max CPU temp

Hi m8s,

Just got my M14X few weeks ago. I OCed it to 740 / 1080 and the GPU temp is max 75, this is great, no artifact and great FPS.

Nevertheless, I noticed the temp for the CPU core1 goes pretty high (up to 98) and am wondering what is the max it should go to and what can I do to protect it (Bios settings, repaste, alerts, etc.) ?

Thanks in advance !

 

i was just about to post this!!! im in the same boat apart from i dont overclock that high. is it even safe with a cpu temp like that

 

Forgot to give you the detailed specs of my M14X, if this helps:
i7 2820g 2.3Ghz
screen res 14.1 1600x900 wled
2 x 2 gb 1600Mhz DDR3
250G sata 7200tr/min
nvidia GT555M 1.5GB

 

You're not the only one who has a high temp. As far as I know most (If not all) i7 CPU are running hot, I use to reach 99C on both core 0 and 1 when I playing BFBC2.

For the GPU, I dont think it will affect your CPU temp since is the CPU is separated from the GPU. Beside your OC setting is avg, mine is higher, mine is 600/1200/900 on idle avg temp is between 45C ~ 55C , 850/1700/1100 on full load, avg temp is between 50C ~ 78C. As long as the temp doesnt go over 80C, you'll be fine.

As for the CPU, the shutdown point is at 100C (most electronic product do), I heard that the i7 CPU can sustain even higher than 100C, up to around 120C, but for safely reason Intel code the CPU to shutdown at 100C. I can suggest re-pasting the CPU, or get a cooler, I use the cooler because I dont want to damage thing if I re-paste it, the cooler I use is Cooler Master Notepal U2.

Link to my 99C Core 0 and 1 temp picture: i7 CPU Run Hot!, This is the link to how to disassembling your laptop: Alienware M14x Disassembly/Teardown and Upgrade Guide! It doesnt include how to repaste the CPU though, but the guide is somewhat close enough as well.

 

so are you saying its ok to still be on it? i just dont want to damage anything with heat from the cpu

 

850/1700/1100 !?!

And do you run BFBC2 full settings with these ? ;-)

 

Most games won't run well at all at those settings. Stick to 752/1504/1000. Anyone posting numbers like 850/1700/1100 are just trying to show off. I mean, CGSDR put's a screen shot of CPU-Z Validator in his sig. Just in case we don't believe his specs. That should give you an idea of what type of person he is.

CPU temps in the 90s are fine for the GT555M. It has been stated by Intel that this line of CPUs was built for higher temperatures. You can use a laptop cooler or repaste the CPU if you want but you really shouldn't have to unless you just want to do it to feel more comfortable.

 

Look at the picture and tell me If I still showing off? For the screenshot, Please read the time on the top of the page, according to that screenshot it was taken since " Submitted by 7PRO-M14x | Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:47:29 +0200 | Validated by CPU-Z 1.58". Please do not accuse somebody if you doesnt have proof.

One thing I mistake is that the memory, it is actually cap at 1080, but for the MSI Afterburner I can go up to 1100, however because of MSI Afterburner give me quite lots of trouble, so I switch to EVGA instead, and the reason that I can OC it pass 800/1600 is I use an Unlocked VBIOS, I'll leave a link down below.



GT555M Unlocked VBIOS *Use at your own risk*

I'd not try to leave it, because this is the reason I bought the cooler, because I dont want to fried the CPU, as far as I know Dell wont responsible if you fried it by have it overheat overtime though, it is best to either repaste the CPU or get a cooler, or even do both.

Not full, actually I tweak some setting for e.g I turn those AA and the HBAO off, set the Effect and Shadow to Medium to get more framerate, in non-combat area it would run at a smooth 40-60, but if you were in area where combat is likely, the framerate can be drip down significantly but it is depend on the situation.

However I do not recommend you to OC it too high, as in BF3, you have OC the GPU too high, the game might crash at launch, and 850/1700 is the highest I can OC without crashing BF3.

 

Nothing you have said has disproved anything that was stated in my post. Thanks anyway though.

 

what do play using that overclock. i thought i was daring going upto 750 lol

 

If you are living on the edge you might want to try running,

RealTemp 3.69.1
RealTemp_3691.zip

It reads the thermal throttling flag from within the CPU. If each core in the Thermal Status area shows OK, that means that your CPU has not reached the thermal throttling point since you booted up. If that shows the word LOG, that means that it has reached the thermal throttling point at least once and a record of that has been logged within the CPU. Even if your CPU only throttles for a millisecond, this flag will be set in the CPU whether RealTemp is running or not so you could run RealTemp after you are finished gaming and it will check this flag for you. If it shows the word HOT, that means the CPU is presently thermal throttling but unless the heatsink has fallen off, you should rarely see HOT reported.

Most software does not sample the temperature sensors often enough so thermal throttling can be triggered without you knowing about it or without the full maximum temperature being reported. ThrottleStop reports more accurate maximum temperatures for this reason, especially when a CPU is fully loaded. Checking the thermal bit with RealTemp or HWiNFO is the best way to make sure your CPU is not thermal throttling and slowing down.

For the record, the Intel designed thermal shutdown temperature isn't until approximately 130C but most laptop manufacturers set a bios shutdown temperature at 100C or 105C.

 

Tx, very much appreciated

 

Someone can tell me how to overclock the GPU? I don't want mess with cpu cuz my temps are very high(99° with BFBC2 & Crysis2) so I just want to OC gpu and ram, how can I do this? If you can explain to me very careful, with all the details cuz I'm noob on those things of OC.. I'll really apreciate it... thanks and I send you my best regards.

 

My max is 95, because I set Core Temp to auto shutdown at that temperature. As for OC'ing GPU, I use MSI Afterburner. Has a cool skin, and it's easy to use.

 

For the high temp CPU, try turn the Turbo Boost Off in the BIOS, It will not affect the performance, I found it out by one of the fellow NBR user who point out to turn it off and it did help reduce 2C - 7C. For the Overclocking program I use EVGA Precision as it is the only program to support the unlocked VBIOS, It offer more OC setting pass 750/1500 while the MSI Afterburner does not.

Link to download EVGA Precision
Link to download MSI Afterburner

You can find the help file in their forum as well as on each overclocking program, but tbh it is pretty easy to OC, all you need to do is to slide the slider forward (to OC) or backward (to Downclock) and click on Apply and it done! I use to use the MSI Afterburner and the two program offer similar skin, however the MSI Afterburner offer only 5 savable profiles while the EVGA Precision offer 10 Savable profiles. Give it a try and see it yourself.

 

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, that's very helpful, but I don't get if I can OC the RAM with MSI A too? or is just fot GPU??

 

MSI Afterburner and the EVGA Precision is a GPU Overclocking program only, for the RAM you'll have to do it in the BIOS and that goes for the CPU too, but I heard that there're some program that offer you to OC your CPU, but it is not as stable and accurate as do it in the BIOS.

And as I mention about the VBIOS, I mean, if you did not have the modded VBIOS install, both MSI Afterburner and the EVGA Precision is pretty much the same except for EVGA offer you 5 more savable profiles than the MSI Afterburner. You can download the modded VBIOS Here, BUT USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, because Dell will not responsible for using a third party program/mod should anything goes wrong, however since I use that VBIOS, it seem to be pretty stable and safe, as long as you do not OC it too high. (I test it while using it with a cooler only).

Side Note: If you do not have a cooler, I do not suggest you to OC it over 750/1500, because the more OC you slide up, the more heat it will build up when in game.

 

Humm, but that probably heat issue can be for the CPU right? I really don't want to mess with CPU cuz I'm having high temps, so I just want to OC ram and gpu.. what temps are safety for both? Also, I've a few programs to follow the temps of the CPU, GPU and hard disk, but I dunno know if there is a program where you can see the temps of the RAM... Finally, if don't bother you, how can I OC ram form BIOS? I've to see the setup of the aw like disabling the turbomode?

THANKS A LOT DUDE, YOU'RE GREAT!

 

Sure, since I have lot of time to spare . Not really, but it is most likely because of the CPU, because since I turn the Turbo Boost off, the heat from the GPU is decrease dramatically, normally (with Turbo Boost on) the heat from the GPU is about between 75C - 85C, but after turn the Turbo Boost off, it stay between 50C ~ 75C. The safety temp is depend but for CPU as long as it is below 90C that would be good (See unclewebb's post for ref on the meltdown temp).

For the RAM temperature monitoring software I'm not sure about this, because I'm not good at RAM stuff, however I dont think RAM will have any built in temperature sensors, but I can be wrong so I cant help you with this though and that goes for the RAM OC as well , Here is the screenshot I took on M14x BIOS and the Turbo Boost Enable/Disable area.


Alienware M14x BIOS - Turbo Boost. All you need to do is press F8 for Setup, and wait for the BIOS to flash then navigate to " Advance" and use the keyboard to highlight over the " CPU Turbo Mode" press Enter and select " Disable" then save change and exit, restart and your Turbo Boost will be off, you can see if it still use the boost or not by using CPUZ or most CPU temp monitoring software, they will show it, if the CPU max frequency capped at 2199Mhz then it mean the Turbo Boost is definitely off. If you see it pass that point then it mean it still on. Hope this would help

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Sure, that was very very very helpful, thanks a lot dude!

I'm glad with my -3° on the temps of the CPU, is not a big things but is helpful. I really need a cooler, yet I'm thinking on calling to Dell Support cuz I think that my temps still high, maybe is the fan and all the cooler stuff of the aw cuz my GPU temps ir of 87° even with the turbomode disable...

I'll search about OC RAM cuz I don't want waste my great memory of 1600mhz

Thanks again CGSDR!

 

how hot is too hot for the gpu cause i see people in mid 80's and running just fine but mine is heavily overclocked and it usually sits at 72 or less in a full load or in the low 80s in skyrim and i freak out a little once it passes 80, i just wanna know if thats safe or not cause my cpu hits 89 but only in skyrim and thats the hottest i ever run