I got my R2 panel replaced and the Hardware ID says SEC5441. What make is this?

Is this the old original R1 panel? Or some new third make and model?

Thanks!

 

I think samsung.

 

Pretty sure both versions have had both, but then one you got is less common in both cases.

 

Do a search on notebookcheck.com for its specs. I also posted them along with AOU's specs on page 2 of the ICC profile thread here.

 

Well according to other threads in another forums here at Notebook review, it looks as if this model is an LED panel. So that gives me a lot of hope. It is a Samsung as well. Which makes me feel a lot better as well as I feel their quality has drastically improved putting them on par with Sony.

So maybe with a proper calibration, I can get this panel how I want it.

Thanks for the help.

 

THX please post your thoughts on the Samsung. Did you have the AUO before? If so did yours have a blue or cool tint? Does the new samsung have this same issues?

 

For the most part I believe Samsung and other companies make the LCD panels for Sony. I think there are only a few exceptions.

 

In short, No. The Samsung is much much better. But, please, take that with a grain of salt as I never got a chance to check the Hardware ID of the other panel, so for all I know it was the same make.

The main difference I believe is that when I went into Color Management, I found that the panel already had a modified profile listed as "Calibrated".

To be specific it lists as: "CalibratedDisplayProfile-3"

Now when I had the original panel, I spent so much time messing with overclocking and dealing with crashes that I didn't really get a chance to take in the display. What I mainly noticed is, I run a solid black background because I hook the unit up to a Pioneer Kuro which is Plasma so I'm paranoid about burn in. And on the old panel the blacks did not look black but washed out. And the viewing angle was horrible. But it was just immediately displeasing to the eye if you're used to looking at good panels all the time.

So, when the new one was installed, it immediately "felt" better. It clearly had, as I initially thought, been properly calibrated as a replacement.

Now, for the last few days I wasn't really gaming on this thing, but testing overclocking settings and temps and seeing whether I was getting any better results overclocking - (Not for my CPU, GPU a little but I'm still trying to find the stable settings. The best improvement has been disabling Powermeiser. Major increase in fps) -

As well as testing gaming performance on my secondary monitor. But when I did play on the panel, I was still kinda not feeling like it was living up to what it should.

And then I read AnandTech's review and the reviewers dislike of the display riled up my initial reaction and my head started going back to the first night the unit arrived and how much I disliked the display on first impression, but, I wasn't really thinking about the new one.

So tonight, after finally settling on not overclocking anything and just disabling Powermeiser, I started to focus on the display. And I was considering returning the unit and waiting for a revision with a better display,

Until...


I see Slickie's calibration thread. And after reading that thread I go and check my Hardware ID and see that I do have a genuine LED display used in Dell's higher end netbooks of same size, and made by Samsung no less;

And immediately my buyer's remorse began to subside. So then I thought okay, I have a decent panel for the size, maybe it just needs a good calibration. So while I have my home theater calibration specialist on email about to set up an appointment (The company he works for is the best in the biz. Avical. I highly recommend them)

At the same time I'm emailing him, I go into my Color Management settings and see that the panel is already set to the aforementioned calibrated profile.

So then I took a "good look"
at the panel and could see that the colors looked accurate and the blacks were better. I tried Slickie's profile just for kicks and everything was a washed out grey. There was a factory profile for the panel that seemed almost identical to the one mentioned above, before I settled on that default setting. I knew something was off but I wasn't sure what, and then it hit me.

I'm used to Plasma's, I never use LCD's except for this and my other laptop, and I remembered that LCD's have limited viewing angles and that you have to find the right one.

I also applied thomas's suggestion of upping the saturation from 0-10 and also got the same desirable results from that.

So after fiddling with the angle of the display and my seat, I manged to find the premium viewing angle and...

WOW! So much better! Is it the best display I've ever seen? No. But it is one that is crisp and vibrant and color accurate and worthy of the amount of money I paid and what the unit is capable of.

Sorry for the book, but I kinda wanted to explain my thought process so as not to confuse any panel owners of the other model and have them thinking they're lacking anything. I don't believe that's the case.

Bottom line:

Yes this Samsung is much better than the other one, but I'm attributing that to it already having a calibrated profile and not because of Hardware or manufacturing.

While it is better and now all my buyers remorse is gone and I'm really really happy with the unit, I still say the viewing angle on this new panel is also very limiting and I have to have the panel angled and sitting just right to get a worthy PQ.

I tested this playing back various clips of Star Wars films on the panel and at the same time on my Kuro which is calibrated to be reference accurate and the colors were identical to my eye.

I also tested it on Mass Effect 2 and Modern Warfare 2 with the same pleasing results.

All in all, I'm now completely satisfied with my purchase and will be keeping the unit.

Now, my only problem with the M11x is Just Cause 2 won't play, but that's driver wide on all 300m series chips, not just the M11x. Waiting on Nvidia to fix it.

So, my suggestion for panel owners of the other model is to try the calibration profiles on the threads here or get it professionally calibrated, and

just keep fiddling with your viewing angle. It's narrow as hell, but it's there.

Hope that helps anyone else out there. Thanks for reading.

Cheers

 

Wow, THX5334. Great post!

It's VERY interesting that it had an ICC profile associated with it, especially given the fact that it was a replacement panel. My guess is that device manager detected it much like it would an external monitor and installed drivers for it automatically. Does Device manager show it as a Generic PnP monitor or does it specify another name?

The picture quality of my AUO is the one thing I'm not pleased with on my R2. Would love to see the Samsung panel in person in order to compare side by side. The Screen ID thread from a month or two ago showed the two panels side-by-side and the consensus there was that the differences were rather minor. The SEC5441 was brighter with worse black levels compared to the AUO.

In any event I'm glad yours is such an improvement!

P.S. Very jealous of your Pioneer Kuro! Very renown for their creamy smooth black levels. Didn't they retire the line not long ago? I do my own HDTV calibrations since I have access to the kit required to do so. Considered doing that for a living for a while back in the day.

 

I just ran the Windows 7 Monitor Calibration wizard and it produced an ICC profile named similarly to yours. That's... odd.

 

Maybe that's all it is?

It seems better, there's also another profile that came with it, I'll double check and get back. I probably selected the wrong one. There was 2 when I first checked.

So maybe it's not a true calibration then? I seem to like it better. But for all I know it's in my head without a side by side comparison.

Yeah, I love my Kuro. I actually have 2. The 60" Elite and the 50" 5020. They're our luxury item. I'm super bummed they stop making them but Panasonic not only got the technology, but some Kuro engineers as well. So here's hoping the tech continues.

They make the greatest gaming displays.

 

Was that new profile active? Also do you have the invoice for the part replacement? I need that Dell part number so I can request the Samsung model.

 

Has anyone got anywhere swapping out their AUO for another panel? I am currently in an email conversation with Dell about the rubbish viewing angle on the AUO105C to maybe get a replacement.

 

I'll be very surprised if Dell replaces the panel simply because you don't like the limitations of the panel. They've used the AUO in all of their 11.6" notebook models.

 

my lcd is touching the keyboard and tech support wants to replace the complete lcd assembly as well as the keyboard. Not sure if i want to got through all that mess as the hinge is not having any issues. I would much rather wait 5-6 months and then have it replaced. I wonder if i can push to have the samsung panel put in but either way neither panels will fix the damn hinge issue many have experienced.

 

It's quite possible that replacing the LCD assembly and keyboard won't fix the key contacting the screen issue.

 

I am sure it will not fix the issue as Dell has done nothing to fix the issue but to keep replacing lcd assembly's if you keep Bi*tching about it


HEY OP...Did you have any issues with your screen and keyboard touching and getting imprints of your keyboard on the screen...Did it get better with the new lcd assembly

 

Yeah, I guess I just felt like moaning at them