How to Overclock the Alienware 18 and Haswell CPU (or actually have it run full stock Turbo Speed)

There are several who regretted that they don't purchased the older i7-4930mx instead. In addition it is also cheaper Many believe that the latest model's in the same processor series always is better because it has 100MHz higher clock frequency

dimobr Set power management(plan)in windows to maximum performance instead of balanced performance. Remember you use an extreme processor Test also with Wprime 1024 version 1.55 (The HWBOT version of wPrime) http://www.wprime.net/Download/

 

I always use the maximum performance mode, unless I'm doing something wrong with the ThrottleStop and you noticed the printscreen ... am I?
Overclocking is something new to me, and do not know how to properly use ThottleStop in general I just do the reading of the temperature.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-288#post-9987036

 

You need to update ThrottleStop to version 8.00. The link is in my signature.

 

Can you provide a link? can't view signatures in tapatalk. Thank you

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ThrottleStop 8.00 beta 2
https://www.sendspace.com/file/b4oure

 

Hi everyone-
So I used the exact settings on my AW18 on the BIOS and XTU - plus I followed Mr. Fox's guide for hwinfo64 .
Within 10 mins of running guild wars 2 my aw18 froze with the screechy sound of death and I had to shut down- any one else having the same issue?
Also - I just repasted with liquid ultra therefore Im wondering if it's a thermal problem at all???

Any thoughts?

 

I am geting a m18 with 4940mx cpu ..how do i overclock it are there any options in the bios also whats the max stable it oc via bios options

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Start to read post #1 in this tread.

 

The overclock settings are not ideal for your CPU. Every CPU is not the some. Some require more power or voltage than others do. Lower the multipliers by 1x each and see how it does. Also, but sure your baseclock is no more than 100.30 because that screeching noise and hard freeze can happen if baseclock is set too high.

 

Hello I just overclocked my Alienware 18 4900MQ with the same specs from this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...erclockers-for-the-alienware-17.742785/page-3
It is stable. The problem is my cpu temperature., it runs between 62-100 degrees Celsius. Isn't 100 degrees a bit too much? I am using CPUID HWMonitor for the temperatures.
Thank you in advance

 

See this for the solution: Liquid Ultra Demo

 

Shut up with Hwmonitor. Rather use Hwinfo64. Better monitoring and you can manually adjust the fans.

 

Those are the current settings I have on my 4900MQ Alienware 18. My cpu always falls in current limit throttling. Did I miss a setting?

 

Double Post

 

@Mr. Fox Can you take a look.
Your i7-4900mq power settings in new version Xtu... Missing some settings. Can you post a picture of your bios (advanced settings).


I think the last two versions (6.0.2.2 and 6.0.2.8) of Xtu lacks some power settings. This is a picture taken of i7-4900mq(AW18) power settings from an older Xtu version.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ng-uitlity-problem.729129/page-2#post-9341245

 

I don't even use XTU anymore

 

http://s11.postimg.org/4wj1yr1jn/IMG_1627.jpg
this is my bios settings. And yes indeed since I updated the XTU I have less options

 

I see nothin missing

 

Only newer Xtu lack some choices. See if you can get hold of a former Xtu version (I think before 6.0.2.2) and uninstall the last Xtu version. Then you will have more choices in Xtu as the pict of Xtu above. Also recommend Throttlestop guide in this forum. I had i7-4900Mq earlier but I did not remember how high you could put maximum power settings in bios. Turn up Long duration pwr limit, Long duration time windows and Short duration pwr limit options if possible in bios. Put better settings in Xtu and test whether this works. Then you can use Throttlestop in next step. Use bios A09 or 12. 1.200v core voltage is enough for up to 4.2-4.3Ghz if you are lucky with the chips. 1.155 - 1.175v core voltage should be more than enough for your 4x38Ghz. Remember that you are risking NO POST if core voltage become too low in relation to the quality of your chip. You just have to try it out. Possible others in the forum can give a better answer at how far down you can turn core voltage on your i7-4900Mq at 4x3.8Ghz. In principle so are 1.200v stock voltage too much.
This shows bios setup with a Mx processor.
http://i.imgur.com/S4b0vsR.jpg

 

I will try to look for an earlier version. I still dont understand why Intel would limit our options with their new updates. Thank you Papusan for taking the time to help me out. I actually lowered my core voltage to 1.85V. I will install throttlestop.

 

Hi, mates!
Just became a part of an Alienware family. Bought 2nd hand Alienware 18 - 4930mx with gtx780m sli in perfect condition deployed March 2014. The previous owner was not an OC fan, so the laptop has all the factory settings. I already looked through few topics concerning Alienware 18 OC, stability/cooling issues and now my brain has an overheating problems due to and excessive information quantity.
So, I am seeking for an advice.
Decided to apply luquid ultra for CPU and GPUs. My aim is to have stable slightly/moderately overclocked settings for CPU (maybe around 4.3 ghz) and GPUs and keep them cool enough rather than queeze max from the laptop.
The question is what will be the best solution? What version of BIOS to use? Is it better to use OC level 1 in A10 or manual setting in bios A09 + XTU? What will be the best settings to apply in this case?
Also, wondering about GPU OC. What will be the best stable settings for 780m sli and what software to use? It seems strange to me, but both of my GPUs have default clock only 771 Mhz. I saw 823/850 Mhz on other machines instead.
Appreciate any advice on my questions.

p.s. by the way, are there any advantages of an upgrading to windows 10 instead of 8.1?

 

Upgrade to Win 7. Best advice you can get . Bios A09 + Xtu/Trottlestop. Newer use Dell's crippled Oc profiles. Ask others about bios A12. Follow from page 1 in this thread if you want to Oc your Aw18. Use mod vbios so your graphics cards work as expected. https://forum.techinferno.com/ Sign up and post 5 posts that allowing you to download mod vbios.

Do not use EVGA Precision X16 to Oc graphics cards. Only use Nvidia inspector. See importent link. http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...illing-alienware-and-clevo-lcd-panels.779449/

Hwinfo64 for manual control of the fans http://imgur.com/a/UYC3s#0 Hwinfo + RTSS is also great for osd. http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/rtss-rivatuner-statistics-server-download.html

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ly-have-it-run-full-stock-turbo-speed.734696/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-liquid-ultra-any-tips-before-i-start.741745/
Gtx780m default base clock is 771Mhz.

 

Papusan, thanks a lot!

In fact my machine was already updated to win10 by previous owner and now thinking of clean win7 install. I've already read many pages of these threads and now trying to figure out what will be the best settings for CPU. Will keep learning.

 

Hello Is Mr. Fox can install a CPU of this type in Alienware M18XR1: I7 3940XM CPU 3.0-3.98M QS QCH8 PGA notebook CPU PROCESSOR

 

Hello Is Mr. Fox can install a CPU of this type in Alienware M18XR1: I7 3940XM CPU 3.0-3.98M QS QCH8 PGA notebook CPU PROCESSOR

 

No the R1 was second generation like the i7-2960XM

 

Tank you for reply!


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Yes, but 2960XM is an excellent CPU. If you have an M18xR1 that you intend to keep for a while, you owe it to yourself to get one, along with a 3-pipe heat sink. That will breathe new life into your monster and you can overclock the ever-loving crap out of it with an SLV7 system BIOS mod.

 

I want one, but the price is stupid high. I already acquired a triple pipe for my M18x R1, but finding a suitable priced 2920XM/2960XM is a challenge.

 

Yes good, Happy new year!


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Is it possible to overclock my 4910mq by XTU? I find it possible to set 4.1ghz for 4 cores, but when i run the fritz chess benchmark, the score will be lower than the score that i set 3.7ghz for 4 cores due to the underclocking cause by overheating and also maybe the tdp limits. I found my cpu will underclocking when temp above 90. Is there anyway to unlock it?

i score 13700 when i set 3.7ghz for 4 cores, and only 12900 for 4.1ghz for 4 cores.

 

Yes. You can also use Throttlestop. Don't use the Oc profile in bios. It is crippled by Dell. Compare 4.1ghz vs 3.7GHz in Wprime 1024M(8threads) and Cinebench 11.5. See if you get the same result. Put high-performance and not balanced in Win power plan. Monitor with Hwinfo64 and post pict and the results.
http://www.putme.net/wPrime155.zip
http://downloads.guru3d.com/CineBENCH-11.5-download-2475.html

 

Haswell overclocking and voltage mods baffle me. I have a 4940MX in my Alienware 18, and I have it set to "default" adaptive core voltage with a -110mV undervotl on 40 x 4. With normal XTU stress test and throttlestop stress test, it will only draw about 1.0860V (which is great), but as soon as a use the HWBOT benchmark built into XTU, voltage spikes to 1.16V (as do temps...)

WHY?

 

Because Haswell and Dellienware

 

Probably Because XTU Bench is Prime95 with a fancy wrapper. Try static voltage instead. Xtu benchmark is harder than the stress test

 

Hi guys,

can someone here post a *reliable* XTU settings for overclocking a 4910 MQ ? What I see on page 54 by Scarcy is not really working for me using XTU 6.0.2.8. Can't see all the values I would feel comfortable with.

Cheers.

 

No silicone is equal. Depends if you have a winning number in the lottery silicon. Make your own Oc settings inn Xtu/Throttlestop or take a look at Hwboot and see if any i7-4910mq Xtu profiles fit your processor. Also look at some Xtu profiles for i7-4900mq.
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_3575&cores=4#start=0#interval=20
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_2882&cores=4#start=0#interval=20

 

FWIW I leave Windows power plan in balanced when overclocking such as my i7-4700MQ. What sort of detriment are you seeing?

 

I was not thinking about me. But more on JUAN CHEN... (I've always used maximum performance for Cpu/Gpu). I'm not to concerned about the earth or my higher electric bill, LOL. If JUAN CHEN puts high performance and not balanced in Win power plan, then it's easier for him to see if clock speed have droped in bench tests afterwards. I know you can do this with Xtu monitoring but Hwinfo works too. Harder to see in Hwinfo how low the clock speed have been in bench test since the CPU idles at 800Mhz with balanced power plan.

 

Unfortunately, this doesn't answer my question. It just irritates and confuses even more.

Make my own OC settings ?

I am not going to risk damaging my processor by playing around with values in XTU which I do not know.

And which XTU profiles ? Where ?

Does anybody here have an XTU profile which he can upload that works with the 4910 MQ ?

Or screenshots with the values ?

Thanks.

 

You can brick your laptop if you use someone else's OC profile in this or other forum... Trial and error is the right way to go. As said earlier ... No chips are equal. What works for others might not work for you.
If you are in any of the test results in the link; There you can see something called XTU settings. Press this and you see TRY THESE SETTINGS USING INTEL XTU. As this example ↓↓↓
http://hwbot.org/submission/2730991_kantana_xtu_core_i7_4910mq_1083_marks


You can see and test several Xtu profiles in the link as I shoved you http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_3575&cores=4#start=0#interval=20
This is at your own risk....
This example is from an Aw18 with i7-4910mq in Hwboot http://hwbot.org/submission/3049108_julianm._xtu_core_i7_4910mq_934_marks

 

Still getting stuff ready on ya'lls end?

 

I think this is already posted somewhere. You can try these settings and see how they work.

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guys, need your advice...
based on dozens of posts in this thread (mostly on Mr. Fox's posts) applied slight overclock to my 4930mx in AW18. Set in BIOS multipliers 4x43, adjusted Power limits to <120>, OC profiles not in use and no other changes in BIOS. Starting Trottlestop 8.0b (even with no clock/chipset/multipliers settings checked) with some delay will result in (very often, but not always) OS freeze accompanied with CPU fan full blast and OS restart. Just after system restart may blast and shut down again (up to 3 times) without starting any programs. No changes to voltage done in TStop (1.2V adaptive). Tried both A09 and A10 - situation remains the same. At the time of OS freeze CPU is about 50-52C.

And there is one more strange sign - if I start TS bench or any other kind of CPU bench - CPU temps from 50 jump to 88-90 and drop down just in 1 second.. I have CLP applied dated 11 month with no any OC. May be it's just the problem of thermal paste? And can it be connected with my first problem?

 

I didnt realise I could overclock the 4900MQ untill just now.

Tried this that Mr.Fox posted from the other thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/i7-4900mq-isnt-overclocked-from-factory-how-to-do-it.742825/

The factory settings are screwed up really bad, as you have already discovered in your benchmark thread post. You'll have to fix this on your own because you already have the factory settings and they are the reason your machine does not function properly. Dell/Alienware is aware of these problems, and they have been for months. We are all hopeful that a fix will be forthcoming sometime soon.

Download and install Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU) and lower your Core Voltage to approximately 1.165V (stock voltage is way too high). Be sure the Core Current Limit is set to at least 112.000A and Processor Current Limit is set to a minimum of 95.000A (the factory default of 55.000A is way too low). Set all of your multipliers to 40x. If the CPU drops below 4.0GHz under load, bump it from 95.000A to 118.000A and see if that helps. Prepare yourself for higher CPU temps because the fan tables are messed up. You may find that setting Processor Current Limit is necessary at each boot. The setting does not stick permanently for many folks.

and its running at constant 3.95 Ghz now.

Is that all I need to do?

Is the the limit you can push the 4900MQ?

Noticed the core frequency is thottling though under the stress test in XTU, seems if it goes over 90 it slows down.

Is this normal?

 

read more of this thread and can get the 4900 to run at 3.9 pretty stable with custom fans, if not it gets super hot, if I push it any higher it goes high into the 90's and crashes when it reaches 100 C.

Will try repasting with liquid Ultra and try and push it to 4.2.

 

You're making some respectable progress. Good job. Yes, when it hits 90°C thermal throttling will begin, so you definitely need to use some CLU and get the temps under control. Then things should start to fall into place much better.

 

Thanks

ive tried using these settings and benching with cinebench: http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/screen2-png.107644/

with fans at max using HWINFO it can run the benhcmark without crashing, temps get up to 94C on one of the cores, but my speed wont reach 4.2 when set under multiplier it peaks just over 4.00.

What would the reason for this be? not enough power for turbo boost max or core current limit?

I tried using this profile and was getting faster speeds but it quickly crashes as temps get too high: http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/xtu-4-2ghz-stable-png.114655/

Know I need to repaste to get it running stable temperatures but its fun seeing how high I can push it without it for the time being.

 

Yeah, those power limits are pretty low. Increasing them to 130W or 150W might help, but you're not going to get anywhere with temps that high. You need to fix that first and then work on dialing in the OC settings.