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    Would a CPU oc help increase an oc on the GPU?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by elmo93, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. elmo93

    elmo93 Notebook Guru

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    I'm trying to get past a stable oc of 720mhz (yes I know it's sad) I have a voltmoded a08 bios and still can't get over 720mhz without Crysis 2 crashing on me. Would overclocking the cpu help me out though? I'm thinking it could also make it even worse, but idk. Anything that would help clock my poorly built 555m higher would be great, thanks.
     
  2. Syredisa057

    Syredisa057 Notebook Consultant

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    CPU oc and GPU oc is different instance as far as i know..
    however cpu oc can help with better processing, other than that idk.. sorry for limitation of my knowledge.. :)
     
  3. bigtonyman

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    you can only do about a 5% overclock on the CPU or it will BSOD because the multipliers are locked. This sadly can't be changed so its not possible to overclock any of the processors available for the m14x minus the 2960/2920, and since heat is already an issue in m14x, i wouldn't even try to put one of those in there as it would be handicapped. :(
     
  4. CGSDR

    CGSDR Alien Master Race

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    Short answer: No.

    Long answer: Also no, because the CPU and the GPU (GT555M) is 2 separated and very different component, and Crysis 2 is a graphic intensive game, so OC your CPU will not do any better at framerate though, and I dont recommend you OC your CPU as well because it will increase the heat consider the M14x's have hard time trying to keep the CPU cool even at the default clock speed. Plus like bigtonyman said, You must have to Extreme Edition of the Sandy Bridge (e.g i7 2960XM) because only those XM edition have its multiplier unlocked.

    However, one thing I want to ask which's is it your GPU is the newer GT555M version (GF116)? You can check which version via GPU-Z, because the newer GT555M GPU (GF116) tend to have many problems. Have you try different Drivers, oh what version are you using right now?
     
  5. tyler27

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    hmm, i have the voltmodded a03 and i run at 830mhz on my gpu and never bluescreen
     
  6. smokingjam

    smokingjam Notebook Evangelist

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    If you can't get past 720 maybe your gpu can't oc?
    I'm sure crysis 2 should run on gt555m anyway without oc.
     
  7. CGSDR

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    I use the default A05 BIOS and I can OC up to 800/1600 without crash using the NVIDIA System tools, and it is surprisingly good and very very stable for a non-unlocked VBIOS.

    To OP: I think you might want to try the NVIDIA system tools to see if it will work out for you though I cant guarantee that you would be able to OC pass 720.
     
  8. elmo93

    elmo93 Notebook Guru

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    I (sadly) have the GF116. And I am on the latest WHQL nVidia driver (295.73). And actually after testing last night I realize that I can only do 700mhz, not even 705mhz, or Crysis 2 and also Skyrim will eventually crash. The temperature is not the reason I don't think...It only gets to as high as 68-72c. Also, the game is crashing at 705mhz and higher because the clock speed is reset to the factory frequency of 590mhz...I think the driver crashes and when it starts back up it is at 590mhz. So I think I have a pretty faulty 555m. What other problems have you heard about the gf116? Does anyone have problems like mine? Also, anything below the A07 BIOS does not work with my 555m. The computer doesn't recognize the graphics card unless I am on a A07 and up BIOS. Also even though the A07 BIOS allows the computer to recognize the graphics, it still causes major stability issues. Also I am currently using the A08 Voltmoded BIOS.
     
  9. bluefalcon13

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    If it is stable at stock, its not faulty... overclocking the gpu beyond factory specs is not what makes a card faulty/not faulty. You may just have a card that doesn't like to OC. I have the 106-version, and mine caps somewhere between 700mhz and 750mhz without the voltmod (which I haven't done).

    Overclocking is like the free samples at the grocery store... they can be nice, but it isn't the primary reason the grocery store is open...

    Some cards just don't like to be overclocked... but are happy to live their lives at stock speed. Got a desktop GTX260 that's like that... it gets mad when its oc'd above a slight bump.
     
  10. elmo93

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    I agree with overclocking being like a free sample in a grocery store and all, and I know some can get higher than others...but I've looked everywhere to try and see if anyone had the same problem with the 555m as me...and I still haven't heard of a case where someone was not able to go past even 750mhz...so no matter how I try to put it into my head it still concerns me. So I agree, with everything...but like I said it concerns me I can't even get close to what everyone else gets. Maybe if some other people had 555ms that couldn't really go over 700mhz I wouldn't feel so bad about it. And would anyone know how much more of a fps average you'll get with clock speeds of like 750mhz and even 800? I only get 1721 in 3D Mark 11, and I know people clocking to 800mhz can get like 1,900. Would it be worth trying to sell this thing for another m14x with a 555m that could actually handle higher speeds?
     
  11. bigtonyman

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    I'd say all that effort isn't worth it. 200 points isn't that much, If i was a huge difference such as 1000 as I would say go for it. If you aren't happy with the performance you might wanna look at selling the machine anyway and buying something larger? just a thought ;)