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    Huge drop in FPS

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by KratosX7, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. KratosX7

    KratosX7 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    When it's getting crowded in League of Legends the FPS is dropping from 60 to 20. The funny thing is that I didn't had this 1.5 week ago.

    I use Throttle Stop too but now that doesn't seem to help.

    Anyone has a solution?
     
  2. Xaser04

    Xaser04 Notebook Consultant

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    Has anything changed on your system between now and then (New drivers, software installed / uninstalled, Game patches, Tweaks, GPU overclocking)?

    Drops in FPS when in heavy action scenes sounds normal (generally speaking) but as you havn't had this before then something has happened.

    My normal suggestions (although you have already tried these) is to try running everything stock and seeing what happens. If this doesn't work then try the normal system optimisations (defrag, crap cleaner, Anti virus run etc).

    If this still doesn't help then try running MSI afterburner (or EVGA precision) in the background to monitor temperatures and GPU clocks to see if something is causing throttling (GPU dropping to 405/972/652 from 450/1080/1590).

    Unfortunately I never owned or played the game you refer to so can only try to help in a general sense.
     
  3. tonycar

    tonycar Notebook Enthusiast

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    this is happening to me in black ops. i get around 70-100 fps and then all of a sudden i drop to 20 fps.

    i also recently installed throttlestop.
     
  4. roxxor

    roxxor Notebook Evangelist

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    Sounds like GPU downclocking.
     
  5. TalonH

    TalonH Notebook Evangelist

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    It honestly sounds like something is getting to hot and it's throttling.
     
  6. mohaa7

    mohaa7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Sometimes performance greatly slows down when your laptop is infected with virus after visiting some sites (e.g. crack/serial/keygen sites). I suggest you to first try a complete virus scan.

    Other thing you can do is to try uninstalling graphic driver COMPLETELY and reinstall a fresh one. Because drop in laptop performance depends on so many things, it is really difficult to determine which is the factor. It may be the case that your HDD is fragmented a lot or it may be the case that you are running on your Intel HD graphic card instead of NVIDIA due to optimus failure or something.
     
  7. KratosX7

    KratosX7 Notebook Consultant

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    Yer I guess it happened after I used throttlestop since I installed that 1.5 week ago. What should I do?
     
  8. BranMuffin

    BranMuffin Notebook Consultant

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    I use throttle stop no oc on gpu and get 90 fps league of legends and a low of 60. even during a 5v5 team fight. m11x r2 and max settings except for shadow. they are off. benchmark on fps too.
     
  9. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Why not run a ThrottleStop log file and a GPU-Z log file while gaming so you can see what your CPU and GPU are up to. The only way to fix a problem is to first find out what that problem is. The log files will show how hot things are getting and if either the CPU or GPU are throttling. What do you have the ThrottleStop Force TDP / TDC option set to? Are you overclocking the CPU in the bios? If you go too high with your overclock, the bios can reset it back to the default 133 MHz BCLK speed without your knowledge instead of your overclocked speed. If you're having troubles, post some data and some screen shot pictures so we can help you out. For any problem there is always a reason.
     
  10. KratosX7

    KratosX7 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for your post but it could it be that something is just too hot and it needs to cool down (by turning my m11x off)?
     
  11. Xaser04

    Xaser04 Notebook Consultant

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    If you run it stock (no OC and not using throttlestop beyond default values) does the problem persist? If not then throttling is occuring (CPU clock dropping due to thermal threshold being breached).

    Turning it off will only temporarily help in this scenario as it will only keep occuring.
     
  12. roxxor

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    When's the last time you hoovered the fan? That's the first thing I'd do in this situation to be honest.
     
  13. KratosX7

    KratosX7 Notebook Consultant

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    That might be it. never done that :p Gone do it now

    Fan is in the top left corner right? That seems clean

    Also Windows told me it was something with this:
    sysdata.xml
    WERINTERNALMETADATA.xml
    Video error

    Anyone know what to do with this?


    It might also be a driver issue. What Nvidia driver should I download? And should I remove the old driver first? If so, how do I do that?
     
  14. roxxor

    roxxor Notebook Evangelist

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    yes, no, 260.99, no
     
  15. DivineAura

    DivineAura Notebook Evangelist

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    try the 265.90? you can play punkbuster supported games and your laptop runs cooler! :D
     
  16. roxxor

    roxxor Notebook Evangelist

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    265 makes your laptop run cooler?? Is there actually any evidence for that?
     
  17. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    This may only apply to the R1, but I was experiencing this with an M11x I just bought, and it was driving me nuts. In my case when I disabled speedstep and had the system oc'd I saw this behavior. Leaving it oc'd and without speedstep things worked very well and the drops stopped (whew).

    I do believe heat is the issue here with throttling happening to protect the chip.

    On my M17x I followed the steps to stop the core-parking and it was the difference between night and day; no overclocking though on the i7 820QM :(
     
  18. Xaser04

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    Could you please clarify what you mean here?

    You say you dissabled speedstep and you had the problem yet when leaving it overclocked without speedstep it was fine. To me that sounds like the same thing.

    Do you mean in the second scenario you left speedstep on?
     
  19. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    @Xsaser04

    There are two settings in the BIOS on the R1, one for enable/disable speedstep, the other for overclocking enable/disable.

    I am rusty on the tech details now for PC overclocking, but as I understand it the speedstep raises and lowers the clocks to save power, but this doesn't affect the highest speed of the chip (set by a multiplier from the Front Side Bus), that is where the overclocking comes in (a higher multiplier for the CPU from the FSB speed). The two combined I believe were creating a heat problem and the CPU was throttling for safety. Like I say, I am rusty on all the exact details now, but I think this covers the basics.
     
  20. miXwui

    miXwui Notebook Consultant

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    Same thing happens to me when I'm playing LoL, weird cause I have powermizer settings set to not decrease on overheat, etc.