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    M11x GPU overclocking help

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by hadou, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys!

    I have an important question: everything that I researched about overclocking the m11x is showing information about only the EVGA Precision use. The configurations showned in these sites that I researched utilizes other names than the names that my overclocking program uses.

    These sites, including this one, tell me about shader clock, gpu clock and memory clock. The fact is that I'm using Nvidia System Tools for Windows 7 instead of EVGA Precision (because of the practicality of that program, that fuses itself within the Nvidia Control Panel). In System Tools they don't tell me anything about Shader Clock or GPU Clock. The only settings that I can change in it are:

    Graphics Clock (112 Mhz to 900 Mhz)
    Memory Clock (197 Mhz to 948 Mhz)
    Processor Clock (270 Mhz to 2160 Mhz)

    This program is different from EVGA Precision regarding the settings that can be changed, although it is recommended too. So I will not change anything for I can damage my GPU.

    Can you guys explain me what are the differences between Shader Clock and Processor Clock, and Graphics Clock and GPU Clock, pliz? And after that, what settings should I use? Thanks!
     
  2. BeastRider

    BeastRider Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm no expert, but I'm about 75% sure that the only difference is how NVIDIA calls it as supposed to how EVGA calls it..Basically it's just the naming convention. Graphics clock and GPU clock to me sounds the same, and I'm guessing it is. Shader clock and processor clock I'm not sure though. Maybe wait for someone here to confirm what I've just said.
     
  3. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Thx for the fast reply :D , that is what I am thinking too, but I preffer to not risk. I shall wait for other answers too. Nvidia and its habits...
     
  4. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Really?? No one knows? Only Beast Rider could (or wanted to) help me? :/
     
  5. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    sorry man, i was gonna reply earlier but was busy, to achieve a stable overclock you need to increase the gpu core, shader, and memory by increments of 7-10. then test for stability using a program called OCCT. if its stable, up the clocks more, and test again. do this til you get errors, then back down 5mhz from the clocks you got errors from, it takes a lot of time. but its worth it.
     
  6. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks Ajslay for your reply, and no problem dude, but my question is: are the Shader and the GPU clocks equivalent to Processor and Graphic clocks on Nvidia settings, respectively? My problem are the names that Nvidia uses in it's configurations.
     
  7. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    pretty much, processor clock and gpu clock are the same i think.

    if that clock is stock 450mhz then thats the core clock. or processor clock.
    the shader clock helps things like HDR and bloom while in game.
     
  8. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    The Graphic clock is at stock 450 Mhz, but below this there is an option called Processor clock, and it is at 1080 Mhz at stock. I am pretty confused :confused:...
     
  9. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    ooohhhh the processor clock your referring to is the shader clock :D the shader clock stock is 1080mhz
     
  10. i has m11x

    i has m11x Notebook Evangelist

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    The processor clock is the shader clock. The graphics clock is the gpu core clock.
     
  11. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Hahaha yea :D . I was almost uninstalling this and getting EVGA. Thanks for your answers dude!

    Thanks man :D . Finally I can test some settings here.
     
  12. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    no problem at all, if you want more overclocking headroom just install the bios with the voltage mod. that brings the voltage from 0.9v to 0.95v.
     
  13. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Yea, I saw the topic and I'm very very tempted to do it, but...wont it reduce my GPU lifespan? If no then I'm just installing this mod noww.
     
  14. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    thats very rare. the lifespan will be just fine as long as you keep the temp under control. i was the tester for the mod, and it works fine. and i also never run stock clocks, 100% of the time i run 605/926/1510
     
  15. kfruit

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    @ajslay When testing for stability with OOCT what what level of shader complexity to you use?
     
  16. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    What a excitement going through my veins! Fuc# yea, I will install the MOD o/. Downloading 3DMark06 first. Later ajslay!
     
  17. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    i usually set the shader complexity to 2.

    @hadou
    you will see a good gain in overclockability but you wont see much of a gain. its the cpu in the R1 thats holding the gpu back. a simple pinmod would fix everything. (atleast in 3dmark06)
     
  18. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Ummm nice, but mine is R2, so there is no problem with GPU going back don't? I'm a noob yea hehehe.
     
  19. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    lmao, whoops. i thought you had an r1 for a second. someone else is pming me about the same subject, but they have an R1. got them mixed up. you will see a nice boost. the r2 cpu isnt holding anything back.
     
  20. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Haha yea, happens. Uhuull nice dude, thx!
     
  21. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    no problem. post back with your new 3dmark results =p
     
  22. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Last Benchmark result without ThrottleStop or GPU OCing (CPU OC'ed to 166 at BIOS): 6915.

    Benchmark after MOD BIOS A03, GPU OC'ed to GPU 550/ Mem 790/ Shad 1320, CPU OC'ed to 166 at BIOS and ThrottleStop: 8269. Remembering that this score was achieved with the basic version of the 3DMark06, with resolution at 1280 x 768, no AA, etc.

    Is this a secure setting? Won't it damage my GPU? Well, IMO 8269 was a great score, I don't expected that much oO. I tried a lot of setting combinations and got a lot of BSOD before reach this stability. Hope it stay in this way!

    EDIT:
    This configuration was unstable. I don't know why it worked for the first time at 3D Mark without BSOD, but I will try to down a bit this setting and I will report here. =/
     
  23. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Posting new results:

    Benchmark: 8148.

    531/790/1305.

    Nice, but I want my 8269 back :S.
     
  24. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    you need to increase the memory clock too. and thats not a bad score. my R1 is scoring an 8056 right now.
     
  25. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    You could use SetPLL to overclock the CPU beyond 166 and get more then 8269 back.
     
  26. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Hey Davy, thanks for the BIOS MOD dude! Great work.

    Regarding the CPU OC, I preffer to don't do it right now, because I fear that it can damage my CPU, once Alienware limited the OC in BIOS to the maximum of 166 Mhz.

    But I made some adjusts on my Nvidia OC settings and I'm getting right now a stable (at least for now) score of 8252 in benchmark o/.

    By the way, my settings now are 500/870/1260.
     
  27. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    nice.

    also, you cant damage your cpu by useing setpll. the only wa to damage it would be if your not monitoring your temps, and they get to high.
     
  28. hadou

    hadou Notebook Consultant

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    Haha funny avatar! Family Guy rlz.

    Well, but it decreases my CPU lifespan don't?
     
  29. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    it wont decrease lifespan if temps are ok, and its stable =p.
    and yeah family guy ownz. im only 17, been watching it since i was little haha.
    its been on for about 10 years now.
     
  30. abcxyz91

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    What is the safe and stable OC for GPU to start without Modded Bios? I just don't wanna risk anything :-?
     
  31. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    there is no "safe" stable overclock for everyone. everyones gpu is different. you need to do stability testing to find out what *your* maximum stable overclock is.