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    780M vs 7970M Stock voltage + OC

    Discussion in 'Alienware 18 and M18x' started by Raidriar, Nov 15, 2015.

  1. Raidriar

    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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    Since I've had the opportunity to work with both cards, I thought I'd share my findings at STOCK voltage. I really dislike voltage mods, so I try to squeeze what I can out of each card at stock voltage. I've played around with stock voltage + OC on my 7970M with drivers from (july/august) from original 850/1200 up to 970/1350 using a vBIOS mod I made myself and got this result:
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10344003

    Disregard the CPU score, the GPU scored 15626

    Now, I had run 780Ms stock on the Alienware 18 with relatively recent drivers (july/august) and flashed to the SVL7 vBIOS running 950/1300 and got this result:
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10533725

    Disregarding the 4930MX being an inferior chip to the 3920XM, the GPU scored 15588


    Just thought I'd share those results.

    EDIT:
    UPDATE
    I stuffed the 780Ms into the M18x R2 and realized something very very different... the stock voltage on the 780M is only 1.000V, whereas stock voltage on the 7970M/8970M is 1.050V. Not only was I able to meet and exceed the 7970M overclock score in 3dmark11, but I managed to do it at a wonderful undervolt + overclock combo of -25mV on each card + 100mhz on the core and +200mhz on the memory. Score result here:
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10724287

    780M is a great card, just sad I was a little late to the party.
     
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  2. ssj92

    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    At stock volts they're very close, good to see the 7970m keep up.

    However when volts are involved the 7970m does not scale anywhere near how the 780m does.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9442006

    That was with a very small OV I think it was 1.050v at most.

    Now of course if we go 1.100v like @Mr. Fox did we see that GPU score go up nicely http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7593998

    I never was able to go above 1Ghz on my 7970m cards in my old M18x, I also don't think I've seen anyone hit over 1.075Ghz on those cards here either, I could be wrong.

    They're still great cards though, especially for compute.
     
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    I really wish I had my stupid x-fire cable for the R9 M290X. I really wanted to see what I could do with a mature 8970M at stock voltage. If my single r9 M290X was any indicator, I could hit 1025/1450 on STOCK voltage. That as really a great performer.
     
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    Wow you have had some really good silicon, I got over 990Mhz on my 7970m's and that was at 1.1v
     
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    I stupidly sold the cards to get into R9 M290X crossfire, I knew I would regret it. :(
     
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    My R9 M290X's run 1025/1325 stable with stock voltage etc. Not even sure if I can alter the voltage on these cards?? Afterburner has the voltage section greyed out.
     
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    You need to flash a custom vbios in order to change the voltage, well, that's how it works for the 7970m
     
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    skindoe Notebook Geek

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    I can obtain the vBios using GPUz, but am unaware of a program to use to modify it? If anyone has a suggestion, please let me know. Sorry to thread hijack btw.
     
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    I suggest using VBE7, its on techinferno
     
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    Cheers :)
     
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    Update to this: Sorry AMD, you don't hold a candle to nGreedia. See updated first post for details. I wish nGreedia has the same compute power as the 7970M, but for games, nvidia is just king, and a way lower voltage no less.