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    M11x & Cataclysm

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by CheeseFrog, Jan 10, 2011.

  1. CheeseFrog

    CheeseFrog Notebook Enthusiast

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    Specifically Tol Barad in heavy raid vs. raid PvP situations. Does anybody have slow-down issues on their R2? Can yall play without any client-based lag? I'm seeing a lot of choppiness when a lot of players are on screen at the same time. No OC, no ThrottleStop though.
     
  2. Jose331

    Jose331 Notebook Enthusiast

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    What are your settings? I'm running a R1 on high and have been doing AVs and raids with no problem at all. The only time I really get slowdown is when I log into Ogrimar and it loads all of the players. I do play on a high pop server so there are dozens upon dozens of players in ogrimar now.

    As a note, make sure you have shadows turned down, that is always a performance killer.
     
  3. CheeseFrog

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    ROFL I totally forgot about shadows. I remember I was messing around with the display settings (usually set most of them to medium'ish) and I increased the Shadow Detail but forgot to set it back. I'll try it again tonight and see if that does the trick.
     
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    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Shadows and lighting... the bane of games.... turn them off and the R1 will run practically everything in spades that isn't CPU bound. It's such a drop in quality its hard to not want them on though. Post-Processing is the other killer now, along with Ambient Occlusion.
     
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    Shadows are so poorly implemented in wow that there's no perceptible errosion in quality when lowering the setting. But there are huge performance increases (200-300% in some areas).
     
  6. Jose331

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    I had shadows on Ultra for a bit just to see how it was when out mining on my R1. I will say that the ultra shadows did make for some cool tentacle shadows when flying around that big sarlacc pit out in Twilight Highlands. However, this came at the price of some choppiness when making quick camera adjustments and 20-30 FPS loss overall.

    So if my R1 with 2GB of memory can run Cata on high then your R2 should have no problem.

    As a note, cataclysm and the black Friday sale were what finally convinced me to buy an M11x. I’ve leveled to 85 on it and played for far too many hours. It’s been an absolute dream to play wow on.
     
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    flanders Notebook Consultant

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    I run my R1 on Ultra with no problems--although I'm certainly not in the high-traffic areas (new player.)
     
  8. CheeseFrog

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    I'm not at home right now, so I can't say for sure, but I'm betting it's my shadow detail. However, I'm still wondering if I'm running into a CPU bottleneck when there's 6 full raids (240 total players) going head to head in the same BG. Obviously not all of them are on my screen at the same time, but sometimes I'll get a screen of maybe 80 players (two full raids) duking it out for ICG/WV/SW control in Tol Barad that slows my system.
     
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    I play on Ultra and shadows on low
     
  10. CheeseFrog

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    Every have any low-FPS issues in raid vs raid PVP?
     
  11. danyune

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    this argument came up before time and time again and it concluded that everyone has different FPS needs

    there will be the woes that require 100fps or else they can't play, then there's those that only need like 15 to say it's satisfactory

    Truth to the matter is that the m11x performs well when solo, as does any machine. When more bodies come into the equation such as a busy city or a raid with many effects, FPS will take a hit. It will not be a sustained smooth FPS, even at minimum everything

    I was getting 93fps in ironforge with minimum everything, native resolution. That is not an average that is a pretty high peak. Usually it would hover around 80fps

    To increase it just also play genuine full screen, not windowed-->full screen. There actually is a difference and you will notice it.
     
  12. Allamar

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    I am happy with the M11x performance in Tol Barad. I even play it on an external monitor at 1080p. I have the R2 and I keep it overclocked at 162.

    Most of my settings are high, except for shadows and particle effects. In the raids and big pvp fights the particle effects will slow it down when everyone is casting spells.

    I get about 25-30ish fps in big fights.

    Honestly my old desktop that had a quad core 2.4ghz and a 9800Gt didnt play it that much better, so the m11x works for me.
     
  13. Scottyballs

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    I never played raid vs raid PVP Im sure it would slow with other players on the screen I would probly just keep droping the settings till I was happy with the FPS.. Im just a level 42 so Im still kinda new to WOW..
     
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    Ok, i have played WoW big pvps, on a decently populated server. I get an average of 50-60fps with most settings on max except shadows and water. Also if you want to improve fps even more turn down viewing distance.
     
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    I have no problems of FPS drops with the large-scale PvP in Tol Barad on my R2 without overclocking at all. Running with shadows on Medium and view distance 1 notch down from the maximum -- everything else is on max except for water detail, which I changed because of the video card issue :eek:
     
  16. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    I use my m11x r1 for probably 90% of my wow game play and I have zero lag with wow. Whether Im raiding BH, doing dailies, in a heroic, battling for TB, or running around the city I get zero lag or stuttering. Have you reformatted your r1? Mine ran pretty good on the OEM install but did see some lag here and there, but once I reformatted all was well.

    edit: Settings are medium+/- and native res with view distance maxed.
     
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    discothan Notebook Guru

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    Also turn down spell effects. I'm on R1 with almost all settings at LOW. I rely on frames in Vudhu as well as GTFO and DBM to alert me to whats happening around me and to my raid. Stand out of dust/fire/tornado/green stuff is what I'm doing most of the time when I look at the screen.

    There is a dramatic increase in hps/dps inside a 25m with things turned down to a minimum. Really.....who is paying attention to all the details of the graphical environment Blizzard created when you are trying to down a boss or pvp the other faction.
     
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    Wow, I just updated to the beta drivers on Nvidia's site (the ones with the supposed punkbuster fix) and can't believe what a HORRIBLE difference they've made in WoW :mad:

    I get stuttering everywhere now, even when I'm the only person on screen. Don't have time to revert to old drivers and test right now, but I'd definitely wait if you're considering updating.
     
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    You guys were right, it was my shadow detail which was maxed lol. Damn I didn't know it would make that big of a diff! Thanks!
     
  20. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    Shadows are a huge tax on the GPU. Not surprised that was the culprit.