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    Games that wont work on the m11x

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by Bushman87, May 20, 2010.

  1. Bushman87

    Bushman87 Notebook Guru

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    Hey guys. I havent found much on games that wont work on the m11x and just thought for potential buyers it might be interesting to know.

    I havent received my m11x yet, getting it in a couple of days. Cant wait its gonna be awesome! Been prowling these forums everyday since I ordered it...

    I know that cpu intensive games wont work but what are cpu intensive games?

    The only games that I know wont work so well is shattered horizon and any console emulated games.

    Has anyone found other games that wont run on the m11x? For simplicity just stick to the native resolution. The level of the graphics doesnt matter. I want to know if the game wont run at all.

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. tears

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    Basically, the more heads you have on screen, the more CPU the game will use.
     
  3. IKAS V

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    Mostly RTS's are going to run into trouble on the m11x
     
  4. AtolSammeek

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    I think one game that might tax it some is Civilaztion 4. It not gpu type game. It more turn base and when you have tons of things going around the computer controling 17 AI. around the year 1800 the whole world has been map out.

    But I dont think the game will work fine with the m11x
     
  5. Bendak

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    There's nothing taxing about Civ 4, it'll work fine on the M11x. Heck, even Empire Total War - arguably the most demanding RTS works perfectly on the M11x.
     
  6. DrGoodvibes

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    Poor little M11x. Everybody keeps on beating up on you.

    It'd have to be some game to 'bust' the CPU.

    If it's bursting CPU and not intense real time expecting ms response, I can't see any problems. At worst it'll just be a bit slower.

    If the posted specs for Civilization 4 are to be believed it's a walk in the park for the M11x. Or you could literally be in the park playing it.

    Civilization 4 requirements
    Windows 2000/XP/Vista
    1.2 GHz Processor
    256 MB RAM
    1.7 GB free space
    4x DVD Drive
    DirectX 9.0c –compatible 64 MB video card with hardware T&L & pixel shader
    DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card

    A search engine lookup on just about any game in conjunction with M11x will return an answer these days.

    Mind you I'd be interest in the Dwarf Fortress game ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_Fortress ) because the whole concept just seems mental. Any ASCII display (latest version 2010) always raises an eye-brow with an old dog who remembers VT100 terminals cia 1985.

    It should also push the M11x a bit or at least the fan.
     
  7. Hobgoblinpie

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    I'd say that GTA IV is pretty CPU intense, and not sure how well that'd run on the M11x, but I expect that'd be pretty taxing on it.
     
  8. ebondefender

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    I tried Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl on mine. That seems to slow it down a tad when maxing out the settings. I killed some of the shadow effects on mine and made the fps nice and smooth. I'd like to try FakeFactory's HD Cinematic Mod for Half Life 2 and see how it takes that...
     
  9. Bendak

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    Civ 4 was released back in 2005 before dual core CPUs were produced so it is laughable to even suggest that it would struggle on the M11x. Games that probably don't work too well are Shattered Horizon (Too CPU intensive), GTA4 (Bad game with equally bad optimization) and Arma 2.
     
  10. stevenxowens792

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    Everyone, I can plany ETW off an external HD. The SSD smoked on ETW. I mean high to highest details at native rez. It works just fine.. now.. games that I consider unplayable so far...

    ARMA 2 - yes I could get it to run but when you have loads of players or single player missions with 10 plus folks on the screen it goes down to 12-13fps.

    ARMA 1 - Depends on the number of players on the screen. High details on single player are fine, however have 20 to 30 folks on the screen and you are crawling.

    Red Faction - Guerilla Warfare - I downloaded and ran this game with every optimization I had. I even closed explorer.exe and ran steam from the tasklist. Still plays like crap.

    Well, that is my unplayable list so far. I have installed and test loads of games. I even benched some games off external hd like Dawn of war 2, stalker cop, wings or prey, etc...

    Best Wishes,

    StevenX
     
  11. ebondefender

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    @stevenxowens792,

    Dang, Red Faction 3 won't work?? Good thing I have it on the PS3 :) I'll settle for RF 1 and 2 on my laptop
     
  12. Partizan

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    How about assassins creed 1 & 2?
     
  13. fyro11

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    How about SupCom 1 and 2?

    Thanks.
     
  14. juan_carlos

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    civ 4 works fine, i play it all the time and thats on integrated graphics too..
     
  15. stevenxowens792

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    Supreme Commander 2 I have installed on my SSD (main drive). It runs on highest details (everything enabled, shadows, etc) with 2Xaa. Over 40fps most times. Now.. I have NOT had a chance to play long enough to go through full large scale battle. So I wont swear to those settings until I have the chance. Several weeks ago I installed SC1 and it worked fine as well on high settings.

    Best Wishes,

    StevenX
     
  16. stevenxowens792

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    Ebon- I was talking about Red Faction Guerrilla Warfare. Whichever RF that is, number wise...

    Best Wishes,

    StevenX
     
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    Crysis on max setting and 8x AA. Oh wait, that won't run on anything.
     
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    Haha. No I'm not beating the poor laptop up; it was just a question I had. It was more in the sense of what games won't it play coz then I just won't play those games.

    This laptop is awesome (even though i haven't it yet, but SOON!) and is exactly the kind of beast I wanted. I'm not the hectic gamer that wants to run everything on high etc etc but just playable and nice. And besides my 18hour bus trip each holiday just got 4 hours of movies shorter. :)
     
  20. whitelight01

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    LOL...That'd be like playing in a slideshow mode.
     
  21. unreal25

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    The only game so far I found unplayable was APB beta. But its still... beta.
     
  22. stevenxowens792

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    Unreal - new nvidia beta driver for apb. check website. bw, stevenx
     
  23. unreal25

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    Ah thanks! Forgot about it... I come home in the evening, then end up just watching something until I fall asleep :D
     
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    Dwarf Fortress is the most demanding game out there for the CPU that I have found. My desktop can run almost any game at full settings and good FPS, but once I am a few years into a fortress, DF slows to a crawl.

    I will return when mine arrives in the mail and i can benchmark DF on the i7.
     
  25. AlienTroll

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    Shattered horizen lags on this notebook.It played at 6 FPS :eek:
    At fully low graphics it ran at 25 FPS.But every other game i played on mine played wonderful.
     
  26. THX5334

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    Transformers: War for Cybertron keeps crashing in the same spot on the same level no matter if I overclock or not.

    Just Cause 2 won't play at all. Waiting on a fix for this.

    BFBC2 sometimes won't load unless I set the PhysX to only the 335m instead of Auto (Beta Drivers)

    Other than that most things play decently.
     
  27. swedelong

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    Strange I have found no problems with either JC2 or BFBC2. Both play pretty well for me (~30fps for both - mediumish settings).

    THX5334, do you have R1 or R2?
     
  28. THX5334

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    R2. That would be the culprit..
     
  29. zarzak

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    I've tried out DF on my alienware and my apple (both in sig). I'm noticing that the alienware is obviously slower on world generation, though I haven't played long enough on either machine to notice a difference in gameplay. DF is a pure CPU game, however, so you may run into problems once the map gets complex enough.
     
  30. mk1freak

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    WoW - ruby sanctum 25 man
    15fps prior to halion pull
    2-5 fps during fightwith major stuttering(almost died to cutter on p2/p3 many times and don't even mention moving out for debuff LOL) still got her down though LOL

    25 mans totally unplayable IMO
    10 mans almost as bad
    farming is fine though just dont go dalaran LOL

    all settings at low
    all effects off
     
  31. ukgamer

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    For me you can add Borderlands to the list - random black screen crashes on my R1 although this would appear to be the game rather than the M11x, seems a common complaint.
     
  32. zarzak

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    You should be getting much better. Sounds like this is that driver issue on the wow thread where the 335m card isn't kicking in.
     
  33. keftih

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    I haven't found any games that are unplayable yet (r1), but Assassin's Creed 2, BFBC2, and GTAIV can run uncomfortably slow at times.
     
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    GTA 4 fer sure sucks on high settings.
     
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    na i got borderlands, i turn some simple settings lower and i get nice gameplay :)
     
  37. ampLitude

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    GTA IV was coded poorly as it was transfered from PS3 to PC. It was later revealed on these forums that GTA IV will run smoothly if turbo boost is turned off.
     
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    Has anyone tried Flight Simulator X? I would have thought that this would be a challenge.
     
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    Yes I have. In fact this is one of the reasons that I bought the M11X r1.

    To use flight simulator X you may turn up the settings but leave the water and dynamic scenery off, to get even higher frame rates you may decide to run in a window. Useing planes from PDGM really drops the frame rates down.

    For more details go to the flight simulator x thread or the gameing thread where I left a more detailed description. :)

    That being said, wether a game will or not run on the M11X will sometimes depend on your idea of the quality of the graphics. lower graphics= will run, higher graphics= no way.
     
  40. mk1freak

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    tried it with almost every available driver (clean installs), using evga precision i watch the clock speeds and the 335m is definately on.
     
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    Someone on here asked earlier how Half Life 2 Cinematic Mod ran on the m11x. I have been running it for a couple of days now with the highest settings, using the latest drivers from Dell and also using GameBooster, and have got generally smooth framerates with the occasional dip every 20min or so that doesn't really detract. The mod is amazing and adds a lot to the half life 2 series.
     
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    Idk what your talking about. Single card solutions on desktops can easily play it.
     
  43. Vidaluko

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    JC2 works perfect, you need to play a little with the settings, but the game runs and look better than the console versions in the m11x

    And about Supreme Commander 2, runs great in the m11x R2:

    http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/VIdaluko/SupremeCommander22010-12-1417-40-03-29.jpg

    60 fps maxed out, it goes down to 30-40fps with over 100-150 units on screen, but I have never seen lag on it, and I have over 24 hours played it
     
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    Civ 4 works great for me, but I can't get Street Fighter 4 to work. Double click it and nothing...any ideas guys?
     
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    Does Medal of Honor (2010) work on the m11x R1?
     
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    I had my R1 back in BETA and it played well on medium/low shadows. 1280x720 resolution. Just fine. I am sure now with more patches and optimization it works even better.
     
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    I have SSF4:AE and it works for me flawlessly. The only game I can't run with optimus is CnC Generals. If I play it on medium i still lag. lameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
     
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    I cant run Civ 5 On any driver after 270.?? for some reason
     
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    Yes, as someone said... RTS games hit the M11x VERY hard. I did extensive testing with 3 RTS games:

    Starcraft II
    Command & Conquer Tiberium Wars
    Age of Empires III

    and ALL of these games will experience some sort of slowdown during multiplayer matches with multiple opponents and large armies on screen. For my Starcraft II "benchmark" I used 8 players, with all AI opponents set to max difficulty. Starcraft II never became unplayable, but it does that a framerate hit at times. Overclocking reduced the effect of this hit, but doesn't eliminate it completely. Smaller Starcraft matches between 1-4 opponents run much more smoothly. 1 on 1 matches are very smooth, obviously.

    Tiberium Wars was probably the *worst* optimized RTS for laptops. I got pretty horrendous framerate drops in 8 player games (My FPS dropped to 6 at some points) and even overclocking at 166 BUS and cranking down every setting possible did not change this. The game is simply too processor hungry. For smaller matches between 1-4 opponents, it's a little better. I got slowdowns even on 1 on 1 matches, I guess due to the number of sheer units on screen compared with SC2.

    Age of Empires III runs, by far, the best of all 3 on the M11x R2. Even with large amounts of units on screen, it runs very smoothly with no problems on high settings. However, as with all RTS games... the more units you have on screen, the harder that framerate drop is going to be.

    Other games that do not run well on the M11x:

    Battlefield Bad Company 2. Large multiplayer games produced significant framerate drops for me (almost being to the point of unplayable) even on the lowest settings. Overclocking + Throttlestop help combat this slightly, but it's clear to me that the Battlefield engine is not designed for low end processors. The single-player campaign worked perfectly for me, however, running at a very stead 30 to 40 FPS throughout. It was only when I jumped online that the framerate took a dip. If you're *really* into Bad Company 2, the smoothness may not be acceptable to you. (I would reccomend Modern Warfare 2 or Black Ops, as both of these games run infinitely better on the M11x)

    Zombie Driver: I chalk this one up to be just a symptom of being an indy game, but I can't seem to eliminate the framerate dips in this game. It hugs the 30 FPS marker on high settings and frequently dips to the low 20's when there is a lot of activity on the screen. Lowering settings improves the framerate, but I still see slowdowns in some areas of the map. Overclocking + Throttlestop does not seem to fix this, which tells me the game may just be unoptimized. It's an indy developer, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

    Oblivion: I'm reluctant to include this game because I've put in many hours of testing and tweaking, and it runs *very* well on the M11x R2. However, setting the view distance too high will slow things down considerably. While unoverclocked, running around the gameworld is fairly smooth... however if you're in an instance with multiple attackers (I'd say more than 3) you're going to see a significant slowdown. While overclocked at 164, I was able to play Oblivion at Ultra settings, at 60-80 FPS. I then proceeded to attack very person in Bruma and ran around town with 10+ enemies in tow. The framerate dropped to as low as 24 when I engaged them, but improved as each enemy died and no longer became an object on screen. Like I said, I'm reluctant to include Oblivion as gameplay never became unplayable.

    The moral of the story is that many games, especially newer ones, are going to need tweaking to get them to run to the level YOU want them to play at. I'm the kind of person that would rather player at lower settings and have a consistant framerate than player at higher settings and just suffer through the parts where the framerate dips. To me, that hurts the immersion of the game experience.
     
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    Universe at War: Earth Assault, RTS that was on sale in Steam few days ago, runs very weird, and I dunno if is just in the m11x or in general, I get 80fps while playing and then a small unit enter the screen and I can get a 1 second drop to 15fps....

    Other games that are hard to run are the Red Faction games, Guerilla and Armagedon, to get 30-45 fps you need to run them at low and very few settings in medium, no AA, no V-synch, 1280x720, etc.

    ‪Red Faction: Guerrilla on the Alienware m11x (R2)‬‏ - YouTube
     
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