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    Loving the Mx11 r2 - Adobe Premiere CS5 is solid

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DigDung, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. DigDung

    DigDung Notebook Geek

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    Understandably, most posts are focusing on problems with the Mx11, but I just thought I would throw it out to the outside viewer that this laptop for many people is an incredible compromise between powerhouse and ultra-portable. I have been using it with an external monitor, and by using throttle-stop, and the built in OC ability it has been able to really push out some incredible performance in the Adobe Suite.

    Specifically Premiere Pro lately and not sure if others are using it, but after a little hack to the

    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5\cuda_supported_cards.txt

    file, adding "GeForce GT 335M" (case sensitive as the thread I read mentioned)

    it is using the mercury engine with no problem and this machine is perfect for video edditing.

    (also running the beta 266 drivers, GTA4 has a little problem, but everything else is gold right now for me)

    Just thought some good news might be ok every once in a while..
     
  2. BranMuffin

    BranMuffin Notebook Consultant

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    I totally agree with you. I primarily use photoshop and illustrator however only once in a while will it hang up. Whats ur build for your m11x r2?
     
  3. dragon23

    dragon23 Notebook Consultant

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    Can you explain the hack a little more in detail, I'm using CS4 and am very curious in improving performance. Thanks.
     
  4. DigDung

    DigDung Notebook Geek

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    Hey if anyone else out there has some CS4/CS5 tweeks, please let me know as well!

    In premeire, I realized that the option in the "project > settings" option was greyed out saying "software rendering", did a little digging and realized that if you dont add your exact graphics card to the .txt file I listed before, it will not allow you to run the Hardware mercury engine.. I think this works for the CS4 at some level as well, the site listed both. I'm still looking to see if there are any tweeks for the other CS5 programs- I have a feeling there are but kind of searching as I need to use the tools. the default list of cards in Premiere was really small, so wouldn't be suprized if there are other tweeks.

    :eddit: Also, it threw me off at first with premiere, as the Nvidia utility said that Premiere was using the GPU, but without the hardware accel turned on, it most definitely was not using the GPU like it should..

    Note: I believe there is a minimum ram reqirement for your Nvidia card of 512mb or more

    :eddit: also, if you dont have the same gfx card, there is a .exe called gpusniffer or something like that which will give you the exact name of your GPU in the same adobe premeire folder, the name you add to the text file will be listed after "CUDA device name" or something close to that when you run gpusniffer from the command promt.. Sorry I can't find the original post.. hope this helps

    R2, icore 7 um (OC to 150, running TS on 32/64), 4 gig ram 500 gb HD and no bluetooth (wasnt an option durring that time). Running a wacom intuos 3, logitech laser mouse of some sort that I got on discount, xbox controller and a USB Hub packed with way too much B/S to consider.. Also got the lappy sitting on a cooler, put rubber sticky feet under the front side just behind the speaker holes, so the speaker holes below the CPU ram get a little more airflow..seems that ram heat is the weak point, may or may not help..
    Occasionally I will hang if in premiere if I try and do to much, but I am also loading data from an external 1tb drive that holds the HD footage, so lag hangs are expected for me. I do make sure the defaults for the Adobe cache files point to the internal drive in the Mx11
     
  5. DigDung

    DigDung Notebook Geek

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    One other thought with Photoshop, CS5 you only seem to have a setting for normal or advanced in the settings, advanced says it will push the GPU more, CS4 had some bad lag issues for me, and it could be corrected by disabling most of the antialias, etc settings.. google it and you will find people figured out a few tricks that made a huge difference in courser jumping/lag, even on very high end systems which were having issues..
     
  6. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Good post - I don't use Photoshop but this clearly will help if I do and anyone else that does on the M11x-R2.

    +1 Rep
     
  7. drsqueggy

    drsqueggy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm using Premiere on my R1 and it runs like a dream! These laptops make great portable video editing machines.

    Check out my latest surfing edit, this was edited using Premiere on my R1.

    Pembrokeshire 02/01/11 on Vimeo
     
  8. DigDung

    DigDung Notebook Geek

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    nice!- wish I was near the ocean.. and on the south side of the equator!
     
  9. dragon23

    dragon23 Notebook Consultant

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    thanks digdung repped!
     
  10. DigDung

    DigDung Notebook Geek

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    Suuweeet- glad I could be usefull lol
     
  11. Arak-Nafein

    Arak-Nafein Notebook Consultant

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    Did anyone actually benchmark it against having the CUDA stuff disabled?


    When I tried this on my CS5 Premiere, the options showed up, and I could select the GPU acceleration(The timeline area even had the yellow bar across the top like it's supposed to, indicating it was active)......but rendering a video took the same amount of time with or without GPU acceleration. It also didn't help with layers. I added layers until it got choppy realtime playback, then I enabled GPU acceleration & realtime playback was still choppy.


    I can tell a definite difference when I do this on my workstation with a quadro card.....but on the M11X I cannot tell a difference between GPU acceleration disabled & enabled. Even with the "hack".


    I'm wondering if you guys are having a placebo effect?
     
  12. DigDung

    DigDung Notebook Geek

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    Actually you do have a point.. However for me the playback in editing is where I am seeing a boost, not so much in encoding. Are you using the same encoding format on both systems? From what I understand, encoding using the GPU is dependent on the format that you use, and the effects being supported (encoding format must be using the CUDA H.264/AVC format)

    One plugin I'm looking at is "MainConcept codec pack for CS5" ver 5.1. It seems to be making a difference for people on the encoding side, but still just figuring out the in & outs of the hardware support myself, I'll keep posting as I figure more out..

    check out
    Adobe Forums: Using CUDA to render video ?

    :edit: wow this is a really informative article on tom's hardware.. It has a pic walkthru of the hack/tweek I talked about, and a lot of GPU/CPU benchmarks.
    Adobe CS5: 64-bit, CUDA-Accelerated, And Threaded Performance : How Should You Accelerate Adobe?

    ..but aside from all that, the playback in editing is much cleaner with the GPU, so I don't need to keep encoding to see the finished product for proofing. If I switch to the software mode in editing, there is a huge difference in editing lag for me
     
  13. Arak-Nafein

    Arak-Nafein Notebook Consultant

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    Ah, yes. That explains it. Reading the thread you posted, the people are saying the GPU acceleration doesn't affect the rendering of h264.....which is what I was using for my tests.
     
  14. Arklight

    Arklight Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't seem to make the 335m run the Mercury.

    Steps I followed:
    Added GeForce GT 335M in cuda_supported text file
    Went to Nvidia Control Panel to change multi-display whatever to Compatibility Performance Mode

    What am I missing. Help?
     
  15. DigDung

    DigDung Notebook Geek

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    seems like that should be it.. CS4 or CS5? also, if you check in the settings is it still on software? also try making sure your nvidia settings are to NVidia GPU for default.. (now running the new 266.xxx WHQL drivers.. still working fine for me.. any nfo you can give would help..
    :edit: also try right clicking the premiere .exe and choosing to run with the nvidia to eliminate that..
     
  16. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    +1 thanks for sharing :)
     
  17. qtjoel

    qtjoel Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey guys, so I have an m11x R2 and premiere (cs5) keeps crashing on me when I playback. I don't know what it is. I checked for a bunch of solutions and none seem to work. I even tried the hack and that didn't seem to help either. With that said, I posted it on the discussion at Adobe: Adobe Forums: Premiere CS5 playback crashes...
    and the guy didn't really help saying that all the specs I have don't fit the minimum requirements. I mean...The only things I didn't get when specing my m11x was an SSD, but still why the crap does it keep freezing on me when I playback the video?! PLEASE HELP. The full details are in the adobe link I provided above.
     
  18. werewolfery

    werewolfery Notebook Geek

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    when i first got my R2 i tried to use phtoshop CS4 and it was awfull so i thought well i can go back to CS3 thinking it would imrpove things but sadly no... but then i got a free trial of CS5 and i thought ill give it a try... not only did it work but it worked bloody great... im amazed at how good this system is
     
  19. qtjoel

    qtjoel Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's the thing, I downloaded the trial version and it's still giving me problems!