11xR2 StarCraft 2 Beta - Problem with FPS discussion

So I just got the r2 today, which is with corei7 and then 4gb ram 320 7200rpm hard drive. I installed the drivers on the dell website, and then made customize settings to run sc2 with the nvidia processor. However, even running the settings in low, I am getting super low frames and choppiness. Any help? Kind of upsettng considering I got this for graphics and portability. Right now I am only getting the portability side. I set the settings on low and even during hte beginning when its onbly lets sayy... 6 scvs... it's super laggy.

On another note.. is there anything I should do my new m11x? Overlcock the i7.. enable turbo boosting or anything of the sort.. and how?

edit: i want it to run like this =( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD0J3gjWKOU

 

Try reinstalling the drivers again.

Uninstall the current driver
Reboot
Boot in Safe Mode
Run driversweeper, and check display, then clean.

Reboot, and install the driver again.
You may have to install the updated phyx driver as well.

 

is driver sweeper something I have to download? and how to boot in safe mode with windows7

 

Google both.

 

Thanks much. I'll let yall know how it works out. hopefully it does. I put it at medium and when i was at 10 drones it told me to lower my settings because my computer was slowing down the game.

 

Yeah... still the same results >.>.

 

Try installing some of the newer drivers.
I have heard the brand new one is good.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/499208-nvidia-verde-notebook-driver-258-96-discussion-relating-11xr2.html

 

how do i enable turbo boosting... anyone know

 

Not sure, but try checking the BIOS?

 

yeah it was enabled by default, was tempted to overclock but ill stay away from that til i research more about it. The other new drivers seems like a lot of work... im probably a little wary about that.

But yeah.. reinstalled drivers are using driver sweep and this and that. My frames are still horible and sc2 is actually unplayable... anyone else with same exp?

 

Hmn some other guy who was on beta said it's very playable... Should talk to that guy, but forgot which thread ><

 

Hmmm... okay.. because of right now.. I am super sad. I tried world of warcraft and get like 30 fps in ogrimmar. Which is decent. Well Im not sure what other people get but if that's standard then there must be something specifically wrong with starcraft

 

Yeah i'm having trouble running sc2 also (low fps, "computer is slowing game", gonna try some drivers now..

 

good to know im not alone. now lets solve this.... lol

 

play it on low detail setting

 

Driver should help.
Cause SC2 should easily be playable (with medium/high) on the M11x.

 

it barely plays on even low settings.... laggy and once it gets hectic it spams the lower the settings... if only there was something lower than low.. but thats not what im aiming for. im looking for it to be playable on high settings.

 

i think its running the game using the intel GPU. I never had that experience with the R2.

Go to the Nvidia performance panel and add starcraft on the manage 3d settings.(if you haven't done it yet)

 

Have you installed the new drivers yet?

 

Its not even the new drivers.. I ran it with the stock that I have. Its just that some games are automatically detected by optimus and some arent. Its best that we turn on that right-click option.

 

yeah.. i added it to the manage 3d and told it to run on the nvidia...

 

Have you tried any games besides wow and Sc2?

I think, Noah is right.. Just install the new drivers from this post

NViDiA Verde Driver + Modded INF

 

could you, if youd like, but itd be super helpful to me, print screen what u put on the manage 3d games for sc? i think itd help.

oh and since ur desktop is basically exactly like mine, how does ur desktop perform in comparison to the m11x

 

Desktop is way better. Well in ultra details, it chugs a little bit(because of the 512 MB GPU), you know, not that bad but you'll notice. So i set it to either high or high/medium. I can't really compare side by side since i only have 1 account. But Im almost sure that once you reach the peak fps, you wont see any difference anymore. R2 runs good on medium/high settings, and best on medium settings.

Although I can set details on high for the M11x, I don't, because I wouldn't want to change it while playing with someone. I usually test CPU and GPU by playing with 7 AI.

I'll get you the screens once i get home.

 

thomas did say its very playable with the new beta drivers.

 

Plus reps to everyone that helped me out! the new drivers helped completely. NO MORE LAG. hahaha.. so sweet... however... theres still a 50% chance i might return or try and resell this thing. Basically I got it for 1150 with 3 year accidental coverage warranty which was at a value of 1500 or 1600... something like that. It's not running my ns7 and serato itch smooth. but I am going to trouble shoot like hell because I DO NOT WANT A MAC. Thanks again everyone.

 

No problem
Have fun with SC2!

 

It is very playable and sc2 phase2 has some performance issues too at the moment, which phase1 didnt have. so there is hope for sc2 to return somewhat to the speeds people are used to from the m11x R1 since that is all from phase1.

 

same new drivers helped, thanks, enjoying sc2 like mad now.

 

yeah... the frames of that youtube video look a lot better than the frames I am currently getting with my m11xr2. I wonder how it is vs the m11xr1

 

Right now because of the driver issues and other quirks the R1 runs SC2 about 15-20 FPS faster than the R2. There was another thread were it was discussed and tested in detail, and on settings were the R1 was getting 60+ the R2 was getting in the mid 40's.

 

I figured there's things going wrong with m11xr2. Seriously... unless you are playing that CPU intensive space game... do not get an corei7. its more trouble than its worth. If I could re-do my buy I would 100% get the su7300 and just overclock it. It's still sweet overall tho, the presentation, portability, I love this thing. But save about 200 dollars for more battery life, less crap, and lack of optimus (imo optimus is hype, I'd rather do the switch thing). The onlything that you benefit from the i7 that i've seen thus far is.... well.. it's hard to say since i never had an r1, but I bet the computing difference is minimal. So unless you just want the glamour of having the highest processing unit I'd go with the su7300 and perhaps buy a SSD.

 

your comparison is too generic just like some ppl at start and not think far enough. read this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...iver-support-when-considering-r1-r2-time.html

 

I can understand the viewpoints of the r2 being more of a long term investment in comparison to the r1. regardless of further, if I buy a new product, especially with a higher investment price, I expect it to not only run just as smooth but better. but that wasn't exactly the case. So I cant help but be a little dissapointed. Everything else about the laptop I love tho.

 

That's the exact way I felt, it's why I returned the R-2, and went for a used R-1 instead. I probably would have kept the R-2, if the R-1 wasn't around, just because there isn't really much else in this size, battery life. This whole longer term investment argument kind of doesn't fly with me. For one, there is no guarantee optimus will ever be 100%, two, you don't buy a computer as an investment lol, anyone who even thinks of it that way is foolish, in 6 months the R-2 will not be the machine to buy, I can pretty much guarantee that. Besides, I'd rather pay less now, get the R-1, wait for the dust to settle with R-2 drivers etc, or wait for something better, and buy that. If someone plans on only buying one laptop for the next couple of years, fine maybe the R-2 is the way to go, but again, no guarantees right?

 

in such matter no one opinion is ever the correct one. seriously as i said before in other post too. there's no right or wrong to such. individually everyone thinks differently. so i cannot agree on you calling others foolish. its like others could have call you foolish with your action in their way of thinking too. anyway such debate is endless. think what you like. i just felt that be it R1 owner or R2 owner we need to give each other some basic respect. i think this place is for sharing our user experience and help each other rather than a place to criticise one another. despite what ppl think. as far as my usage so far. i am happy with my R2. thats all i can say.

 

Reread the post. I said thinking of a computer as an INVESTMENT is foolish, technology changes so fast, one month after you buy something, it's not the best any more. I fully understand why the R-2 is a better choice for some, and agree others opinions are just as valid as mine. I however take exception to the way you make it seem like I'm saying something I'm not. Anything that depreciates the minute you buy it, isn't an investment. Let me ask you, do you believe it to be an investment?

Investment: An asset or item that is purchased with the hope that it will generate income or appreciate in the future.

Calling a certain computer a better future investment is what I took exception with.

And stating my opinion in no way insults you because you chose to go the R-2 route. Personally I prefer to have the newest technology available. I just feel the R-2 is not a polished product out of the gate (I know it's mostly driver issues, however it's the responsibility of the company selling the computer to make sure it's working WHEN you buy it not down the road. And as I said I would have kept the R-2 if it was the only option available to me. I think it's a great machine. However I DO think it has flaws right now.

At no time did I criticize anyone, unlike you just did. I was offering my opinion, which some people might feel helpful (or maybe not ).

 

I agree whole heartedly. However, I do have to remind myself very often that many people who purchase the m11x series laptop are pretty young in general. As such, although maturity of thought, logic and statements may often develop with age, but not neccesarily so, more often than not, it's the immature ones who seem to be more rash and headstrong with their opinions. In some instances, their intentions may be good, but when they respond in their postings, the wrong choice of words may rub some others the wrong way.

I bet this forum board was not created to be used as a tool to generate competitive negativeness among its members, but was conceived as a place where all fellow members who owned similar types laptops could come together to enjoy the experiences of their 'shared' ownership, and provide positive shared solutions for issues that they faced.

I sincerely wish that we all can unite as a single representative body of the m11x. If a R3, R4 or even R5 model should ever evolve in the future, I am sure all those future owners will like to be similarly adopted into the family, and not have their 'pride' of ownership get dragged through the dirt by cross competitive feuding. Individuals creating posts that seem to be constructive but have an underlying motive to generate more implied negativeness by just the anticipation of its thread responses does not help either.

We are all passionate about our technology and I hope we can use this passion to drive more positiveness among ourselves.


Updated:
I for one have been very extremely impressed with my m11x, and when I thought about it more, realize that I could have experienced the joys of the R1 owners so much earlier if only I considered this laptop earlier! But it's all good now as I am able to enjoy it now too! The size and 'power' of this tiny thing is like a miracle to me, and I find that I use it alot more than all the previous large powerhouse laptops that I only used to buy.

 

Wow. Since his post was directed at me, and you are replying to his post, this is directed at me i assume? All I can say is Wow. I reread my post several times, I cannot see what someone would take such exception with. However if I offended people I apologize, please tell me what I said that offended?

As for playing the maturity card, I'll say this, I'm over 40, a professional, and have owned a computer everyday of my life since the Vic 20 came out (that alone should verify my age ). I spend thousands of dollars a year on computer related technology, I'm saying this to show I have quite a bit of experience with technology, and that's where I base my opinions from. Again, I never meant to offend anyone. Let me know what I said wrong, so I won't repeat it again, thanks.

On a side note, I find MOST people to be headstrong with their opinions, be they young or old, the very nature of having an opinion means you believe strongly enough to state it.

 

No, that was my mistake to qoute that reply. I just pressed the reply button. Sorry to seem as though it was directed at you. My post was not directed at you, just my thoughts in general when reading the countless R1 against R2 threads or vice versa.

 

lol then ignore my post

Things are easy to misinterpret sometimes heh.

 

Regardless of the matter... The truth is... I shouldn't have to hack my way (semi -hack) to some drivers for a different laptop, to be able to play a game. Hell.. even with the new drivers... it's not as good as the R1. And regardless of undeveloped technology or not, if that was the case... don't release it. Company revisions, and direct upgrades such as the r1->r2 should be a fluid transition, with performance increases where it should be, in this case... slight processing. However, I think the true fault lies within Nvidia not fully developing optimus correctly, because drivers are what seem to be causing it to perform less efficiently than the r1. If the M11x had a non optimus option, I bet it would perform the same as the r1 if not better.

I admit... once tweaks are made and things are fixed. The R2 > R1. But for now R1> R2. I got my r2 to play starcraft, be portable, and look nice. It's doing all 3 but my favorite.. playing starcraft... is satisfactory, but when in comparison to the r1 (which does better), is less... It makes me sad because I shelled out the extra money. Im not expecting for better graphics performance, but I am looking for at least on par. I will get it soon. I am confident, but hey man.. i get impatient... lol

 

I thought we're talking about starcraft2 here? not some r1 r2 comparison. BUt in my opinion, the r1 has a better resale value than the r2.. Fixing and tweaking optimus is too much. And for me, in the event that the 335 craps out, i wont be able to fix it myself.(I hope they have replacement parts in the future.)

 

well if someone honestly thinks the R1>R2 is totally misinformed

Either they're doing somethin wrong or they have a defective unit. I played SC2 on my R2 no problem, maintaining ~50fps during fights

I do not overclock at all and have not touched any BIOS options

 

the latest patch from the very end of phase2 seemed to have fixed a lot of things for me!! I now can run sc2 at high/ medium with textures on ultra no problems with 200/200 armies.

Awesome!

 

beta is over ; (

 

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?! Are you serious? I'm supposed to get my laptop.... tomorrow... :'(

 

Man, that sucks for you tk.
Though I'm getting mine tomorrow too

 

I think people forget that the R2 is using brand new cutting edge technology. Most of this technology is first generation and will therefore have issues that will need to be addressed. Most R2 users have already noticed an improvement with the 258.69 drivers and I would expect that it will just keep getting better. The new technologies in the R2 try to automatically adjust things based on situations and scenarios the problem with this is that they may not be working correctly. This is the case for both the CPU and GPU. Right now the R2 requires a certain amount of training in order to get things working perfectly I doubt this will be the case in the future.