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    gt555 3gb benefits

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by Singulariton, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. Singulariton

    Singulariton Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello everybody, I know there were lots of posts like this here, but I'm now keen on oc'ing my gpu to its maxed and stable clocks. I use msi afteburner tool set clock to 750/1500/1050 and skyrim as a benchmark. So i get - about 72 degrees playing on everything high (not ultra) and have 32-34 fps. I'm not asking if its good or not, but a what I really wanna know if there is something better in using 3gb version of the card?? (by the way its current card with me, a05 vbios mod, changed fan speeds, no turbo boost)

    I don't understand how 2 more gigs help me ingame? I mean in the msi tool there is only 1080 max for memory! Why not set it to 2gigs?

    Can somebody share his stats using 1.5gig version?
     
  2. niko2021

    niko2021 Notebook Evangelist

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    In skyrim, not overclocked, on high settings at 1600x900 resolution, I usually get around 30-60 fps, I'd say the average would be 35-40 fps using the 1.5 gt555m. Overclocked at your same settings (which is my overclock shockingly) I'm usually around the same 30-60 fps, but my average is higher at 45-55. And I believe you're confused about the MSI memory clock. It measures memory clock speed not memory amount. The differences in the 1.5 and 3.0 gb are really slim anyway. It's like upgrading from 4 gigs of system memory to 6 gigs. Doesn't make your computer much better, just more room to multitask should you desire.
     
  3. Singulariton

    Singulariton Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did you repaste both gpu/cpu? I will do it anyway soon. But doesen't it mean that 1.5 more gigs should do more job? What are your fan sets?
     
  4. tmaxx123

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    all this repaste talk has be paranoid about my perfectly working m14x.....lol is it a FACT that all the paste jobs are bad?

    if so im about to find someone to do it for me
     
  5. bigtonyman

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    its just not the m14x that gets bad paste jobs, seems like all alienware machines come like this :(
     
  6. niko2021

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    Yes 3.0 gigs will do more than 1.5 gigs only if its being used. Like running bare windows with 4 gigs or 8 gigs of ram, you won't be able to tell the difference. I'm not saying your memory isn't being used, because it likely is, whether or not it makes a difference, for the most part, is very little. The amount of memory matters not so much as other graphic card components and specs, like core speed, number of shaders, shader speed, ram type, ram speed, etc.
    This is just my thought, but I think dell offered 3.0 gt555m upgrade because there wasn't any room for different graphics cards, mainly because its soldered onto the mobo.
     
  7. Gearsguy

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    From personal experience, I have had my M14x use almost 2.5gb of VRAM. It may have no drastically improved performance, but it did show that it was using it (it was on Crysis on max settings at a stable 30fps BTW). I posted it in a 3GB GPU thread we had a few months ago and everyone just told me I was lying or that was false information or something, even though I had pictures to prove it. So basically I can say that yes it makes a minimal difference and if you plan to keep the m14x for 3+ years without a strong small budget, go for it. I do not wish to say anymore so people dont have a fit over me explaining there is some facts behind the 100$ upgrade.
     
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    I also saw Crysis 2 (the only game so far) using full 1.5 Gigs V-RAM, but that was after installing High res and DirX11 patch and all maxed out except resolution. I am sure it would have used more if I had 3 Gigs V-RAM.
     
  9. evilras

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    It was bundled in with my eurogamer deal! Not sure i would've specifically paid for the upgrade, but happy i have it!
     
  10. gamba66

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    its proven that there is zero benefit (benchmarks, fps comparisons etc..)
    its just a tactic that nvidia does with a bunch of low class gpus and oem cards..

    The chip isnt even powerful enough for the 1.5gb, even the 570gtx has only 1.25gb of videoram or the 560 ti has 1gb of videoram, and these cards are far superior to the 555m chip!

    dont be fooled by anyone, even if games use huge textures or dx11, the chip "pushes" the pixels way too slow that it would make any difference!

    btw since these rams are only ddr3, this does even less sense to get the 3.0gb one..

    so if you want to go ahead and spend more money on nothing do it, maybe this has a placebo effect.. but from a technical point of view this is just a waste of money (and ram!)

    i mean seriously guys, how many desktop cards with ddr3 ram do you see that have over 1gb of videoram?? Who are you kidding?

    Its the same with 6770m that the hp dv6 series uses, there is also a 1gb and 2gb version (in this case even gddr5) and it makes absolutely no difference, just google that topic for reference
     
  11. niko2021

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    I agree with you, but seriously, dell just offered the 3.0 as an upgrade because they couldn't have any better card for an upgrade without highly modifying the current system. The gt555m is probably the fastest of the gt line, and I have no problem with anyone who spent extra or was given the 3.0 gb card. It is probably a few percentage points better than the 1.5. They're both ddr3, if it was the gddr5 version then what would be much worth it.
     
  12. gamba66

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    well as I said,

    even with the 6770m which uses gddr5 ram and a 128 bit bus (versus the 555m with ddr 192bit bus, but only m14x version) the additional 2gb version has NO differences to the 1gb version.. there is virtually no difference..

    there is also a huge discussion about the 6950 and 6970 desktop cards from nvidia about 1gb vs 2gb.. the result is that the 1gb is even faster than the 2gb because the memory management is easier on the 1gb version! The 2gb version is only a few frames higher in resolution past full hd (2560 x 1440)..

    The 555m wouldn run any games at those resolution stable anyways..

    people always say there is a minor difference from a few fps, but thats absolutely not true, even in the 2gb versions of some desktop cards are slower with more vram..

    thats just sweettalking the money some ppl wasted on the 3gb version
     
  13. $horty

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    @gamba66... Tell us how you really feel?

    So in my breif research it looks as there will be litle to no difference in the 1.5 / 3.0 performance overall. However there are some that say the 3GB will perform better on a multiple monitor or very high resolution external senario.

    For me it was part of a package upgrade and I have no issues...
     
  14. evilras

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    exactly! I dont begrudge anyone buying it! lets face it, alienware isnt exactly the sweet point of bang for buck! I'm just saying, if its in an offer, good stuff. if you bought it to max the system, enjoy it! and if you dropped the extra £100, then its your machine, your decision! just be aware that you dont really see any improvement!

    This is why i'm happy with my 6gb RAM. I dont think its gone beyond a smidge over 4! So unless you're a heavy CAD user, i dont see why you'd get 8gb! But if it makes you feel happier maxing it out, then yeah! enjoy!

    Its personal preference!
     
  15. bigtonyman

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    Exactly, Its all preference, what works for some people doesn't work for others ;)
     
  16. Gearsguy

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    Hi gamba66, can we get a link to those benchmarks and FPS comparisons you told about? I'd like to compare them to mine, maybe Im wrong or something, so it'd be interesting to see the official benchmarks
     
  17. alroar

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    Even if it brings no improvement in performance, it still gives you better cards when selling the box in a few years, when 3GB are the default.

    u cant argue with that :p
     
  18. bigtonyman

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    well I gotta say, it looks like the new nvidia 600 series mobile flagship is gonna be a 4gb card. :eek: I don't know why you would need that much memory. but it does seem to get a better benchmark score. Here is the link to the card specs plus vantage scores we have been discussing in the m17x forum ;) Link come courtesy of widezu69 :)
     
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    hey im desperately in need for this machine and dell isnt offering it with 3GB vram.. ive checked every dell site of every country no 3gb just 2gb nvidia is available can anyone please direct me to where i can order one with 3gb nvidia.. i'll be much obliged :(
     
  20. Pete- 7r0jan

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    Before the abuse starts :)
    Look at the cards being offered?? they are not gt555
     
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    What if I run two external displays (VGA and HDMI), the internal display, and a VJ application to control all the imagery? Would VRAM still not matter? I just got the r2 w/ 2GB 650m, and it is so much faster at this same setup. The r1 would be close to overheating (despite both CPU and GPU being only partially used). I've always wondered what would be most beneficial for a VJ (running at 720p). GPU, amount of VRAM, speed of memory, speed of memory bus? Would love more insight.