their boxes. Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 1: 2.4GHz single core, 2Ghz dual core. Assassin's Creed: 2.6GHz dual core. Dragon Age: 1.6 GHz dual core. All these games are reported as being playable by M11x R1. I am actually amazed how a SU7300 can deal with these requirements. So FF14 asking 2GHz doesn't necessarily mean that M11x R1 will not be able to run it.

The problem, I would say, would be to play online with others... Non-multiplayer-online games seem to use less cpu...

 

+rep

Thanks for the info. I know I, and I'm sure others would appreciate your experiences with this game so any updates would be appreciated. I signed up for the beta but didn't make it

 

Once I get deeper in I can maybe talk a little more about it, but as of now I think 10% or less than the final games content is actually revealed in beta. The game so far is generic low level ffxi/ff bad guys (puks, crabs, ghosts, other small animals, etc ) with some exceptions when you get into the higher levels. The levequests are uneventful in the fact that they seemed to take from wow in the "kill a certain amount of x monster for xp/money/item".) and the missions are also unavailable so as far as the game goes there's not much to talk about. As I get higher the gameplay mechanics might be revealed in more detail though.

 

That's because those games typically quote Pentium 4, Pentium D or older Athlon 64 speeds. The i7 and the Pentium/ Core 2 Processor in the M11x are all much more clock efficient that these processors, so they can run at lower clock speeds. You really need to look at the brand processor it's quoting clock speeds for to be sure, if it's telling your a 2.5ghz Pentium D(which was sold a couple of years ago), chances are a 2ghz core 2 will cut the cheese, ect.. That being said, the FFXIV system requirements are given with Core 2 Duo speeds, so you *do* need a 2.4ghz Core 2 processor (which means R1's are probably not going to cut it). i7 640UM R2's are essentially the only one that comes close to meeting the requirements, and it's still 133mhz slower . I would expect ~ 60-70% of the game being playable, and high-pop or RAID areas to have significant slowdown on an R2, and even less on an R1. If FFXI is anything to compare too, even with a machine that has the minimum system requirements the game will run abysmally slow.

 

Yeah, I had checked in the boxes for "dual core" (some boxes don't give further detail about brand), but I didn't realize that the dual core family is larger than the core 2 duo brand... Well, the world came back to normal again XD

 

Phase 3 of the beta started today and the option to lower textures has become available as well as uncapping the FPS. Putting them at standard didn't make much of a difference compared to the previous beta, the fps from just watching they fraps counter showed little improvement but nothing outstanding. On lowest I saw a constant 20+ fps outside in areas I was getting 10-15 before and the highest I saw the whole night was 42 fps( in a isolated cave resting my health ).

The game and servers are really glitchy right now so as far as game play goes, I cant really give an opinion on it. Even with the higher FPS, because of the start of a new beta and all the lag and problems that come with it, the game seems harder to play.

This was all with no gpu overclock, cpu @158 mhz, and playing on an external monitor @ 1360 x 768. latest quadro drivers. Shadows off textures set to low.

I'm going to try to play with my GPU slightly overclocked (my pc doesn't like overclocking for too long on final fantasy) and on the m11x screen soon. Im hoping I can get it to a constant 30 fps outside. It's still early and they don't have many options as far as optimizing the graphics goes yet. Each beta they have added something new, so i expect more options come the release next month.

 

Played a little with my gpu overclocked to 500/1200/810 and the FPS change was pretty big. The cave where I saw 42 fps in went up to 52 standing around and about 40 average running/fighting. Outside in the main big area I saw around 23-25 average compared to 20-23 I was seeing before in the same areas.


this is from phase 2 without being able to lower textures or anything

This is the area that gets the 23-25 fps now. This along with the main town give me the most problems. Right now there are only 3 zones in the game, and two of them will rarely see 30 fps( i didnt check the town with the overclocked card but I doubt it reaches 30 fps consistently. I'd be happy with 20 fps atm.) The other area in the game that I just went around and ran through ran at 40-80 fps constantly running and looking around. It was on average 50 or so fps with the small hallways reaching up to 80 tops. I never went here in this version of the beta with fraps running so I can't compare this to anything.


phase 3 with textures on low


Obviously I can't really comment on how well the game is gonna run on the m11x come release date, right now it's playable but i'd be a lot happier if they add more options so the frame rates aren't so low in the zones with more things going on.

 

so you're basiclly ran the game at nearly playable FPS most of the time on a 335? that makes me feel better for my computer <_<

glad to see it looks decent even on low settings, but that high settings definitally give it a lot more bling.

 

My friend is playing on the G73 with maxed settings so the m17x will run it more then fine. I'm not sure if it supports crossfire yet though.

 

Wow that games just looks so bland whenever I see screenshots.
Hopefully it will look better on a desktop with more LOD.
I hate plains lol.

 

I'm assuming you've never seen FFXI before then lol? Also, the Beta is pretty limited, they only have a couple of areas to look at, so there's definitally more content we haven't seen. in either case, it's not trying to be all bling no sling like Aion, and not just bright colors flung everywhere and frankly over-the-top areas like WoW's theme is. FFXI was more or less trying to be photorealistc with acutal believeable terrain within the capabilities of the PS2, FFXIV is the same way, and it's totally within the theme of most FF games. A lot of Japanese games are like that.

 

the games zones aren't just going to be plains, if it's anything like XI it will start out as plains and move into different types of areas (snow, caves, jungles, forts, etc). Right now the plains are connected to a beach area and the zone in the second picture which is a cave like area has a lot of different things going on also.

 

yup, all the starting areas in XI are more or less very dull too. That might be just because of their 'starting' nature and trying not to overwhelm new players though.

 

says the guy who plays WoW. Bland? Those screenshots are amazing. Graphics wise, 14 graphics are a major improvement over FF11.

To OP, thanks for the screenshots and sharing your experience playing the beta with us. I cannot wait until September 22nd.

 

Hey there, been following this thread for awhile and I had a question so I made an account. As a future m11x owner and FFXIV player I was just kinda curious how much ram you have kg21vc15? If you only have 4GB do you or anyone else think 8GB would squeeze out enough FPS to make it worth the $300 dollar upgrade?

 

the 335gt has deticated ram, so adding system ram will not increase fps in any significant way. it will reduce loading times significantly but that's it.

 

i have 8 gb of ram and i dont know crap about pcs so I dont know if it would hekp. I would not buy the m11x for the sole purpose of playing ffxiv, if you already have it you can play it on it but the game isn't going to run at the prettiest settings or the most fluent in populated areas.

 

Thanks guys, much appreciated.

 

Hello,

I’m only getting an average 15 FPS while grinding, overally low FPS no matter what i'm doing. What’s odd is that I get the identical frame rates no matter what resolution; 1024x768 – 1366x768.

Running 258.94, no AA / AF, no shadows, everything low Optimus has ffxivgame.exe and ffxivboot.exe added for the 335M and appears to be functioning; the game wont even start with it disabled.

I should see a significant performance difference when switching from 1024x768 to 1366x768 no?

Anyone else in the beta mind downloading FRAPS to get some FPS?

 

I posted in your other thread, but I can't see it making a big difference. It would if you didn't have alot of VRAM, but you have twice the necessary amount. What's going on here is the lack of processor and GPU power. The good news is that it sounds like the M11x is right on the verge of playability, so after a few driver revisions FPS should improve, what you can do right now though is turn down some of the AA and texture quality settings in the nvidia control panel.

 

thanks.

I cannot find any other benchmark results that prove any of this.
Typically, benchmarks show the performance results at different resolutions. The performance is typically higher the lower the resolution. i.e. here is notebookcheck.com review of the m11x; looks similar to any PC performance review i've ever seen. Note the drastic change at different resolutions, just look at the resolutions used by 3dmark03 – 06 to have a better understanding.

Is there anyone else in the FFXIV beta noticing bad performance issues so far? I’ve benchmarked Crysis similar to the review quoted here and find it hard to believe FFXIV should run this low; no matter what the settings.I've even lowered the buffer to 1/2 with the same low frame rates...

 

crysis also has tons of driver improvments and years worth of tweaking, XIV is close to being as demanding as crysis, but because it has essentially *no* tweaking or driver improvements it's going to run very poorly for now. The Dev's just worry about getting the game out on time and making it look good first, final optimization (unfortunatly) is second on the list.

 

If anyone knows Square Enix from FFXI then this is typical from them. Looks like Open Beta is coming in 2 weeks so lets hope they had more graphical setting by then since that will be close to release product.

 

Bringing this thread back from the dead because I wanted to know how it has played on M11x so far (4 more days of waiting for mine) Don't expect amazing frames in the beta, people with amazing PCs are having frame rate issues. I know my desktop does regardless of what settings I have it on (Its a beefy PC, I don't want to ramble specs)

So yeah, for those of you who are reading these and trying to figure out how to increase your frame rate in the beta, don't bother. Supposedly the launch game will be a lot more polished.

 

Also resurrecting the thread with the final release version impending, making it more relevant...

Been playing the beta with an OC R2 i7, fps between 10-17, with what few settings we can change at the minimum (except resolution which is at native). Pretty abyssmal performance. I played FFXI for years on gaming rigs and resorted to using "illegal" windower mods just to be able to modify the resolution to something that didn't make my eyes bleed. SE is not good at, nor do they give a crap about, good PC game performance IMHO.

So, what I would like to know is, as you other cats who are playing the beta get your full versions, let the rest of us know if your FPS changes to something more playable. The game looks gorgeous right now, I admit (and at least you can choose real resolutions in this iteration). But if the full game lets me tweak the settings more, or is optimized, or whatever, to get a 25-ish FPS, I would consider buying the PC version.

Otherwise, I will have to wait for the PS3 one ;( And I hate my PS3.

 

in towns i only get 15-20 fps but outside fighting and roaming around i'm getting a fairly constant 40+ fps right now. Near populated crystals that drops to about 20-27.

OC r2 to 158, gpu at stock, textures lowest, physics off, shadows off, and res at 1024x768 in full screen mode.

It still looks better than most mmos with settings like that, obviously it's not amazing, but i'm more worried about being able to play the game than i am about how it looks.

I heard there's going to be more optimization for release, so hopefully I can switch to the normal m11x res and play at a constant 30+ fps with whatever settings im currently using.

 

do you have AO and DOF off? I played for a few hours and could never notice any sort of slow down at all. I did notice those two settings were real performance killers though.

 

Hi all,

below is the screen shot of FF14 benchmark result after running on M11xR2, i notice the end result still indicate Intel(R) HD Graphics... I already set in Nividia 3D setting for the FF14benchmark.exe.

How do i know it run on the GT335 ?

Please advise... Thanks

 

Remember gamebooster, 1024x768 resolution, fresh win7 install, ssd's, and remembering that your not playing on a desktop will all help the frames. Ultimately mmorpg's require net coding and net coding is done by processors. Since the m11xs processor is weaker then any other gaming laptops processor there you have it.

 

the release has about the same frame rates as the beta version. It does feel a lot more fluent because the servers seem more stable and the stuttering isn't happening as often.

 

agreed, even in super high pop areas it's not really noticeable.