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    Dell 3007 30" and M11x

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by tommyxv, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. tommyxv

    tommyxv Notebook Evangelist

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    Just wondering if anyone here is using the older 3007 30" Dell monitor with the M11x and if so, what adapter is doing the job well.
     
  2. simonmpoulton

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    It has both DVI and VGA so with the R1 you can use either a HDMI-DVI cable or VGA. With the R2 you'll only have the option of a HDMI-DVI cable.
     
  3. Tremek

    Tremek Notebook Enthusiast

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    3007 is dual-link DVI only; I don't know if simonmpoulton is referring to the R1's connections or the monitor's, but the monitor itself needs a dual-link DVI source.

    I'm writing on mine right now, and its only video input is the dual-link DVI connection which will need some form of conversion out of the R2's DisplayPort with an adapter like this from Dell or adapt the signal out of the HDMI port maybe with a cable like this. As I was also mildly curious what it would take to plug my M11x into my 3007 I was doing some reading yesterday and found a bit on Wikipedia about how one particular format of HDMI connector, Type B, is electrically compatible with dual-link DVI-D but (at least as of when the wiki article was written - I have no idea how old it is) apparently Type B isn't in any devices yet. I don't know.

    Does anyone know what type of HDMI output is on the M11x?

    As a side note you can't run enough information over an analog VGA output to run the 3007WFP's 2560 x 1600 resolution anyway, so that's a no-go.
     
  4. simonmpoulton

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    The DELL tech specs show VGA and DVI connectivity.
     
  5. Tremek

    Tremek Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not trying to argue simon, it's just a false assertion.

    [​IMG]

    (Amusingly from that page, "The Dell 3007WFP doesn't even accept a "VGA" input as it has no such connector to begin with".)

    Edit: I'm thinking simon may be looking at specs for the 3008, which has a lot more options:
    [​IMG]

    I would very much like to find a way to swing a 3007 to 3008 upgrade. :) The back of that 3008 looks like my 2405s.
     
  6. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The resolution for that monster is too high for VGA to handle anyway. The maximum resolution that VGA can handle is 2048x1536. If the 30" takes a VGA connector, then there is going to be some stretching or something. You can't use the full resolution AFAIK.

    The 30" is 2560x1600. You need a dual-link DVI connection to even use the monitor at full resolution.
     
  7. tommyxv

    tommyxv Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the info...I should clarify that I have the 3007WFP-HC, Maybe the older models had a VGA port too? I will try that Dell adapter and see if it works well.
     
  8. Tremek

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    I have an original non-HC 3007WFP and its only connection is the dual-link DVI connector. It's the newer model, the 3008WFP, that has more connectivity options. While I have no doubt the $100 Dell connector should work (btw - it also uses up a USB port for power), I'm really curious to know whether that $15 HDMI to DVI connector would work for us. I may order it and find out.
     
  9. tommyxv

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    hrrrmm, maybe I will wait and see if the $15 HDMI to DVI connector works for you before I order the Dell adapter. :D

    EDIT: I just read that the Dual Link DVI Input on the DELL monitor must be HDCP compliant for the HDMI to Dual DVI cable to work. Is it?

    EDIT: Won't work...looks like the Dell Adapter is the only way to go.

     
  10. Tremek

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    You know, I also thought that HDCP might not work - but - look what I just found on this page:

    I wonder if that's true; if it supports HDCP, shouldn't it support a pin-adapted HDMI connection?
     
  11. tommyxv

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    Now we just have to see if the M11x is HDMI 1.3.
     
  12. tommyxv

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    HDMI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Not sure....now. The M11x manual just says its a 19 pin.
     
  13. Tremek

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    I may be wrong but I think the version of the standard and the connector used are completely separate entities.
     
  14. Shokz

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    I would be very surprised if the M11x wasn't HDMI 1.3, the standard's been around for quite a while and we're now on to HDMI 1.4 (which it won't have).
     
  15. tommyxv

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    I guess Ill try the $15 cable before I get the $100 adapter then.
     
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    Correct. If you want the native resolution stated above, you HAVE to use the dual DVI. I own one and still loving it after using it over 3-4 yrs.
     
  17. HeavyH20

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    There is no adapter for HDMI 1.3a to dual link DVI that will drive the resolution to 2560x1600. The type "a" connector is 19 pin and only sends a signal out via a single channel. You need data across two or you end up with half the resolution, 1280x800. Now, if you go native, the updated spec has improved bandwidth and can support 2560x1600 over a single channel. This is why the 3008wfp is more flexible and supports HDMI.

    The Dell adapter is a OEM version of the Accell. It takes the mDP signal and syncs up a second channel so that you get your resolution. It is your only real way to get the 30 inch working with dual link DVI.