Help plz AW 18 gtx 1070 won’t recognise

Hi pp, I bought an gtx 1070 mxm 3.0 but it won’t be recognised in bios already I have set SG mode sometimes it is recognise when I reset the pc through optimal default settings on bios but wouldn’t be recognise in windows (((

 

Even in SG mode you will still need to mod the .inf file in the nvidia drivers

 

I know but the gpu doesn’t load on windows

 

As far as I am aware it will display as Microsoft Display Adapter until drivers are installed, at least that how it was for me with my 17 R1.

I dont have any direct experience with the AW18 though so I suppose it could be different...

 

Nobody that does tested black pcb gtx 1070 on AW18?

 

Overall its been mixed results on the Quadro p5000 PCB GTX 1070 cards.

Pictures would help a lot, device manager for one

 

Nothing to show, I guess that is not working the gpu just the pc doesn’t show it either in bios so I guess that is dead

 

Try reseating it and making sure you are in SG mode, easy way to tell is if the HD 4600 shows up in the device manager.

 

With resetting you mean the hard reset way? Removing ram wait for the beep and placing it again? I can try this tomorrow but am not will be lucky surely haha yes the SG it’s on mine gtx 880m get read but not the gtx 1070, do you know how does eBay work for this things? I paid 270 euro for this crap I hope to get refund :/

 

Ebay is the worse place on earth for sellers, open a claim and you get your money back.

No I mean to reseat the MXM 1070, remove, make sure its clear of anything dust etc etc then reinstall, same thing for the 1070, make sure the contacts are clean

 

Also maybe try nvflash's --display command to see if there's anything on the VBIOS. I used it to check thoroughly for anything and turned out to have a missing VBIOS.

 

Right, but I have clean the lanes already with alcohol I put the gtx 880 thermal pads, I thought damn could be that I have broken something? I put gtx 880 and it was oke, I managed to reach windows once and the gpu was in device manager, and hw info noticed it as gtx 1070 but I had to restart and it disappeared again, now I can’t see anymore either in bios, before doing optimal default settings in bios and switching in sg the gpu was there detected in bios now nothing maybe I can try to see if nvflash can read it. The reseller doesn’t seem to get it back

 

Yeah I want to try it tomorrow but I don’t know if it will read it I hope so, maybe it has bad bios

 

If you take it out again, if its possible, try to take some up close pictures of the MXM card, if there are any abnormalities then it would be a good way to save some time and just send it back, if nothing then continue with the troubleshooting.

Its been a while since I have messed with this scenario from my 17 R1 but its a bit different so I cant use my knowledge verbatim.

@Maxware79 Have you had any experience with the AW18? I cant recall what your primary system is at the moment, was it the M18x R2 or the AW18?

 

Oke later with sunlight I ll take some close pics

 

I have owned an 18 but only briefly. The M18x is not that different though.

If you are on SG mode then the BIOS should display both the Integrated graphics and the Nvidia card (even if no driver is installed). If the 1070 is not showing in the BIOS with SG then you either have a faulty card or as The Receiver says, it isn't seated right or the connectors are dirty.
In SG mode it should then display both cards in the Device manager with the 1070 listed as a Microsoft Basic Display Adapter if not driver is installed.

There is also a chance that the vBIOS is wrong as was the case when I installed my 1070. If you install GPU-Z it should show you your vBIOS version and you can cross-check this with TechPowerUp to make sure you have a Dell one flashed. When looking up vBIOS' on TechPowerUp make sure you select the Unverified option in the search dropdowns as it will give you a much bigger range to go through. Some other manufacturer vBIOS' will also work but some aren't compatible. In my case, the 1070 was still recognised in the BIOS but I would get a Code 43 when I tried to install a driver.

It sounds like you've done everything right so my guess is that there is a fault with the card but it's hard to diagnose over a forum. Once you check that the vBIOS is correct then you'll have a better idea.

 

Here we go, some pics about the gpu, it looks not damaged I guess

 

I give up, just it won’t work . Nvflash doesn’t notice any nvidia device either. Now, someone had problems like this on eBay getting something that simply doesn’t work but it was selling as working item? I have a chance to get refunded?

 

Before trying getting a refund, have you tried rebooting and trying the nvflash software again? My Zbook did this with Nvflash and the GPU seemed to go to sleep. If it doesn't help then something's definitely wrong with the card.

 

Yeah just tried it also but if it doesn’t load on bios, the gpu can’t be detected by anything. Maybe it can be working with hardware programmer if it has bad bios, but I don’t care anymore those gecubes are just craps and AW 18 too

 

I was happy because it S the only pc that I have and due that SLI is dead I wanted to upgrade also because next month will be released cb2077 and it’s an dx12 game and surely without mgpu support, but no luck

 

just send it back, there isnt a question of if you get refunded. Its guaranteed because ebay is the worst place to sell anything at all

 

I ve started the stuff for the refunded I must to wait because the seller says that was working but something let me think that when he send it he didn’t had the laptop for testing in that moment.
anyways thanks all for the replies . But new problem came up now, the thermal pads that I was using before I modified some of those for the gecube crap, and now I have some problems with these in the main gtx 880m it get hot and uses more tdp than the other one , but I don’t want to wait for new thermal pads ones from China so, what can I use to get better contact for VRMs to the heat sink ??

 

Here's what you need to do to be sure. If you can check the card in another working laptop where it is 100% supported and you also need to check your video card slot on the motherboard, install any other one and see if it will work or not and then make a conclusion.

 

Nope I don’t have another notebook to test, and yes slots working properly

 

I have asked @DaMafiaGamer in this thread :
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...msi-gtx-1070-mxm.818900/page-32#post-11050929
but no reply...

Check this topic that I made:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-updated-gtx-1070-mxm-model-thread-2020.834354/

your card is the last model in the list right? similar to GTX 980M?

If the card is detected in your bios, should try to blindflash it with MSI bios but I have never tried it... this is all experimental with this black PCB card...

 

@TheReciever
Can you link other threads with issues on that specific model? thank you

 

Are you sure that you're in SG mode? Just need to confirm this because the card will not show up in the BIOS if you're on iGFX

 

Not off the top of my head, It was once attempted for use in the 7710 or 7720 Mobile Precision laptop, it worked but had some weird power limit that prevented what most would consider acceptable standard operation.

I think there was also a 17 R1 user that had it work for a while to have it blow later on and he ended up scraping the machine and moving on after that.

Basically these cards are very sensitive to the VRM cooling. Some laptops have active cooling near the VRMs but most do not and is a problem. Even that on my 17 R1 would trigger immediate shutdowns because the VRMs would get too hot on the card. I fixed it with some copper mosfet heatsinks and removed a portion of the lid with 3x 120mm fans as I didnt have the means of moving a heatpipe over it and was in communications with a chinese ebay seller to make one but ultimately gave up because of the language barrier and lack of interest on his end.

They work, and work more often than not but of all the cards I have seen in use, the MSI and Zotac are the better choices in my estimation, better built and better track record here on the forums.

The MSI 1070 is 115w despite what all the ebay listings claim.

 

Of course , am not so noob this is the deal, the gpu at first after load optimal default settings on bios it was notice in bios but after restart the pc it wasn’t , also if it was in bios it wasn’t loaded in windows , just one time it did. But after that I restarted it was gone . The wrong thing it that I didn’t flashed an dell bios in that moment. Anyways now it never be recognised I have an gtx 880m with bad video, so she s dead just left one gtx 880m. I don’t will get another one for sure, MSI 1070 are hard to find and they cost at least 400 euro used of course. I love notebooks but they are too expensive haha just I’d like to have an clevo p870 with desktop cpu and no power limits, and gpus upgrades in easy way, but this machine it’s also very hard to get one these days I don’t know if after refund I’ll trying to get another gtx 1070 bad experiences the bad thing it’s that I don’t know how to play cb2077

 

Yes the card was that one , module looks very poor

 

Indeed, MSI gtx 1070 its well manufactdes has more and better vrms, it can handle better high frequencies for sure and being more efficient also it would stay at 115w with higher clock than an gecube one

 

Its a bit of a moot point in the 4th gen systems I dont think they can handle more than stock wattage on the MXM slots anyways

 

Just had to check. If it's on SG mode and NVFlash can't find a display adapter then there's a good chance that the card is dead. If it was just a vBIOS issue it should still be detected. If you have an Nvidia driver installed on the machine then remove it with DDU and try again. It's a long shot but anything is worth a try.

 

I have tried all kind of stuff already haha no one here are selling an gtx 1070 working? I checked on marketplace but nothiiiing

 

They have dried up lately, haven't seen one for sale for a while and I wouldn't be willing to buy one from China.

 

Come to think of it not sure if anyone would sell to you anyways, you dont have much time spent here so its rather easy for you to cut bait and send back a dead card.

not saying you would of course, but its happened before so people are bit more cautious. @Rengsey R. H. Jr. tends to have too many components and not enough time lol Maybe he can chime in who knows. I would work on getting your money back first of course.

 

I bought my 1070 from @Rengsey R. H. Jr. as well as a few other things and he shipped them over to Australia for me. He's my go-to guy on here

 

Got it, so time to build a desktop machine better and not worries I guess that an rtx 3060 would be priced at 300 euro and it’d be an great performance jump maybe with an cheap core i5 with lga 1151 for future upgrades till i9 9900k and asus/ msi mobo. Sucks that laptops are dead, nowadays bga and no way to real upgrades, old good time (m17x) are gone

 

Many years ago I had an m17x r3 first with an gtx 560 after I get an 6990m (worst gpu ever) and for last an hd 7970m great for that time and cpu from i7 2670 to 2920xm great time with that hahah

 

Yeah they are all but gone but some of us like to keep throwing money at them. There is talk that standard MXM 2080 cards will be released early next year so I’m sure some of us will try them in our old laptops. Yeah it’s cheaper to build a desktop but there’s something fun about keeping an 8-10 year old laptop pumping


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My first Alienware was a brand new M17x R3 and my wife still uses it. I’ve probably owned 40-50 Alienwares since then


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Mxm 2080? Are you sure? What is the vendor that will do that?

 

Alienware was great till m18x r2.. after that they changed way to be . Also because there are a lot of gaming laptop these days , before you were the only one that had that now they are everywhere it’s not so unique as used to be before in 2010 I had an desktop with water cooling etc I was very nerd with that. But I discover laptop gaming devices and I fall in love with those but at the time was nice to have one of these, that’s sad that laptop become what that they are now. I’d like to keep on laptop but for example I can’t get an clevo , they are gone the good old ones machines. Some years ago in eBay were some selling new laptop without cpu like the p870gm for 600 euro that is a good machine but they all are gone

 

Don’t quote me but I believe it was Zotac. There is already a Clevo MXM 2080 but others haven’t been able to get them to work. There’s a guy on the Dell Community forum who claims to have a Clevo 2080 working in his 18 with no modifications needed but I’m yet to see any proof


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I heard that , maybe an clevo rtx 2080 can work without power supply but I guess with hard throttling, but clevo gpu doesn’t fit in mxm slot 0, but maybe fit in the second slot but too expensive test hahaha

 

Possibly but you have to run a card in the primary slot. Can’t just run from the slave


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No I saw that pic of the module she s to large also for second slot because AW18 has pcie x2 for the wlan in that place max an zotac gtx 1080 can fit in mxm second slot that has the perfect shape. But I don’t know if in sg it would work in slave position

 

Ah so there is no way to run none of those haha

 

Okay guys i get refunded at least. now my choice to try buying a new one ( the last one was from a private seller item was used) or i don't know ahhaha