Deus Ex: Human Revolution

So I'm kinda new to the whole PC gaming thing, so pardon me if this is a dumb question.

What are the odds of the new Dues Ex running good on the M11x? This may be wrong, but I'm under the impression that if it can run on the Xbox 360, I can expect at least equal from the M11x.


EDIT: Also, I have an M11x R2, 8gb ram, i7 processor.

 

It should be able to play it on low, if you tweak it it should be able to go low-medium-high. I'd turn the shaders down as they stress the GPU the most.

This is my best guess, It hasn't been released and system requirements can change before then.

 

Ok.. So my question would have to be, why the hell can a Xbox 360 run it looking the way it does, but this won't be able too? I'm not saying this thing is ness, but it should be able to at least handle what the consoles are, right?

 

Optimization, They usually optimize the heck out of Xbox games, then they do a half @$$ job on optimizing it for pc.
The 330M is made to be good on battery and gaming, which it does well. However, it doesn't do as well on the gaming part as its 260m and 460m brothers.

 

So am I just screwed on this year's new games? Because I just spent $1300 on this laptop, so I can't afford a desktop on top of it. I was hoping for it to be at least on-par with an Xbox 360...

 

The M11x was made to be a light portable gaming notebook, which i think it does a good job at.

You won't be screwed on games, just won't be able to play them maxed.

 

I know I won't be able to play them maxed, that's a given, but still....

I'm just a bit dissapointed in hearing this. I wouldn't ask to play on max, but I thought medium (Most likely what the 360 is running) was attainable, at least.

 

Every new game and first suggestion is "low"

Deus ex 3 on tomb raider engine with very low q graphics (but hq design), it will be running like beast on 60 fps in high. That's my guess.

 

Oblivion and Fallout 3 NV run on the same engine and theres a big difference in system requirements between the two.

My point is that you really can't compare them based off them running the same engine. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration.

The 330m will play it no problem, on what settings is best guess until the game is released. I say released because game developers tend to change there system requirements.

I hope your right and it does beast through it.

 

People are running the Crysis 2 demo on what are effectively medium settings and getting 30-40fps (even at 1080p). If anything, this illustrates that graphics engines are different, and therefore YMMV, and there's no point in speculating about how it will perform until official min system reqs are released (which are typically unreliable anyway), or when you can actually install the thing and test it out.

Will it run? Yes. Will it run on low/med/high/max settings? Noone knows.

 

^this is exactly why i don't think an M11x is really worth it if you spend $1,000 or more if it's coming with the same 335m GPU. if you look around here, a lot of forum members bought refurbed i5's for ~700-800, and at that price, i think it's worth it to be able to play 98% of modern games at at least medium-ish settings. on top of that, you can play them basically anywhere because of the M11x's size.

i paid $649 for my R1 - 4GB RAM and 250GB HDD, and i think it's worth every penny. however, R1 vs R2 comparisons have proven that, by and large, R2 gaming really isn't much better than with the R1, and in some cases, it's worse. on top of that, there seem to be more issues with the R2 Optimus drivers and whatnot.

what other types of games do you want to play? do you have a decent 40" or larger LCD/plasma? i honestly think that if you like console games (as the majority of people do), you would be better off buying a new R1 or a refurbed R2, and using the other $700 for a 360 or PS3 and ~7 or 8 games.

if you are almost strictly a PC gamer and want to run the latest and greatest at high or max settings, this laptop is not the right one for you. i think in general, you're looking at a 15 or 17 inch laptop that weighs 8-12 pounds. Asus makes something in the $1300 range, i think.

if portability is not a factor, look at the Toshiba Qosmio (you can get a Q892 or Q894 for around $1,200)...it's a beast at ~18.4" or whatever, and it weighs as much as Alienware's M17x, but [the latest Qosmio] has a GTX 460M card in it that will run basically anything you throw at it in high settings, with the standard Crysis/Metro caveat of "only" 30-40 FPS at max settings. there are always tradeoffs in life, and you're certainly not going to get that type of gaming in a laptop as small as the M11x. not yet, anyway.

if you're still within the return window with Dell, you should take a hard look at what you really want out of a laptop and also at your expectations for the M11x. i think the vast majority of us on this forum own one because of a combination of the small size/portability, and the gaming ability that is unmatched by other manufacturers in this size and class. i play Crysis on all high settings. i don't believe that there are any laptops out there for $650 that can do that. do i expect to be able to run it (or any modern games) on max with 4xAA? nope, and i think that's the type of expectation/question you need to figure out.

best of luck!

 

An educated guess but yes, they are still guesses. System requirements can change, but are not usually far off from what the reputable websites say.

The Crysis 2 demo, is well a demo... and the system requirements have a good chance of increasing.

Yes, there is a difference between the two engines no one is saying that there isn't.

What does the Crysis demo have anything to do with his question?

 

Portabilty is the main reason I bought this laptop. I just thought I'd be able to get more out of than what people are saying, and that's discouraging.

The thing is, I prefer PC gaming. But I'm not a desktop person. AND... I needed a lot of portability. So this seemed like the perfect match for my needs.

I don't know... After seeing a friend run Dead Space 2 almost entirely maxed out, and then watching him run Bulletstorm on high... I just thought it would at least take a while to be completely passed by...

So far, this thing has matched, or surpassed, every game I've tried on both platforms. So I just thought it apparently better than it is.

 

The 335m isn't a bad card, there are just bigger and badder ones out there. Its always like this sadly, very few computers stay on top for more than a few months.

 

I had a bit of an argument with someone about the intended market for this laptop. My view is that it's not meant to be someones only gaming PC. A hardcore PC gamer usually has a rig at home that can max out games. The 'neat' gaming trick this laptop does is allow you to play everything out there and make the games look grand on the little 11" screen. I play games on medium with AA turned off and they look fantastic and play great. I know they aren't running 'max' but honestly people who don't know are amazed. And I'm playing in coffee shops, during lunch breaks, on planes....It's the PC equivalent of a PSP.

But when I'm home I'm playing on max on my gaming desktop. I don't even consider the M11X at home. And I think that's the intended market. The 'extra' PC. So don't pay more than what you consider a good deal for a great second PC.

On the other hand I started a firestorm of purchasers. Seems everyone who sees this thing ends up ordering one.

 

If it's the same engine as Underworld, then that's damn consersative. You can run TRU maxed at native resolutions!

I'd say AT LEAST medium. This game isnt anything near Battlefield 3 or Crysis...

 

I'm going to take a guess and say mixed medium-high settings

 

I understand what you're saying here; however, the m11x is my main PC and my main gaming rig. For my work, I have moved three times (internationally) in the last three years and will be moving again later this year. When I saw the m11x in Sept 2010, I jumped at the purchase. The portability makes it for me.

I am so looking forward to Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Although playing on the highest settings would be great, I am not too worried about that; as long as the game plays smoothly that would be enough.

 

"i just thought i'd be able to get more out of than what people are saying, and that's discouraging."

who did you talk to prior to buying? all the reviews say that you can run games like L4D2 at high @ 40 FPS, Crysis at medium/high settings, etc. none of them say that this is a beastly gaming laptop, and no one really buys it for that. if you want something that plays games at higher res and at high/max settings, the M15x gets you closer. Asus, Clevo, Xplorer, and others are alternatives, but they're all ~15-17 inches and nowhere near as portable. as with everything else in life, there are tradeoffs with laptops as well.

http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming-laptops/

those laptops with the GTX 460M can run games wayyy better than our M11x. however, they're way bigger, they get way hotter, and they are way more expensive.

 

wait. ur saying ur friend running DS2 maxed out and bulletstorm on high on a m11x right? cuz if your saying that. then u are just getting worried over a game that doesnt show any spec requirements. Forcing people to made educated guesses about how it will run on the m11x. it sounds like your discouraging yourself on purpose. I don't stress myself over how i much i paid. nor do i focus on what games i cant play in the future (undetermined). Why? because the last 3 games i installed on this computer i've played flawlessly on high or ultra.

 

now that deus ex is out, have anyone tried out on a m11xr1?

 

Haven't out lol, that's leaked beta

 

It'll be out next Tuesday though. Can't wait.

 

the preview build runs OK on the R2 though there's some issues with it microfreezing....hoping that is fixed.

 

well not its released anyone tried it on m11x r1? I hope I can play it, if not im gonna cry ... now :/

 

If youd look youd find it. Credits to froogle Thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/605849-deus-ex-human-rev-m11x.html Youtube video for those who dont want to read the thread and just want to see Deus Ex Human Revolution on the Alienware M11x - YouTube

 

yeah but this is on a r2, Im asking if its playable on a BIOS OC m11x r1

 

I'd also be interested to learn how well it plays on the R1.

 

YouTube video linked was uploaded on August 17th.
It's video of a beta (leaked) version.

EDIT:

According to him, it is not.
@minhdng0904 i don't think the version sent to my publisher was beta no.
"frooglepete"

 

He's a journalist, so I'm assuming he got an advance copy of the release version for review purposes.

 

The game runs fine. Just disable ssao and you can get about 30% better fps.

 

On a M11x R1?

 

Is this game GPU-overclock friendly? I don't even want to overclock my GPU to play L4D2 and get crashed or BSOD lol :x

 

Wondering which to get....PS3 Version or PC on R1..suggestions?

 

You can buy the game on Amazon for $35. I'm debating whether I should buy it or not. Not one is saying whether it runs well on a R1.

 

Buy it and see for yourself and tell us all or you can wait till somehere does im sure itll be soon

 

I bought it and played about 30 minutes of it. The FPS goes up and down very frequently. Sometimes it's at 60 FPS, then it dips to low 20's for awhile. It's a bit jittery because of this. I have a R1, CPU @ 1.73, and latest hybrid drivers from Dell. I had everything off or on low.

I just played it with FRAPS not running. It seems to perform much better without FRAPS. It's either that or I just don't notice when a yellow number is poking me in the face.

 

Would you be willing to play around with settings and see how it handles? If its more of a CPU issue, which is usually the case with our beloved R1's, then we might be able to bump up the settings and not see any more of a performance hit then what would exist for us anyway

 

I have an m11x r1 overclocked with 4GB RAM and the game runs just fine, very smooth so far. I used the default settings:

AA=FXAAHigh
Shadows=Normal
Depth of Field=Normal
SSAO=Normal
Post Processing=On
Texture Filter=Trilinear

I don't use FRAPs so don't know what my frame rates are but I would compare it very much to Mass Effect 2 which you know also runs just fine. I also bought the XBox version and it looks just as good and runs just as good so I'm happy.

Great game, recommended.

 

Yeah, I guess, as long as it doesn't involve OC'ing my GPU or my CPU anymore.

How? I have everything on low or off to get it to feel decently smooth. What is your secret? It's definitely playable, but it stutters periodically. There's definitely room for improvement.

 

I'm also on board with the same question...Unfortunately I was about to create a thread giving the bad news to r1 owners that this game is barely playable as I, like Vindictive, have everything set on low to have the game run. Unfortunately as mentioned, there are a few jitters here and there which is causing the game to be somewhat unplayable and without those jitters, it'd run completely fine. Do you guys think it has anything to do with the patch?

 

No I mean the in game graphical settings. There are some games that we seem to hit a CPU bottleneck , and that will have micro stutters no matter what we do, regardless of if the graphic settings are on low, or on high. Bumping the settings up might not change the performance at all (or very minimally) if the CPU is strictly the issue. Our GPU should be able to handle better settings then low.

 

Now this is what I wanted to hear...but is your OC from the BIOS or is it hard modded?

 

Maybe the latest Nvidia drivers help? I know they made a big difference in Crysis 2. Maybe I should install em and see what happens.

What drivers are you using Gerry? I have the same specs for my R1. I'm OC'ed through BIOS. Not sure if you are though.

 

Tell me what to tweak and I'll gladly do it. The stutters are not horrible. The game is playable, but it could be smoother.

 

Alright guys, according to my in-game testing right now, the fix seems to be the patch. I'm running on a m11x r1 with factory OC and I just was able to run with these settings. At first I was experiencing a lot of stutter and lag here and there, but after some browsing on the steam forums, all I did was defrag the game files on steam and verified the integrity of the game cache (all done under "local files" in properties for steam). After that, there was a small download (12.5mb) that indicated I had the patch downloaded. At first, it seemed to do nothing and I had everything off with only 1280x720 resolution. The boys over at the steam forum say that enabling triple buffering might help but I don't think this necessarily applies to m11x's. On to the main subject, all I did was restart the system and I virtually went from my original settings and then turning one or two things on to what settings this guy has and I have a totally playable frame rate! My tests were conducted by blazing through the beginning level where it lagged a lot for me especially during firefights but right now, the gunplay is as smooth as butter and everythings great. I'll try and do some more testing into further levels to see if everything's good but right now, I'm thankful for this little beast pulling through for me when my hopes were dwindling.

 

This is the news I was hoping for! Thanks!

 

I didn't really notice any difference. What drivers are you guys running?

 

I haven't updated the graphics driver since I got the machine so it is 8.17.11.9772 dated 28.4.2010. The CPU is overclocked in the bios according to the manual. I'm also running at 1366 x 768 using HDMI to a Sony 24" TV and it looks really good.

If only someone could help me with hacking terminals and locks in game?!

 

I think I kind of get what you're saying. It definitely feels smoother after downloading that 12.8mb file and restarting. There's still a bit of choppiness here and there. It definitely helped though! Thanks.