The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Liquid Ultra vs Liquid Pro?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Raidriar, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. Raidriar

    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

    Reputations:
    1,708
    Messages:
    5,820
    Likes Received:
    4,311
    Trophy Points:
    431
    I'm having some trouble deciding between these two compounds. From what I gather, Liquid ultra gives better idle/inactive temperatures while liquid bro gives better load temperatures. Does anybody have first hand experience comparing the two?
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2015
    Mr. Fox likes this.
  2. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

    Reputations:
    3,147
    Messages:
    9,944
    Likes Received:
    4,194
    Trophy Points:
    431
    So basically Liquid Ultra can replace my A/C in summer? :p
     
  3. Raidriar

    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

    Reputations:
    1,708
    Messages:
    5,820
    Likes Received:
    4,311
    Trophy Points:
    431
    For clarification, CLU seems to give lower CPU temperature during idle/inactivity vs Liquid Pro which seems to give lower temperatures under stress/load.
     
  4. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

    Reputations:
    3,147
    Messages:
    9,944
    Likes Received:
    4,194
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Oh so you meant idle not ambient temperature. Gotcha. ;)
     
  5. encor50

    encor50 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    270
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    41
    but i hear that the metal thermal paste is danger for the cpu or gpu if you dont apply it right ?
     
  6. Raidriar

    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

    Reputations:
    1,708
    Messages:
    5,820
    Likes Received:
    4,311
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Supposedly, but I have not had that problem. You have to be really sloppy/lazy to apply it wrong. I have it liquid ultra on my father's Alienware 17 (i7-4710HQ), my X220 Tablet (i5-2520M), and I had it on my M18x R2 (i7-3920XM) before I foolishly reverted to IC diamond and paid the price. I get 88 deg with ICD versus the 79-82 I used to get with liquid ultra, so it is safe to say I will be going back to liquid ultra or liquid pro. When/if my Alienware 18 gets here, I will definitely be using either liquid ultra or liquid pro on the 4930MX and the GTX 780Ms
     
  7. scarastisis

    scarastisis Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Is it true that when reapplying liquid ultra on either cpu or gpu after it was applied previously, the heatsinks need to be sanded and resurfaced. Anyone have any experience with doing this?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  8. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,727
    Messages:
    29,852
    Likes Received:
    59,675
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Stay with Liquid ultra. Liquid pro is worse to take off and also not as easy to apply like liquid ultra.
     
    Mr. Fox likes this.
  9. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

    Reputations:
    37,250
    Messages:
    39,344
    Likes Received:
    70,712
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The test results I have seen do not show a meaningful difference in load temps (like 1 or 2°C difference) between Pro and Ultra, but as @Papusan stated, everyone that has used both has stated that Liquid Pro is much more difficult to clean up. Apparently, it gets much harder. I have never used Liquid Pro, so I don't have any first-hand experience that I can share.

    An M18xR2 that I just repaired for an acquaintance had Liquid Ultra that I applied in November. I changed the motherboard out a month ago. The Liquid Ultra was still totally liquid. I did not have any more Liquid Ultra on hand at the time. I used the brush they provide with the kit and re-spread what was already there across the die and heat sink and the load temps on that machine are exactly the same as before. That's pretty amazing. I benched the crap out of the CPU for several days and it held up fine using the old paste, so now I'm not even going to bother re-pasting it.
     
    TBoneSan and Papusan like this.
  10. ssj92

    ssj92 Neutron Star

    Reputations:
    2,446
    Messages:
    4,446
    Likes Received:
    5,690
    Trophy Points:
    581
    So it's safe to say to go with liquid ultra ;)

    To those who have used liquid ultra, does it last a long time even with constant 80-85C cpu temps? I'm looking into replacing my IC Diamond since it doesn't seem to last more than a few months.
     
  11. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

    Reputations:
    37,250
    Messages:
    39,344
    Likes Received:
    70,712
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Yes, it lasts a long time. @Papusan applied his over a year ago and no signs of degradation. I keep taking my M18xR2 apart for different experiments, but I've got almost a year on the Liquid Ultra applied to the 4930MX in the AW18 and it runs as cool as the day I applied it. I've got IC Diamond on the P570WM because the heat sink fit is too sloppy to use Liquid Ultra.
     
    Papusan and ssj92 like this.
  12. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,727
    Messages:
    29,852
    Likes Received:
    59,675
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I have used Liquid ultra now nearly 1.5 year. Same temperature on my i7-4930mx as 10 February 2014. Zero change. Why use an other paste ? Ic7 or Gelid extreme can't compete. I'll newer go back to an other paste. Never...
     
  13. TankJr_

    TankJr_ Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Not sure if still relevant but i would strongly advise against using liquid pro. At the first glance, it seemed to give me amazing results (71 max temp in XTU, x40). However, a few months later, i had temp issues again. I opened up my laptop and saw that liquid pro turned into a dust on the surface of my GPUs and CPU. Moreover, it was a pain to get it off the heatsinks. I had to use that metal scrapper which came with the paste.
     
  14. Raidriar

    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

    Reputations:
    1,708
    Messages:
    5,820
    Likes Received:
    4,311
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Yep, with with liquid ultra this time. Idle temp are still high, but load temps at 42x4 are only 73 C vs the 88 it was with ICD.
     
    Mr. Fox likes this.