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    CPU fan control

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by dimobr, May 11, 2015.

  1. dimobr

    dimobr Notebook Enthusiast

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    I recently installed a 4930mx in my Alien18, but I can not keep my computer on when I perform some task that requires 100% CPU usage. I realize that at full load the CPU fan just does not increase the speed, is there any way to create a profile for the CPU fan in the same way that we can do with afterburner to GPUs fan?
     
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    Scanner Notebook Deity

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    Are you sure your CPU isn't just simply overheating? What paste did you use, I use liquid ultra on my 4940mx it hasn't come close to shutting down my PC-that's always caused by some other stupid thing I've done. Have you tried using HWinfo64 to control your fan speeds?
     
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    I used the Arctic MX-4. In normal use the processor remains at 50~ 55ºC, but when I need to render some image the cooler is not triggered and quickly he reaches 100 and then it shuts down.
    I found a tutorial teaching how to use the HWinfo64, but it looks outdated compared to the new version of software, things appear a little different, and I'm afraid of ruining something.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    MX-4 is junk and the 4930MX is a heating oven... Only paste that will work properly is Gelid GC Extreme or Liquid Ultra... As for HWinfo 64, install it, open the sensors tab and at the bottom to the left of the time is a fan icon.. Click on that.. You move the fan slider and adjust it to make your fans run faster... I would set to 4000rpm click on set manual and you'll be fine.. Just don't run at it that on 24/7.. Few hours a day is fine... or do it only when you need to do it..
     
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    dimobr Notebook Enthusiast

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    between the two which is the best? I live in Brazil, need to order and takes about 30 days for me to receive it ... :S
     
  6. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Cool Laboratory Liquid Ultra is the ONLY thermal paste I will use on a Haswell CPU. (It's also the only one I use for Ivy Bridge XM because it is a huge benefit... I can run 4.5-4.6GHz with the same temps as 4.3GHz with my 3920XM.) Gelid GC Extreme is a very good thermal paste, and so is IC Diamond, but everything changes with an overclocked Haswell blast furnace. I tried GC Extreme twice and it was literally identical thermal performance as IC Diamond... both of which I find to be woefully inadequate for an overclocked Haswell Extreme CPU.
     
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    encor50 Notebook Consultant

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    how about IC Diamond ?
     
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    I mentioned IC Diamond in my last post. It's awesome stuff, but not effective enough for an overclocked Haswell blast furnace. If you're running the 4910MQ stock it might be OK. It might even be OK at 4.1GHz, but won't be as cool as Liquid Ultra. IC Diamond and Gelid GC Extreme are both wonderful for GPUs and CPUs running stock clocks. Both are durable. But, absolutely nothing works as well as Liquid Ultra for CPU overclocking on any of my Alienware laptops.

    Liquid Ultra has not worked well for my Clevo P570WM because the CPU heat sink fits too poorly. You cannot use Liquid Ultra it to fill gaps if the heat sink fit is sloppy. It has to make good (even and firm) contact to work as designed. After all, it is liquid, as the name implies.

    IC Diamond is so thick and gummy that it works much better than Liquid Ultra or Gelid GC Extreme on my Clevo. The CPU heat sinks on my M18xR1, M18xR2 and Alienware 18 fit extremely well, with even contact across the die and good pressure, so it is not an issue and the results are truly amazing.
     
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    Thank you Mr. Fox! I will order an Liquid Ultra.
    Currently I can not send anything to render, something like 15 seconds and it shuts down. :(
     
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    thanx mr fox its because when i got my pc from hidevolution i got free IC Diamond on cpu and gpu i have my pc for like a year now its all going great my cpu is 41 40 39 39 and my 880m's using svl7 mod 993 MHz good temps no fan tweaks well i dont need more then that for gaming do i ?
     
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    dimobr Notebook Enthusiast

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    You're meant to do this along with doing a cpu repaste. I did this and my temps are now controllable.
     
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    Holy crap! thunder gods bless the Liquid Ultra! :vbeek: :vbeek: :vbeek: :vbeek: :vbeek: :vbeek:
    Today I did the repast and everything was 10º~12º colder! (idle)
    Running Cinebench the maximum temperature was 78.... with MX4 I could not even end the CPU test.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Wprime 1024(8 treads) is next... :p
     
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    dimobr Notebook Enthusiast

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    I made the overclock based on the Mr.Fox tutorial and I got these numbers:
    [​IMG]

    No special care, some programs running in the background, I think it's all ok, right?
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Uncheck C1E in Trottlestop and set power management(plan)in windows to maximum performance instead of balanced performance.Test with Wprime 1024 version 1.55 (The HWBOT version of wPrime) http://www.wprime.net/Download/ Temperatures are quite right with Wprime :) What was the Cinebench 11.5 score and temp with liquid ultra?
     
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  18. Mr. Fox

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    MX4, TX-2, NT-H1 and AS5 are some of the worst thermal pastes I have ever used before. They are really popular in the mainstream gamer club, but they are not very effective and their durability with CPU overclocking is truly horrid.

    Liquid Ultra is the bomb!
     
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    All those who live in a dream and say Bga processors have very good performance and don't Trottle, also says that all thermal paste is awesome regardless of brand :p
     
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    I repasted the 980M cards in my Clevo with Liquid Ultra last night and their overclocked load temps are between 8°-10°C cooler. The Gelid GC Extreme paste I had on them had essentially turned to dust, LOL.

    People keep talking about 980M running cool, and it does run pretty cool at stock clocks if you only look at the core temps. I think other parts of the GPU may be getting much hotter than most might realize. I have a suspicion that most of my black screen overclock issues are due to thermals. I will know more after I have a chance to get my AC cooling set up again. The heat sinks in this machine are not nearly as effective as those in the M18xR1, M18xR2 and Alienware 18. Compared to the Alienware machines, the GPU copper heat plate is very thin, the heat pipes are rather small and so are the radiators (both are about half the size). But, it sure is easy to repaste everything.
     
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