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    335m Overclock gets me....less fps???

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by apslao, Dec 19, 2011.

  1. apslao

    apslao Notebook Enthusiast

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    Currently running a Mx11 R1, CPU OC'ed via Bios to 1.6ghz, and EVGA Precision OC's my 335m at these settings.

    700 core clock, 1680 shader clock, 910 memory clock.

    My games are running stable, temps are well below 50 degrees C...I am in Afghanistan in the winter atm. My biggest thing is this though! Whenvever I compare my base clock with the above clock...the fps for all of the games I'm frapping is either LESS or NO change! I've tried this with various games such as DOW2, Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2, Bioshock, Lara Croft and The Guardian Of Life.
    I've not used 3dmark since from what I've read here...that the best tests is to play the games you're gonna play! So I'd find graphic intensive scenes and record 60secs via fraps with both clocks. And to my surprise, I get no performance increase at all, or I'll even lose 1-2fps! I'm just really surprised that I'm not getting ANYTHING on this!
    I've got gpu-z to check and make sure that the clocks are applied. So what could possibly be the issue?
    BTW, for gpu testing, I've basically would go into town in Dragon Age, where there are a lot of character models, and start firing off some serious spells to see if I could get any artifacts or screen tearing. I'd do something similar with the above mentioned games.
    Last but not least...I'm surprised that I could get such a high clock, as EVGA Precisions software is almost maxed out at the various OC sliders! Is this normal?
    Truly appreciate whoever can help me find answers, I just bought Skyrim and was hoping to get the best I can out of this system.
     
  2. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    did u see the clocks going down in precision monitor?

    sometimes my laptop crashes and clocks down the GPU into a underclocked and a locked state

    try updating to the latest driver and using driver guide below

    GeForce Driver Installation Guide - NVIDIA Forums
     
  3. deadboy90

    deadboy90 Notebook Evangelist

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    well, it POSSIBLE that u have the worlds highest OCing 335m but unlikely. more likely is that the 335 is downclocking when you set the overclock that high so your not getting 700/1450/910 or whatever you had, you are playing at 405/810/324. I see u use evga, if possible download msi afterburner and set your EVGA clock speed. use the GPU burn in feature of the program that comes with afterburner called Kombustor. it shows your current clock speeds on the right hand side. more than likely you are going to see the screen flash and your clocks drop to 405/810/325 or something similar. What you need to do is use a lower OC and test it with Kombustor for an extended period. (10-20 minutes) To make sure that clock speed is stable. Note: Just because the speed is stable doesnt mean it will work with all your games. My reccomended speed that works with all my games is 550/1350/875 (including Skyrim!). hope I helped and good luck over there.
     
  4. apslao

    apslao Notebook Enthusiast

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    That sounds awesome. I will do that. I honestly didn't believe that my clock could possibly be that high, but I didn't know of a way to see if my gpu was running my clock in real time like you said. All I could do was set the clock, run the games, alt+tab and see if gpu-z was still saying I was running said Clock. Awesome. I'll try your clock and see how it does. Thanks.
     
  5. apslao

    apslao Notebook Enthusiast

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    As mentioned in the before posts, I'm pretty sure this is what's happening. I had the idea that if a GPU crashed...I'd either see artifacts, screen tearing, or BSODed...didn't think that the gpu would just underclock itself. Good deal! I will also do what you mentioned with the driver sweeper. Seems I've got the latest nvidia driver 285.62, but the control panel constantly crashes when I try to open it. But that's a seperate problem =)
     
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    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    That happened to me as well. I also got lower GPU performance when overclocking (I used 3DMark06 as a benchmarking tool to measure this).

    The problem I had was with EVGA Precision. For whatever reason, EVGA Precision would lock my GPU to 400Mhz no matter what setting I chose in the EVGA Precision sliders. I switched to MSI Afterburner as my overclocking app, and the problem went away.

    So, I recommend you try MSI Afterburner to overclock your GPU, and see if that does the trick.
     
  7. GNandGS

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    tried both and the only thing that worked was downclock. I suspect my gpu mem is borderline@stock
     
  8. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    use nvidiainspector. and that 700mhz core clock is WAY TOO MUCH. the driver is crashing and defaulting to 2d clocks because its unstable and the core is too high. back it down to about 550mhz and test again with nvidiainspector.
     
  9. apslao

    apslao Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, downloaded, but having trouble installing msi afterburner. Running Windows 7 64bit, and it keeps aborting the install saying I've got some onscreen display server or any other RTSS technology based application active. Trying Nvidia Inspector atm, will report findings as soon as I can.

    Gonna go mild on the recommended clock here 550/1350/875. I'll try 500/1300/850 and see what I get. Just wished I had a more definitive way of testing if/how much are the fps gains.
     
  10. deadboy90

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    well what I did was I went to an area in skyrim, preferably overlooking a cliff, and waited untill my FPS were stable and remembered it. then I alt+tabbed out and enabled my OC and went back in. I saw 10-12 fps gain with my gpu OC.
     
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    This is a huge difference with OC, I can't get any visible improvement with overclocking in Skyrim. I don't know why but I think I have the same problem as the author of the topic. Furmark is seeing the right frenquences but I don't see any difference in game such as bf3 or skyrim even if I can go to stable to 600/1440/920

    By the way I have a M11x R1.
     
  12. apslao

    apslao Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow, that's definitely impressive! Just purchased Skyrim via Amazon, hoping it gets here asap. If your Mx11 R1 is running skyrim that well, than I'm wondering why something like Dragon Age is running so/so? I'm getting like 25fps max at 1366x768, med graphics, med Textures, no AA, no frame buffer effects, no vsync.
     
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    Yeah, I'm stable at 545, 1340, 865 via MSI's Kombuster test...that's with post processing effects and AAx2 enabled. But I understand that this type of test is fairly subjective. Testing it any other way with games has given me the same results as you (above poster) has. I look to see if the clocks are "declocking" so to speak, and according to both Nvidia Inspector and EVGA Precision, they are not.(not using them at the same time btw.)

    Now when the game is Alt+tab'd, the 335m will decrease all clocks. Is
    THAT normal? I didn't think our GPU's were that adaptive! Basically what I'm saying is the GPU usage % increases, and so do the memory, shader, and core clocks in relation. When the GPU usage decreases, so do the above mentioned clocks. Weird? Normal? Power saving feature?
     
  14. deadboy90

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    Really? I have dragon age but havn't played in a while but I think I was getting a little be better than that framerates. But yea try the skyrim performance mod, it's a godsend
     
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    apslao Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah unfortunately that's my reality, Indoors with nothing going on I"ll get maybe 35fps...but actual combat with everything going off it drops down to single digits, and running around in Denerim drops it to mid/high teens. I'm wondering if the Nvidia control panel has something forced on that I"m not aware of...and of course Ironically, that app crashes everytime I try to open it. I'm currently running the most Recent Dell Driver I believe. I'm still able to change from intel graphics to the 335m on my own. I have the most recent Nvidia driver also...but when I install that, I lose the ability to change graphics. Any way to just download/install the Control panel?