My new build is complete

I'm writing this here because I have good friends in this forum and I still have my Ali m18x r2. I built this rig to support vr and vr design as my laptop can handle my dk2 but sadly not the vive or the rift. So please don't go flaming me due to the cable management (corsairs fault lol fat cables) I hope you enjoy looking at my creation which took lots of huffing and puffing due to the weight. My specs are

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Window Titanium with two front usb 2.0 x2 and 3 0 x2 and two fans.

Motherboard: Asus Rog Crosshair VI Hero X370

CPU: Amd Ryzen 1800X oc'd 4ghz

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 aio 240

GPU: Evga Gtx 1080 ti SC2 Hybrid

RAM: G.Skill Flare X DDR4-3200 8gb x2 xmp 3099 @ 1.352v couldn't get 3200 without sacrificing high dram voltage 1.463v

PSU: Corsair HX850 Fully Modular 2017 version with fat atx and gpu cables

SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500gb from my laptop

HDD: Seagate 2tb 7200rpm

Much hugs xx

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Forgot to mention the cinebench score it got 1764 and cpu was 61c it was warm in the house today lol.

 

Sorry for the dark photo I've edited it now

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Looks good, man. Congratulations and I hope it delivers everything you hoped for and then some

 

Nice! I was thinking about that GPU too. How is the noise level with that card while playing games?

 

m18x R2 with dual GTX 980M can handle VR/VR Certified ( in the green section )

 

Well I've stress tested the cpu and gpu but as both are liquid cooled it not really noticeable due to the quite fans and the cases sound dampening material. Max temps for gpu were 48c with superposition benchmark 1080p extreme and cpu 61c due to each core at 40 and it's been really hot here today. In very happy with the results. Cinebench scored 1764 and gpu in unigine superposition scored 6011 with gpu oc core +95 which was hitting in the area of 2,000 on the core think memory was 1200 can't remember I'll check it out later. Games shouldn't be as aggressive as these benchmarks so yes you can hear just a bit but no way as loud as my m18x r2 lol.

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That's true but the vr headsets need hdmi 2.0 and 90hz screen at least. My laptop does 75hz no problems that's why I use my dk2 on it. I could be wrong which I'm sorry of my mistake.

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Okay 2100 clock core and 1413 mem clock. That superposition benchmark taxes your cards heavily be warned.

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The M18X-R2 have a DP 1.2 port, so you can use this: https://www.ebay.com/p/Accell-Mini-DisplayPort-1-2-to-HDMI-2-0-Active-Adapter/1967004686
miniDisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0a Active Adapter 4K@60Hz.
I think two 980M in SLI maybe is capable to deliver enough power to do properly VR.

 

Does it cause any lag tho?

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Hey @Blossom81 ! Nice build! Good to see you around still - I hope you've been well.
Did you know there is a desktop part of NBR too? I did a build recently too - have a squiz here

 

Looking at your build, did you remove the window covering the vapor chamber on your Ti? Those 120mm fans could feed air directly over it that way, also, be sure to remove the metal bar dividing PCI-E slot's 1 and 2, when my FE was using the air cooler I was seeing 70C at 70% RPM with 120% PT having removed that bar and with a side panel fan. Others that have removed the bar have noted a 5C reduction in temps.

 

Sorry are you replying to mine or to TBoneSan? If to me what do you mean about the vapor chamber and the metal bar I believe is to keep the gpus from putting pressure on the slots.

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"The first two PCI Express x16 slots are covered by stainless steel shields, that work as a shield against interference, and also improving mechanical strength of each slot."

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No they serve no purpose other than to obstruct exhaust flow on reference Nvidia cards.

What I'm referring to is the white bar that was previously obstructing the exhaust of this card (old post):

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...oo-much-exhaust-need-improved-bracket-design/

You can see what I'm talking about in an older build log video from when I first got my 1080 Ti FE back in March at the 4:07 mark:



No special tools necessary, just take a pair of pliers and bend back and forth. The metal serves zero purpose, it isn't supportive, it isn't "shielding" anything from anything.

My temps can be seen in the beginning of the video above where I'm running TW3 in 3D Vision at 67C with 1:1 fan ratio (120% PT). Someone who removed the bracket said they say a 5C reduction in temps and the fact that I was seeing 70C at 70% fan RPM when everyone else and their brother was sitting at 80C should be indicative of the -5C to be had from this simple mod.

If you look at my channel you will find my newer build log videos to include my latest, with a link to instructions as to how to perform the "Poor Man's Hybrid" solution on your card, meaning, no, you don't have to give EVGA $150 for their glorified $50 Corsair H55, you can simply use a slightly modified $10 Corsair Intel CPU mounting bracket and use whatever AIO of your choosing, to include those that you may already have lying around for vastly superior performance (x41 is cooler and completely silent unlike EVGA's noisy Hybrid Kit, no fan control with the latter).

 

Thanks for your suggestion but I already get low temperatures around 48c due to icx and my card is hybrid aio.

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Nice, yeah AIO is the way to go unless you can swing a waterblock and loop. Love the silence.

 

@vulcan78 I haven't removed the GPU window that covers the Vapor chamber. But that's a good idea provided it won't create turbulence with the air coming from the direction of the blower.
It actually gives me an idea. I wonder if I make a duct from that fan into the window if it were off. That might be a nice project to try next.
Regarding the PCI slot, not sure if that was for me or for @Blossom81 now but I'm using itx so I only have 1 slot.

 

Yeah I was thinking about the turbulence as well, it probably wont be any better in the end. Is the exhaust of your card unobstructed with one slot?

 

Yeah definitely unobstructed. It's hard to see in the picture but it's actually organized kaos. All the main air channels are unobstructed and there's no resistance. Temps are far better than I anticipated before the build. Boost clock settles after about 10 mins in at around 1800 at 99% usage with fans doing about 49%. CPU @5 ghz is around 65-71 under a decent 100w load with a almost practically silent fan profile. Not sure if it's the Noctua's that give the impression of silence but I'm pleasantly suprised. Either way delid FTW on these 7700k's.

 

So youre not in need of overclocking the 1080 Ti? One thing I learned with overclocking the Ti is that you can set the memory frequency unnecessarily high which actually results in a drop in performance and simultaneously robs the core of precious wattage. I discovered that +400 on the memory is the sweet spot for my card, it can do +500 (or more, but after discovering the pointlessness I haven't tried) but that results in lower benchmarks scores than +400. Having two Afterburner profiles on hotkey, if I sit there and go back and forth between +400 and +450 I lose about 4 FPS at 2560x1440 with +450. Actually this is how I dialed in my memory overclock; conversely +375 yields less performance than +400. What is happening is Error Correction, where too high of a memory OC induces errors and a drop in performance. The OC'ability varies from card to card. But overall I feel I lucked out as my card will do 2038 MHz with no additional voltage. It does 1911 MHz simply setting PT to 120%, which I recommend doing if you haven't already done so.

I visit the 1080 Ti forum on OC.net from time to time and I always see people saying they need to run like 1.050v for only 2.0 GHz, so I know I am lucky.

Love this card.

 

Yeah that seems above average. My friend yesterday couldn't get in the 2000s on stock voltage. I actually haven't tested if I got lucky yet. I'd like to be able to get 2000 for nice round numbers sake, but as you mentioned it's a drop in the ocean in overall terms of gaming performance. The card absolutely rips most games to shreds at 1440p. I can't get enough of gaming north of 100fps.
Every Ti card I've had I've been extremely happy with and felt PPD value, I think I'm going to make it the only card I jump to each gen now.

 

Yeah if I didn't need the overclock I wouldn't bother but The Witcher 3 in 3D Vision at 2560x1440 is incredibly taxing and the OC of +120 core / + 400 memory and +120 PT is good for about 10 FPS (20 FPS 2D) here. Most of that is coming from the extra 20% Power Target as this card is power starved in this game. Titanfall 2 is also nice nearly maxed out at 120 FPS. I don't see any harm in this OC as I'm not touching voltage so I say why not.

That Clevo in your signature is amazing! 7700k at 5.2 GHz?! You got a firestrike bench to share? I'm curious. What kind of display does it have? You still in Japan?

 

On my evga gtx 1080 ti sc2 hybrid I can only do +95 on the gpu core and +45 mem. When I go higher on the memory it affects the superposition benchmark. This card is not a good overclocker and it maxes out 2050 and 5544.

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3D Vision is pretty amazing. I actually gave it a crack based on your previous recommendations. I liked it but didn't end up using it much. I think it came down me feeling like the extra horsepower needed to hit 60fps (120 effectively) wasn't worth it because I still wanted 100+ fps. But boy was GTA5 in 3D something to behold - man oh man, I started noticing details I never appreciated before.

Actually I need to update my signature. Yes that Clevo was a beast but sold it on to a fellow NBR member. I was able to complete some cinebench benchmarks at 5.2ghz in Winter but summer is different story. I was able to validate 5.3ghz. It was a better chip than I have right now actually.
The screen was 1440p 120hz TN and quite nice in my opinion. I'm actually not bothered by TN panels at all. IPS is the such an overrated buzz word. I went and got the 24" Acer Predator 1440p 165hz screen which is also a TN - I couldn't be happier.
Lastly, yes I'm still in Japan. Waiting on some news about work position before I make the plunge back home. I'm looking forward to having the space to be able to setup a legit Driving Sim rig with a Rift - something I've wanted to do for a long time.

 

Oh the Rift set-up sounds nice! I've been wanting to try VR, especially after hearing about EVE: Valkyrie but I never seem to have the $400-600 on hand to swing it. Is your Acer 165 Hz monitor 3D Vision? GTA 5 looks great but the problem with that game, among many others, is that 3D Vision induces a "3 Core" bug where the engine suddenly only has 3 Cores to work with. I like the depth in the game if I'm just sitting there, but as soon as I move around I get sick of it as my poor CPU is limited to half it's cores and can only muster maybe 40-45 FPS (60% GPU utilization lol).

Not all games suffer from this though, and for me, I only really appreciate 120 FPS if it's a face paced shooter such as Doom 2016 or Titanfall 2, but if it's a 3rd person action exploration game, I will take 60 FPS 3D Vision over 120+ FPS 2D every time.

Right now I am fortunate to still have Mad Max, MGS: Phantom Pain, TW3 and Rise of the Tomb Raider to work through in 3D Vision, and if Middle Earth: Shadow of War uses the same engine as Shadow of Mordor I will have that to go through as well. Shadow of Mordor is drop dead holy crap immersive with 3D Vision, you have to try it.

Make sure you use the fixes for any of the aforementioned titles:

http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2014/11/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-dx11-3d.html

http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt.html

Some TN's are ok, my current monitor is a TN, albeit an 8-bit TN which is a step above 6-bit TN's (Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 144Hz 4 ms response time). I really like this monitor actually, 3D Vision support is extremely rare or non-existent at this point with newer monitors; I can see myself scouring the used-hardware market for another one if something should ever happen to it, I like it that much. Oh and my previous monitor was an Eizo Foris IPS, widely regarded as the best in terms of color accuracy etc. and to be honest this TN is nearly as good if not indistinguishable (it does suffer from poor viewing angles, but that's my only gripe).

Are you teaching English in Japan by any chance?

Yeah the economy in the U.S. isn't so good for us 99%'ers. If youre part of the .01% it's a utopia, but yeah the rest of us, 65% of our income or more is going to rent (to the property owners, the .01%). Tired of the BS, wish I could speak another language I would have expatriated a long time ago.

 

Hey fella. Still in Japan. Not teaching English but working for an English Education company.. close

Yeah the economy is fragile everywhere from what I've been observing. Australia has a nice fat housing bubble to look forward to - highest housing dept to income, lowest discretionary spending - treason and high crime consistently presented as blunders to keep the charade going. The list goes on. It's quite impressive how much tyranny Australians are happy to take on.