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    11.6" competitors?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by pokiworms, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. pokiworms

    pokiworms Notebook Consultant

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    Are there any other similarly sized competitors to the m11x? It's been the only AW product that ever stood out to me so far. Too bad it can be configured with a 555. :(

    Also, what's the lowest price some godlike haggling and coupon wielding can bring you down to with an i7 and reg. everything else? 700? That would be a win right there. :]
     
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    octomobiki Notebook Enthusiast

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    Xaser04 Notebook Consultant

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    The likes of the Vostra 3450 could be considered as a competitor to the M11x both in terms of overall size* and specs (i5 2410 / HD6630m) but in general the M11x is kind of alone in the size / price / performance category it sits in.

    *The Vostro 3540 is obviously bigger than the M11x (it is after all a 14" laptop) but it is also significantly smaller than the M14x and arguably sits between the two in terms of overall performance.
     
  4. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    A big plus for the Vostro is its standard matte screen. Dell has also provided a fixed-mode graphics option, similar to HP, that allows OpenGL programs to work properly on the AMD GPU.

    The Vostro 3450 has one potentially deal-breaking flaw, though--in order to replace the hard drive, you essentially have to disassemble the entire laptop, down to the motherboard. I don't know what Dell was thinking here, but the Vostro 3350, 3550, and 3750 have an easily upgradable hard drive.
     
  5. un4tural

    un4tural Notebook Evangelist

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    M11X is a lone wolf in the netbook market, or small laptop w/e you call it. I had same issue when i wanted to change my asus eee 1000 into a new more capable netbook able to run games as i moved and left my gaming PC at home. Closest i found was Asus 1201n (i think its that one, with ION2 and dual core atom) but its battery life doesn't come close to m11x, not to talk about performance... and M11x is way more bang for the buck, plus way better quality.

    If you are looking for a sub 13" laptop m11x is the only choice which will run some decent games.
     
  6. hiarieshi

    hiarieshi Notebook Evangelist

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    The Sony Vaio Z2 would be a competitor except the price alone would make you choose the M11x
     
  7. un4tural

    un4tural Notebook Evangelist

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    having to dock kind of beats the purpose of having a gaming laptop, m11x might be heavy, but you don't need to lug around an extra dock, just to play some games... while it is a nice laptop, though heavily overpriced, i couldn't bring it to a relatives house in my backpack, plug it in and kill zome zombies or something.

    could be a somewhat alternative for m11x to some, but it isn't really in same shelve.

    Also price-wise VVTF.
     
  8. CZroe

    CZroe Notebook Evangelist

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    What about a 12.1" competitor? It could fit in the exact same chasis/footprint.
     
  9. kdskamal

    kdskamal Notebook Guru

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    Asus will be offering Eee PC 1215B with E450 APU. It is not as powerful as M11x, but it is similarly sized and powerful enough for daily needs and some gaming.
     
  10. ryan2107

    ryan2107 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Only laptop I can think of off the top of my head that's similar in size (not power however) would be the Macbook Air 11".

    But the M11x beats it on price, power, gaming graphics and connectivity hands down!
     
  11. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Seeing as you asked for similarly sized competitors, I remember there's the inch wider Acer 3830TG, the 2 inch wider ASUS U46SV and Sony Vaio SB. All have comparable dimensions to the M11x except in width and are thinner. You'll find more if you posted this thread here.
     
  12. KCETech1

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    or the older 3820tg with the 5650 or 6550.
     
  13. manu72

    manu72 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, actually there is no competition in the 11-12" market

    iirc the Acer 3830TG had/has major heat issues. (valid for 3820tg with ati 5650 too and to a lesser extent models equipped with ati 5470m)
    Altho maybe it is worth mentioning that my wife's own 4820tg with ati 5650m has some heat issues too, but manageable.

    The 14" Asus and Sony models are wider (5cm / 2 inch) and hardly qualify and not to mention that Asus comes with 4 cell battery (the optional 6/8 cell batteries makes it heavier/bulkier) while Sony has Ati HD6470m which is weaker than 540m (actually weaker than gt335m in 3DM06 according to notebookcheck)

    Actually in terms of size, the 14" models from above enters the league of M14x in terms of dimensions, the later one being heavier but also much powerful
     
  14. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The M11x shouldn't be compared to other 11.6"/12.1" notebooks then, since it's much heavier (2KG vs 1-1.5KG: MBA, 1215B), thicker (MBA) or deeper (1201N). The M11x is much closer in size to an 13.3" subnotebook then the netbooks it is compared to, having comparable depth and thickness while being slightly shorter in width.

    The U46SV mounts a 14" screen inside a 13.3" chassis and has closer dimensions to the M11x then the M14x.
     
  15. manu72

    manu72 Notebook Consultant

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    the m14x dimensions: 33.7 x 25.8 x 3.7 cm
    the U46SV dimensions: 33.3 x 24.5 x 2.46 ~2.70 cm (WxDxH) (w/ 4cell battery)
    the m11x dimensions: 28.5 x 23.3 x 3.2 cm
    the 3830tg dimensions: 32.2 x 22.8 x 2.8 cm (still wider than m11x)

    Still it looks to me that U46SV is closer to M14 than M11. Those 5cm more in width makes it looks really bigger

    The fact is that unfortunately, m11x has no competition in terms of size/power :(

    notice that i didn't even mention build quality
     
  16. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    HP DM1, while it doesn't offer close to the performance of the M11x it can game even newer titles at lower settings.
    Only other one I can think of is the SAMSUNG princeton series 3 available at Staples, i3/HD3000 combo.
    There really is no comparable model though, the M11x is in a class of its own in size/performance.
     
  17. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    The weight of the U46SV puts it back within M11x territory (2.08KG vs M14x 2.92KG). It is still much thinner then both the M11x and M14x and is in between both in depth.

    Just because nobody else makes a subnotebook with a 11.6" screen in a width-shortened 13.3" chassis doesn't mean nothing is comparable to it.
     
  18. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    hopefully lenovo will release their p330 soon...

    a little bigger than the m11x, but its thinner and has a 555m and an IPS screen
     
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    DDriver Notebook Guru

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    Damn, I heared that 3820tg had a supreme cooling, much much better than in bigger 4820tg. How could they screwed up in 3830?

    Just looked in the Acer forum, the problem is 3830 has a cd-rom drive that occupies room for "extra" cooling present in 3820. Well, in the end the 3830 is just a regular Acer, 3820tg was a beast.
     
  20. manu72

    manu72 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, for me the size was one of the deciding factors, the weight not.
    Being 0.5cm thicker or 1cm deeper counts less for me than 4-5 cm more width
    Basically i can pack the laptop and the charger in a space smaller than my wife can pack her 4820tg alone without the charger

    Also beside the size, the cooling ability and the eventual mild oc ability was another deciding factor.
    I really liked acer 3830tg, but it is wider and it runs hotter than m11x and those 2 things were deal breakers for me
     
  21. pokiworms

    pokiworms Notebook Consultant

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    Sigh, someone should really exploit this lack of competitors...

    An 11.6 asus would look pretty damn cute... Like a gaming laptop baby... x)
     
  22. CZroe

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    There are a lot of 11.6" netbooks. The 11.6" MacBook Air is the first notebook that comes to mind when specifically excluding them but, like you say, it doesn't really compare.

    I'd love to ssee a system with an IPS panel like the MBA and a decent GPU like the M11x in either 12.1" or 11.6"
     
  23. manu72

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    Aye, an M11x with the same size/specs but with a 12.1" matte good panel would be really nice.

    But then, the M11x wouldn't be the "fastest 11" laptop ever" :D
     
  24. IKAS V

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    What we need is a llano A8 APU in a 11.6" or 12.1" size. While it still might not match the M11x's power it should be close and from what I have seen OC's pretty well. Only size I've seen it in is 15" laptops in the sub $500 to $600 dollar range.
    Putting one in a smaller size with a nice matte screen and backlit keyboard for around $600 and they would sell like crazy.