Far cry 3 performance

I just updated to the newest beta drivers, 310.70, and I can tell you that my microstutter is worse. ???? Crazy that with a 3920xm cpu, and dual 680's, that I can't get buttery smooth all the time. It mostly plays fantastic but, not really sure what's up with the stut-stut-stutter. Noticed that if I'm in a area, and everything is running great, and I kill an animal...right where my viewpoint passes the area the dead animal is in, I get stutter. The living animals in the area don't seem to have an effect. That's just one example. Guess this program needs to be optimized a bit better.

 

So anymore progress on this game or is it just broken?
I got it today but can't try it till I get home.
From reading this thread it sounds like there is little, if any performance gain from SLI/CF.
Looks like I'll have a 40-55 frame stutter-fest to look forward to.

 

I posted this in another thread, but try out the stock 302.77 drivers. They work perfectly for me and some other guys. We all have a single 680 so I don't know how the driver fares in ski. Try it out anyways

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Yeah, this game is a mess at the moment. Ubisoft needs to get its act together and work with NVIDIA on getting these drivers fully optimized with this game for sli. Been a total fail so far imo.

 

No progress yet...the drivers really haven't fixed much of anything. I would say it is a broken product so far. I should not have to run this game in DirectX 9 on my setup...been pretty dissapointed so far.

 

My rig is nothing special, and I'm not having any problems with this game. I have almost 35 hours on it.

Here is what I have done, 80 fps and pretty smooth.

Turn off any AA you're running. Even 2x is extremely demanding. At 1080p I can't say it's necessary anyway.
Turn off VSYNC. With the game constantly hunting between 60 and 30 fps, you're going to see the fps moving around a good bit.
Start dialing down the Post and Shadows until you're at an acceptable fps.

Every other setting can be at maximum. An easy way to see if CF/SLI is broken is obviously to turn one card off and see if your fps remains the same, or maybe even gets better.

FC3 really is a great game, with a lot of cool things to do that weren't in FC2. There are some hiccups. Hopefully they'll get ironed out.

 

Thanks for the reply fellas,
I had a chance to test it out. It seems things run alot nicer with CF off. There is no real gain from using CF other than an extra 5-10 frames with some stutter as baggage.
TurboedTalon, Iv found those settings to work pretty well using 1 gpu. Actually the AA blurs too much of the detail in the leaves and foliage.
Im not sure if I should start playing as is or twiddle my thumbs until a fix in released.

 

Yes, what you mentioned above is pretty much the game running in DX9. I as many others don't have as many issues when we are running that way. My main problem is that WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FORCE DX9..it should run in DX11 fine with our setups. Also, I also noticed that you had 7970M's...apparently ubisoft worked with amd on this product...NOT nvidia.

 

Yeah the games a mess. Its fine in DX9 but where is the fun in that.
Ill leave this game alone until its fixed. I didnt buy my m18x to be playing with 1 gpu at sub 40 fps.

 

Btw, what are the major differences on fc3, between dx9 and dx11? Mostly lighting effects?

 

those using older drivers (which work great btw) if you need the sli profile for fc3 pm me.

 

Hey i'm new to this so i don't think i can PM you but I need this. thanks

 

While you guys are having fun, I'm experiencing solid 60 FPS most of the time BUT a temporary freeze every half a minute or so. Sometimes just a split second, some times as long as 5-10 seconds but never a single crash. It happens right from the main menu when the game starts. I've tried DX 11/9, minimum settings, Crossfire on/off, OC on/off etc. Temps are 60-70 and GPU clocks are not changing in-game. Drivers are Catalyst 12.11 Beta 11 with CAP 2. Someone got a theory on this?

Despite that annoying issue I still played about 5 hours on the day I installed it. What a game!

 

No theories here GTO, something aint quite right with these 12..11 b11's

I finally got this game running after hours of screwing around !! I had to use 12.11 beta 11 with the CCC from 12.8 (pretty dodgy)
Now I'm running with everything maxed with x4 AA. I cant believe my eyes. GPU's are being maxed..not much juice left over.

 

That sounds great, TBoneSan! How on earth did it occur to you to try something that weird to begin with?

I managed to wiggle my way out of those freezes too so I'm happy where I am.

 

I was reading how some of the CCC versions are the cause for BSOD's somewhere.
Good to hear you've got things running nice too. The game surely pushes the limits. Are you playing with Vsync on ?

 

There's going to be some give and take. The game is gorgeous and there is so much to do. Isn't DX11 more about tessellation than anything else? Having AA off and running reduced Post Effect doesn't mean you're running in DX9, does it?

The game is getting way too much attention for Ubisoft to not address the issues. Until then, disable CF/SLI, and dial a couple of settings down. The game is quite playable.

 

Yes v-sync is usually a must for me as screen tearing can be quite persistent otherwise. Been hooked on the game all afternoon when I really shouldn't be playing

 

got stuttering but the fps is solid in sli, vsync on 1, max buff frames on 3, msaa off, haven't made a progress whether i lower or max up the settings, all performance output was the same and stuttering is still there, although i get solid fps after the stutter, but it keep going back like 30 secs or more, its kinda annoying, im using the latest beta driver btw 310.70, any suggestion guys?

 

try disabling ingame vsync and turn on adaptive vsync in NVCP

 

This game is a horrible console port and I am wishing they worked with nVidia instead. Maybe wouldn't have so many dodgy performance issues. MSAA is a must for this game otherwise it's pixel city to the max. MSAA at 8 is just bare-able, but a lot of their graphical features are very un-optimized and although they should earn points for giving descriptions for each graphic option, it is really the name of the option but expanded for example:

MSAA: Multisample Anti Aliasing, improves image quality - doesn't all of the options improve that?

Poorly optimized, I prefer Far Cry 2 so far, but we'll see.

 

New patch out today for Far Cry 3. Sadly, there's still no fix for the DirectX 11 performance issues....sigh......

 

I just finished it. It's a very good game but needs to have the performance issues solved. Major stuttering at times. Running with 12.11 BETA 11 Drivers with CAP 2 installed. Ended up playing the rest of the game in windowed mode, which it ran better in, despite having CrossFire. Lol

 

About the stuttering issue, WHAT IS UP WITH THAT CRAP. I dont get it. I only have 6970m crossfire but even if i lower the standarts to say all quality hight and other crap off I get around 100 fps but even with that there is this stutter effect, turning on v sync only makes it worse. Any one else getting this.

 

Yes, I suffer from the same problem in Far Cry 3, and although I've tried everything you can think of the annoying stuttering is still there. Needless to say that all the other (demanding) games play flawlessly with maxed-out settings. I tried: different nvidia drivers, clean OS installations (I have a Win7 and Win8 dual boot in separate hdisks), setting the game to its lowest setting, DX9, SLI enabled and disabled, different vbios, stock and various OC clocks, locking the fps (tried 30/40/45/59/60 to no avail) with respectively with afterburner and precisionX, vsync on and off as well as adaptive, triple buffering on and off, various combinations of all the above-mentioned settings, tinkering with 3D settings in nvidia control pannel, and also with nvidia inspector... again, all games run great, Far Cry 3 still stutters. I also made sure no services or start-up items were interfering with the game and also tried by disabling all OSDs (AW, etc). Nothing seems to work. The game starts smooth but every 5 to 8 seconds it freezes for 2 or 3 seconds. Whatever the initial fps, the stuttering eats up 20fps, for example: if I set it to 100+ it'll drop to 70ish; If I set vsync on it'll drop from 60 to 42; if I lock it to 40 it'll drop to 20 or lower, and so on. There is no throttling involved because when the stuttering occurs clocks and temps remain stable (I used HWinfo through afterburner and other OSD options to check them). I even started trying several random advices found through google in obscure tech and game forums... nothing. To be clear, CPU and GPUs perform very well and never over-heat; their temps are always under control. The computer (and the fans) always clear of dust, kept clean and cooled, and all the games I try (Aliens vs Predator 2010, Crysis 1 and 2, Metro 2033, Borderland 2, Rage, and many others) run without issues for hours with no fps drop. I'd say this game is having the upper hand.

 

Are you sure you didnt miss anything? lol jk another thing i noticed is that i get better performance in dx11 than dx9. With everything on high and other stuff off i get bout 100 fps in dx11 and 90 in dx9, anyone else experience this? Also you guys are describing major stuttering for multiple seconds and huge frame drops, in my case the fps never drops by 20 or even 10 fps, however if i stand in one spot and just keep turning with slow speed (easy to do with a controller) it kinda jerks once or twice with in a single revolution but its still noticable and freakin anoying.

 

I see. In my case it drops to -20 no matter the starting fps. It happens even if I stand still looking at the sky--after a few seconds the fps drops and then goes back up again in an annoying stuttering feast. And yes, it's worse if using DX9.

 

Some ideas on possible performance fixes in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/697860-far-cry-3-discussion.html

I've played it a little on my M18 with the X-Fire 7970's and haven't really experienced any stuttering issues or anything of that nature but to be fair I haven't played it a lot nor have I adjusted anything, I just installed it and played it. Couldn't tell you what my frame rate is or anything like that.

 

It doesn't surprise me. Some people having my same or similar configuration and system never experienced any problem with the game; like you, they just installed it and played it without issues. It seems to be affecting only certain systems or specific GPUs. I'm trying to figure out what the common issue might be, becasue if you read my post above I have literally tried all the possible settings, configurations, and tricks I know to no avail.

 

Based on your sig I'm going to guess that your computer is just too fast and powerful to play such a lowly console port. LOL

Seriously, I read through that entire thread the other day and it looks like the issues are totally random, no common processor or video card assoicated with specific issues at all. I'm hoping it will play okay on the rig I bought from Lannbot when it arrives.

 

Yes, it does seem random, but I fell there's something here we are missing, becasue usually after some tinkering (sometimes struggling a bit) I was always able to find a way to fix or lessen an issue with a game. For the first time in years I have fallen short of ideas. I hope you won't have any problem as well; the game, although it's a port, still looks great and well worth enjoying.

 

Haven't been here for a while as M18X has been v well behaved for a long time but....

Has anyone else encountered crashes at the end of Far Cry 3 Multiplayer matches? Freezes up after the cutscene (mercy/pain) thing.

I'm running SP perfectly all maxed out with the newest (I think) AMD Drivers and CAP.

Thanks for any help.

eoinmfoley

 

Ive got a 7970 CF M18x and like every other new game this system kills it!! Im running the new 13 driver all settings maxed with HDAO or whatever its called turned on, graphics buffer 2 even though I dont know what that does, with out vsync a little tearing here and there but solid 120+ fps, card use at 93, temps never above 73. With vsync it is liquid smooooooooooooooooooth, no shredding, 60 fps, cards barely touch 70% and about 60 on the temps. Another home run for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

I'm glad to hear that for a quite a few the game runs well. To me, no matter what I try, it never does

 

I'm running it maxed out just fine 60+ fps, apart from AA... I turn off AA in every game, unless it's one of those games that runs at well over 100 fps

At 1080p on a 17" screen... I have never ever ever had a problem with "aliasing" never really seen it, never bothered me would much rather enjoy maximum fps on my beautiful 120Hz screen

 

Those who have been following this thread may recall (or not) that I was among those few who no matter what they tried could never find a way to run Far Cry 3 smoothly (always experienced stutter, fps drops, etc). Finally, today doing the most random thing the problem disappeared, and now the game runs perfectly--no stutter whatsoever at a stable 60fps with sync on. I simply lowered the graphic to 1024x768 and set to the minimum all the graphic settings. I played a bit this way, saved, and closed the game. I started Far Cry once again and while in game I maxed it all out and set the resolution to 1080... bam! no more stutter or lags. If you read some former posts you'll noticed that I have literally tried every possible setting in all the combinations possible, including reinstalling Windows (tried with both versions), and more. It is quite ironic that the most random setting that shouldn't be affecting things much actually, for some reason to me unknown, was able to stop whatever was bothering the GPUs. I had the same problem in both systems (I installed win 7 and 8 in two different disks and the game suffered from the same issues). I'm not sure this will actually work with other people who are still suffering from this annoying problem, as I think this "fix" must have changed something else I'm not seeing yet, and solved the problem. I thought I would still share it in case others are still experiencing stutter, tried everything, and now are willing to try most unusual ways to address the issue.

Peace

 

I believe also that water optimization in this game sux big time..

Beside that the game is amazing, i'm on my second play through

 

Were you able to quit the game and start playing full settings again on high FPS? I'm thinking maybe the workaround seemed to work because one of the settings is only applied after the game is reset. If you were able to reset the game and keep playing on max settings with high fps then I'll be trying your workaround in a few hours

 

I quit the game and start again playing all maxed out and still no stutter. Give it a try Luis :thumbsup: In addition you may want to try Alt + Enter(ing) while in game a few times. Switching to window mode and back to full screen also seems to stop the stutter after the game has been reset once and the problem re-appears.

 

STUTTER SOLVED!!!

Luis, (and to all of those who are still having stuttering issues with Far Cry 3) I finally found the culprit for the inconsistent performance in game and the stuttering issues that have been afflicting me: the COMPAL EC Sensor in HWInfo64 was in the way. With that disabled the game runs smooth as butter. You want to try first closing hwinfo completely and play to see if you notice any improvements. If that's the case, make sure you disable the COMPAL EC. By the way, resetting the game worked temporarily because hwinfo wasn't running in that moment. It got hang at the boot and never really started (sometimes although not often, it happens I noticed). So, now I'm quite happy I can finally enjoy the game maxed out. I hope this workaround will work for you too.

P.S. I'm kind of embarrassed that after all that I have tried in my attempt to fix this issue I never thought before today of something so simple and obvious before... lesson learned.

 

Good to hear you have found a fix worth trying.
I can already get 60+ fps but the stutters and tears have been a deal breaker, I won't play it this way.
You mentioned disabling COMPAL EC in HWInfo64. Is that something that runs in the background without launching HWinfo (I don't use it much)? Therefore launch HW to disable it and close , + drop the FC3 res, close, open, then max out again?
Correct?

 

I apologize if I didn't come across very clear in my former post. English is not my first language and I was quite excited about being able to finally play the game stutter free that I couldn't wait to share my findings.

Resetting the game settings and maxing them out again doesn't actually fix the problem. This is what fixes it for me: I launch hwinfo and go to the sensor page. Here I scroll down to the Compal sensor, right click on it and disable it. I leave hwinfo running as I want my fan profile active while I game, since I overclock the card to 900+ MHz when I play games. As a second try, you may want to disable the compal sensor, close hwinfo, and try running the game. Or if you want after disabling compal, you can stop all the hwinfo services and see if there's any improvement in game.

 

rafix73
Please, you can make a screen and to note what sensor it is necessary to disable it?

 

Or you could just not run HWiNFO while playing Far Cry, right?

 

That's where I'm not following...

 

To avoid problems the Compal EC sensor should be disabled in HWiNFO64.

rafix73 already mentioned why he wants HWiNFO64 running while playing...

 

Thank you for your prompt reply, Fox.

@locust76: as Fox quoted, I want hwinfo active because I use the fan profile. Together with my cooler my fan profile keeps cards nice and cool.

Fox posted a screenshot with hwinfo optimal settings. I advise all that use hwinfo to set the program as Fox showed.

@neklec: in case you want to see what difference it makes in various games enabling/disabling the sensor you can do directly from the sensor windows:

 

Mr. Fox, rafix73
Thanks for prompt replies.
I made as Fox advised, but changed like nothing. There is an improvement when to close HWiNFO.
I noticed long ago that HWiNFO detains games.

 

Did you try disabling the COMPAL from the sensor window as I showed it? just right click on the COMPAL sensor and choose 'disable.' Although I know that using Fox's setting you should obtain the same result - have that sensor off. However, the fact that you've experienced some improvement when hwinfo is off suggests that this is the right direction for you: look for any sensors or other system checking program (antivirus, TuneUp, ASC, etc), service, driver, or virtual drivers, ports etc that are loaded in memory and might be conflicting or slowing down your gaming experience. Start with running msconfig.exe and disable all the programs and services that you won't need for a trial session. Also use task manager and see if/what programs might be using lots of memory and resources while you game.

 

Are all of the people that are encountering these problems using dual graphics cards? I ran through the entire game with my single 7970M with no issues. I dialed the graphics settings down to a solid 60fps and just played.

Now that I have 7970CF, I am seeing the slight stutter/lag that I've been reading about. If I disable CF, the problem almost completely goes away.

The problem reminds me of when an internet connection is lagging out in an online shooter. The FRAPS frame counter doesn't dip, but there is definitely some sort of 'hiccup' that occurs.