3D is a fad...

Does anyone actually think they will use it that often? What is the point of it in a laptop?

 

3D out for 3D blueray movies on 55 inch screen and probably some of the better 3D games. As 3D tech improves with the CGI movies like megamind, and with games like black ops where devs are putting a little more effort into it it'll start to get better.

There's also new tv's in the works that don't require glasses for 3D eliminating a big turnoff for most. Right now 3D is a gimmick that's usually not used well, but at one point so was color and sound. As the technology improves so will its uses and there's really no reason not to support improvements in technology besides cost. It also motivates engineers and the like to develop faster, more cost effective and more efficient machines. Without gimmick we wouldn't have iPhones or voice activated interactive tools for those that need it, high def screens that improve the success rate of surgery, or things like the kinect which is being used in working with better manipulatable 3D models in the medical field.

 

I don't think 3D is a fad. It's just in its infancy.
3D at the moment is just not very well executed yet. I’m sure 3D could/will eventually become quite a spectacular viewing experience.
3D CGI especially needs major improvement. Also the viewing in the Cinema and with TV’s +Laptops is still rather faffy because of the need for special glasses (who on earth wants to be seen with those awful geeky specs?).
However give it another 5 to 10 years to mature and 3D could be huge. Some manufactures have already managed to develop small screens in devices such as cameras and camcorders that give you the 3D experience without the need for glasses. It's just a matter of time until they figure out how to develop larger 3D ones.

 

I own a Samsung UN55D7000 & UN55D8000. Both are 55" 240 3D LED Smart TV's. The 3D is awesome!!!

For a laptop I think it's unnecessary. My opinion maybe bias because I already own 2 other methods for producing 3D.

 

It's a fad unless they do exactly that.

 

Agreed, Samsung big-screen 3D is very impressive.

 

Exactly...

 

I love the Samsung 2011 sets/2011 3D bluetooth glasses. Especially the diming aspect.
At the last CES I got to see a Hitachi Glassless 3D LED TV. It was awful.
It had a 20° veiwing angle, sported a fragile crystal quartz screen & could not display 2D. All for 15,000.00USD....lol.

 

3d will arrive when oled hits its stride. 2012-2014.

 

3d has been a gimmick for as long as i care to recall.....i think it gets rolled out every few years (or decades) so people think its new!

I know its improved alot since the day of movies like Jaws 3D (where you got those horrible green/red paper specs to watch it in the cinema but i think its still needs work.

I dont own anything 3d but I have been into stores to "sample" the latest flavours and although some of it was "ok", it wasnt mind blowing....

Now, what I WOULD be excited to see is something like a surround 3d.....whereby you can look around yourself 360degrees and actually be "inside" the action.....kinda like star-trek "holodeck" would be impressive.....

 

I doubt we will see OLED any time soon (disregard that Samsung prototype). Consumer awareness and demand hasn't reached the necessary level yet. C'mon, 99% of the M18x owners are totally happy with the 72% gamut and 200k+ colors. There's absolutely no demand for better screens. We barely have 6 notebooks on the market with IPS ( far less expensive than OLED).

Out of curiosity, my company made a long shot and tried a few OLED manufacturers. There's absolutely no plans for notebook screens in the 10-18.4" range, not even in a year from now. Any custom projects (provided the quantities are astronomical - 1000000pcs+) would cost vendors 1000$+ per panel. The IPS is 350$ per panel (configurable retail 500-600$) and nobody buys it.

 

3D is the future.

Due it its EXTREMELY PREMATURE release, it has ruined its name for many (including myself).

The technology was completely rushed to market and should have NEVER been released until autostereoscopy becomes perfected.

In other words, 3D isn't worth it until glasses-free becomes perfected tech. That won't be for another 3 years I imagine.

 

OLED is also not happening anytime soon. I agree with Aikimox and I know a bit about this.

Research Quantum Dot. It has the potential to be the technology OLED isn't turning out to be; a practical application for laptops and TVs.

 

Do you know why?

Part of the reason is a total lack of marketing for these screens.

There's actually a total lack of marketing for ALL screens in general. It's very difficult to find stats on laptop screens because most consumers don't know their (butt) from their elbow when it comes to screen tech. This means most manufacturers don't need to list the specs. This means most consumers can't/won't appreciate what a good IPS-RGB panel is and does. This means there's no reason to market such a panel.

I guarantee education+marketing would drive sales of these panels hand over fist. Just like BMWs and Mercedes sell, so would these panels. But right now they're only understood (and sought after) by professional and self educated consumers.

 

3D will become mainstream when the technology functionality and price points converge - like other weird 'fads'such as cars and aeroplanes 100 years ago.

 

3D has been around for a long time and catches on every so often.

 

The tech exists, just not at a reasonable price.
There are non-commercial panels that provide glasses free 3D at something like 46+ different angles. They also cost $25,000 each.

It's the same with all technologies really.

/Tinfoilhat
Glasses 3D will be milked as much as possible
Then glasses free 3D
Then 4K res (I'm sure it will be marketed as supder duper HD or something)
Then probably 4K 3D
Then super thin screens

Then who knows!

 

The red/cyan filter based 3d is horrid and needed to die. Passive 3D works in cinemas as the glasses are cheap. In the home active is where it's at. You get the full 1080p or 720p picture vs passive where you loose half the res.
Glasses free only works for a very small viewing area so can't work unless you are right in the middle.

3D blu ray is great fun to watch. I have a 55" sammy plasma (lol lcd) and a 3d HC9000D projector, 3d film with friends causes a buzz. On the pc, it's a different story. No open good standard as the existing one is either 720p60 or 1080p24, both terrible options for pc use. The 3dvision is a damn good propitiatory attempt but still lacking, AMD's attempted is a joke. The fact you need TN panels for it right now is not great either.

If it does take off, it will be for TV. The odd laptop/desktop panel may get it but panel quality isn't so great so won't work as well as it should. You need very capable black levels, something you can only really get with a plasma or high end projector due to no backlight. Though the latest lcd's seem to be making reasonable progress on reducing the problem as much as feasibly possible.

Personally, I'm holding out for 4K. I've been lucky enough to get a demo of a JVC 4k projector that costs £80,000. It was jaw droppingly good.

 

Cars and planes were never fads. Not every innovation or technology was a fad. Fads are more cultural than anything else. So, by definition, the current push for 3D isn't a fad. That said, it's mostly a unless and overpriced technology unless utilized correctly by the content producers. There are very few movies (Avatar and TRON: Legacy come to mind) that are worth seeing in the format and even less TV shows and videogames.

I think most of us know exactly why Hollywood and the rest of the tech world are pushing 3D: Premium pricing because it's assumed that just because it's 3D, it's OMG Better!! We are years away from it being worth it for all kinds of media. Unfortunately, it seems that we're all going to be "paying" for the growing pains along the road in one way or another.

Me, I'll be avoiding it as much as possible until it runs without the need for glasses. And even then it's not like previous jumps in terms of clarity (VHS>DVD>HD and the like). It's just different and I'd argue not needed.

Fad? Not really. Gimmick? Close enough.

 

I think £d is here to stay. Biff's mate in Back to the Future is a pioneer in this field and deserves more recognition.

 

Dizzy for 3D, so sad. I cannot even live with the Great Game: WOW.~~~

 

I disagree; I've seen Avatar in both 2D and 3D and didn't think the 3D effect was that noticeable or even good.

Your right, I too prefer going to 2D showings in the cinema and will continue doing so until there is a drastic improvement in 3D imagery.

 

I think it's funny that people constantly complain about the glasses. People seriously need to get over the it, half the guys that complain about the glasses should be more worried about their huge gut. If anything it helps your image and distracts people from looking at your Miccydee's physeek. It's really not that big of a deal. If I see a babe wearing 3d glasses I dont think to myself, man I need a paperbag for her, I think damn thats a babe wearing 3d glasses.

Most of the people that knock 3d are the ones who haven't tried it. They went to see 'insert your bad 3d movie here' and now they think any 3d sucks. If your a gamer and you put in your $ to get a rig of the new tech your gonna say it was worth it, just like countless others have. If you dont have the flow then wait till its cheaper or save up like a normal person. AMD fanboys are gonna have to swollow their pride most likely.

There is more 3d content out there (and more coming) then 2d people know about or admit it. It is expensive but what new tech isn't... for real.

If you like it and can afford it then awesome. If you don't wanna shell out the $ and it's not really your thing, then post about it being a fad. I'll bet my savings account it's ALREADY catching on past being a fad. Saying its pointless on a notebook is also pointless. Anything that is cool in a stationary setting is even more cool in a mobile setting, at least for people on the go. The point is more people like it then don't.

 

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3D is still in it's early stages. Toshiba is the only company I've personally seen with a full 3D laptop including 3D glasses. Personally, I think 3D is overrated. In the near future, almost everything will probably migrate to 3D, and the technology will become will most likely become much cheaper. That'd be the only way that I'd even consider it.

 

I wonder how many 3d nay sayers suffer from poor depth perception

http://www.mediacollege.com/3d/depth-perception/test.html
my connection to the 3rd dimmension is pretty strong

 

I can actually see where you're coming from on that fat, lol.

 

Sorry if this has already been mentioned before, but doesn't 3D significantly cut down on framerate? That alone makes it rather useless, especially for performance junkies like alienware customers.

 

Considering it displayes twice the frames you 'could' say that.
Considering 'performance junkies' have performance enthusist grade hardware and the amount of game emersion you get from 3d, it's not 'useless'

 

Some 3D images are fantastic and glaringly obvious while other scenes are just plane 2D.
Next time you watch a movie in 3D periodically lift up your 3D glasses and you will soon come to see that not every scene is shot in 3D.
In REAL 3D images should look very blurred and distorted when viewed without the glasses (the more distorted the better the 3D imagery,you can sometimes also see the layers of blue, red and green)

Also Some 3D consists of only separating the visual planes, so that some objects float above others, but everything is still in 2D. We notice this. We shouldn’t. So it's really a kind of fake 3D.

Bottom line is, 3D still has a long way to go!

 

Does anyone know if the M18x will output 3D? I know it's screen isn't capable of displaying 3D, but I've got a great 3D TV and am wondering if I need to get a 3D Blu Ray player or if I'll be able to output 3D wirelessly, or with a cable, to my TV from my M18x using the slot loading Blu Ray player

 

Not too long until the glasses free 3ds start showing up...

 

The Nvidia 460 & 580s support 3d with nvidia's 3d vision and and has ther own 3d.

 

I do have to say that from my experiences it's not a gimmick. A movie that uses 3D well is awesome, and I honestly really like the 3D on my 3DS. For me, it adds an extra level of immersion, like turning the graphics up a significant notch.

It's a gimmick in the same way that flashing lights on a laptop are a gimmick. Some will like it, some won't. Just because you believe it's a gimmick doesn't mean that other people should (or do) think similarly.

 

With your way of thinking then the Wii, iPad and hell most new apple products are a fad too.

/end sarcasm

 

I think it's here to stay like it or not.
Personally I'm not a big fan but when it's done right it is a pretty neat feature.
3D TV gives me a headache and in laptops I don't see it as a big deal, maybe I'm old school but I like my games in good old fashion 2D.

 

For me the 3DS gives me a headache after 10 minutes of playing but I use my 3D TV for hours on end and never got any headaches.

 

Agreed the lack of content pretty much relegates it to a gimmick at the moment.

 

I'm fine with 3D technology. It's come and gone a lot of times. The thing that's significant about the current generation of home 3D technology is we no longer have to watch a movie in red and blue to experience 3D.
Once the technology is more affordable, they figure a way to reduce or eliminate eye strain, and there's more content, I think 3D will become standard, the way HD has become standard.

 

All it does is give me a damn headache. I think it's a conspiracy from the painkiller manufacturers to get people to buy more aspirin.

 

3D isn't for everyone, it seems to affect some more than others. I've never had a headache due to 3D, but that's just me.

In that sense you could say any console with a limited launch lineup is a gimmick. It's got a few gems, OOT 3D in particular is spectacular.

 

3D pops up for 5-7 years every 25-30 years or so since the 20s. It will die again.

I especially hope so, as anything even slightly labeled '3D' seems to give me and my fiance extreme migraines after only 5-10 minutes of viewing, including but not limited to the 3DS and any and all so-called 3D movies.

 

This is the ultimate 3d.

 

I wish I had that. That's the ultimate collectors item but I would never use it lol.