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    Discussion in 'Alienware Area-51/Aurora and Legacy Systems' started by jellyfish007, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. jellyfish007

    jellyfish007 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guy which is better for m17xr1 QUADRO FX 3600M or GeForce 8800M GTX i can not make up my mind thanks :) :) :) :) :) :)
     
    jellyfish007, Sep 20, 2011
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    FragZero Notebook Consultant

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    Gamingwise they are the same.

    Quadro does offer improved opengl performance in certain software

    I'd buy the cheapest
     
    FragZero, Sep 20, 2011
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    jellyfish007 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i would use the 8800m gtx its good all rounder
     
    jellyfish007, Sep 21, 2011
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  4. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Go for the 9800m GT. The 8800M GTX is known to be defective...
     
    kobe, Sep 21, 2011
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    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    so is the 9800gt...
     
    whitrzac, Sep 21, 2011
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    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Nvidia fixed the problem with faulty soldering in the 8800 series after many complaints from laptop owners. The 9800GT is a better choice of the two. Or if you want to be safe, get the Quadro FX 3600m or the ati HD3870m. Either would be a good choice.
     
    kobe, Sep 21, 2011
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    The 8800m/9800m/fx 3600m are all g92 65nm chips which all have the same problem, faulty material/soldering and they will die after a certain amount of use/abuse.

    3870/4850 or a 260/280m are safe solutions but only the 3870 is affordable (120-150 usd on ebay), 4850's are really rare and the 260/280m go for 250+ usd
     
    FragZero, Sep 22, 2011
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    Marshall1975, Sep 22, 2011
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    ^That card is from the MSI gt725 and wont work on internal LCDs of other laptops. However, yes that is a good price, and yes its a very good performing card.

    To answer the original question: the 9800m GT and 8800m GTX are more powerful than the 3600m. They have +50% shaders (96 vs 64) of the 3600m, at least most that you will buy.
    Yes, nvidia released the 3600m as identical to the 8800m GTX but all of the HP and most other manufactured cards are identical to the 8800m GTS.

    The 3600m is still really the best value at about 115$
    HP 468592-001 NVIDIA QUADRO FX 3600M 512MB PCI-E MXM | eBay

    Fragzero is right, you are mistaken or misinformed. The same chip is used for the 9800m GT and the 8800m GTX. Nvidia fixed the solder in b1 revision chips which are the gtx 260m, 280m, 160m.

    The 3600m does not used the fixed solder either.
     
    niffcreature, Sep 24, 2011
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  10. kobe

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    Yes, I wasn't wholly informed on the issue. I thought that it only affected the 8800 since at around that period all m15x r1 owners including me were having their gpu's breaking down who were 8800m GTX owners. If that is the case then it would be to stay away from these models and go for the ati 3870 which is just as powerful as the 8800. I currently have this card.
     
    kobe, Sep 24, 2011
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  11. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    9800m GT isn't 55nm?
     
    moral hazard, Sep 24, 2011
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    No, its not.
    Only your special 1gb 9800m GTS and others are 55nm, remember?

    Maybe you're thinking of fx 2800m which is very similar.
     
    niffcreature, Sep 25, 2011
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  13. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes, you're right. I have no idea why I had that thought in my head, maybe I just wished it was.
     
    moral hazard, Sep 26, 2011
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    Hello guys, it has been a very very very long time since I post here. I was an avid poster a long time ago. Probably my greatest contribution was releasing a custom BIOS for the 8700m that that gave you an extra 2000 - 2500 points in 3dmark...

    Now I come to you in need of help. Im looking for the best bang for the buck. It seems to be the ATI card, but if for a couple more dollars I can get the FX then I'll do it. So what do you suggest I buy to revitalize my aging laptop. Thank you :)
     
    RFrancis, Oct 6, 2011
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  15. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The Quadro FX cards are the cheapest when it comes to MXM cards. So if you want one, the FX 3600m in niffcreatures post would be very good bang for buck.

    I would try to find an ATI 4870/4850 if you want the best performance. The ATI cards also should run cooler.
     
    moral hazard, Oct 6, 2011
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  16. RFrancis

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    I feel compelled to stay with nvidia because of cuda video encoding and other plugins that are accelerated by the cuda technology. Physx is also nice. I think I might go with the fx card, any resin I should pick the fx over a 9800, 260, or 280? Thank you.
     
    RFrancis, Oct 6, 2011
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  17. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    cheaper...
     
    whitrzac, Oct 6, 2011
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  18. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What he said.

    But if you can find a 260m or 280m for a good price it would be better, but you'll be searching for a while.
     
    moral hazard, Oct 7, 2011
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