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    Will Alienware 14 get Maxwell?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by BigOh, May 12, 2014.

  1. BigOh

    BigOh Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know this has been asked a few times here already. BUT I want to know if there is even the slightest possibility of Dell releasing the Alienware 14 with Maxwell anytime soon?
     
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    The alienware 18 and 17 were refreshed so I'm surprised the 14 hasn't been yet. I bet they release one soon with a soldiered Maxwell 860m , which would be pretty nice. I don't think anyone has release info, Dell is pretty hush on dates
     
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    It will require a refreshed motherboard which is more complex than the other models.
     
  4. BigOh

    BigOh Notebook Enthusiast

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    That makes sense. Alienware 17 and 18 can easily be upgraded without a refreshed motherboard because they use MXM connectors. Damn this is disappointing. :(
     
  5. dandan112988

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    I hope they discontinue the 14 and make something better. There much much smaller and better performing competitors.

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    and then perhaps bring back the M15x. Oh well nice to dream. If Maxwell works in the 2009 model then I guess I won't care ;)

    If you want a machine smaller than the 17 and 18 the old M15x still does pretty well despite it's age. All GPU's to date work with it. The M14x in all it's iterations has failed to match up where it matters; graphically. I don't see the attraction to it.
     
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    Yeah I agree. Bring the m15x back. It's the best of both worlds in terms of power and portability. We don't need a 17 incher with the power of a 15 incher and a 14 incher with the power of an 11 incher

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    Yeah the m15X is an amazing chassis. I miss the days of the alienware m9700/9750. I have no idea why they decided to take sli out of the 17 inchers, bad move. Thats why i have the AW18. I wish they never merged with dell, the notebooks feel so much more "mass produced" now and are missing that "special-ness" the old alienwares used to have.
     
  9. Cloudfire

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    Yes Alienware 14 will get Maxwell.
    Who knows when though
     
  10. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    The first few dellienwares were good. M15x and M17x R2. The R2 with that amazing screen too! It is a matter of making money. If they released a new M17x R2 SLI machine they wouldn't make as much money peddling the 17 and 18. There should be a 11" with MXM 3.0 A graphics, no ODD to accomodate cooling and then MXM based 15" and 17". The 17 having SLI.
     
  11. BigOh

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    I guess we will just have to wait and see. I think my current laptop can pull through a couple of months more. Hope a refreshed 14 or new 15 comes up by then.
     
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    they have to get the M15x back with his two fans and full keyboard ! we need that quality of laptop
     
  13. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    That's the point sasuke. Quality means bad business! Imagine they scrapped the 14 and brought out an updated M15x with full mxm upgradability. People would stick with it 5+ years again haha

    Lower the quality and throw in soldered graphics means it is 2 years max before the consumer returns again to fill the coffers. What we on now. M14 R4? Still nothing graphically. The cost of the upgrades done to the M15x is far cheaper than the cost of 2-3 new laptops over 5 years. Let's see $200 dollars back in the day for a 920xm, 6970M was -$200-250 too and the 7970M didn't cost any more than that as the proceeds from the 6970M could go to that. Hmm how much did buying a M14 over and over cost? The same will apply with Maxwell or amd alternative when selling the 7970M to donate proceeds toward it. Same for anybody else that keeps an old machine going.

    It is hard to understand why people go for the inferior product without looking at other options first.
     
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    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    I'm wondering when one of these notebook vendors is just going to enable you to sign up for a subscription.

    Maybe Razer will do it and they can send me the 2015 Blade 14 with maxed out storage and also provide a box for me to send back the 2014 model. $1000/yr sounds about right..
     
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    Yes but the people who do that sort of modding will simply not buy it now.
     
  16. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Ha, interesting concept, especially for a smaller vendor like Razer, but I dare say it'd $1,500 and would take away the appeal!
     
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    I actually asked Alienware/Dell chat when the 860M would come to the 14, and was surprised they answered.

    They said they hoped to have it out by August. No promises, but I'm hoping nothing falls through and I plan to pick one up shortly after that.
     
  18. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Sales representatives are wrong 90% of the time. They tell you what you want to hear. I wouldn't rely on their information.

    They won't get rid of the Alienware 14. They will have only had it for one year this June. The Alienware 14 should be able to have the 860M Maxwell variant, as it is soldered. They're probably trying to deplete the 765M stockpile.

    I would buy an Alienware 14 if it had the Maxwell 860M. That card is a beast. It can be overclocked to 870M performance, and runs about 10C cooler.
     
  19. Alienware-Wasserman

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    Hello all,
    Until the official teaser or official announcement for the AW14 has made, we are not able to speculate or even provide information about the actual system.
    My best advise would be to keep an eye on the Facebook page.

    Sorry.
     
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    Thanks for the update. I'd be keeping my fingers crossed for a MXM board re-design over another soldered-on update - even if that update is Maxwell 860m. I guess if we don't get MXM, Maxwell 860m isn't a 'bad' option, it's just that we really could do with the ability to change gpu's ourselves and NOT have to change the whole machine (or system board, as I did) to keep up.
     
  21. PuNkMaN

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    MXM board with an accessible cpu heatsink so I don't have to take out my motherboard to repaste. :|
     
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    For sure - can't imagine what was going through the engineers brains when they made a repaste so awkward....I think it would be possible to mod the chassis by cutting some away to allow removal of the heat sink without removing the board, but what a design flaw......
     
  23. PuNkMaN

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    I bet there's a good amount of in-home service calls for the 14 directly related to cpu repastes since most people aren't comfortable doing a complete teardown.
     
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    Sorry for the nobbie question but If alienware releases a new alienware 14 with maxwell and all those fancy specs could I upgrade my current 2013 alienware? Do i need to replace the whole motherboard and processor for an nvidia gtx 800m class? thanks in advance.
     
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    The GPU is soldered in on the current AW14, so you'd need the new motherboard for a GPU. That's assuming the chassis is the same and the motherboard doesn't change shape/mounting/etc...
     
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    It's going to be a pretty penny for that mobo swap for the first few months too. If you're wanting it at release, you're almost better off selling your current 14 and buying the maxwell revision.
     
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    Cross ur fingers for Alienware announcements at Computex 2014!
     
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    maybe they would release it on the E3? Alienware is going there!
     
  29. J.Dre

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    This is what happened last year. It's probably going to happen this year.
     
  30. craigery81

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    I wouldn't expect a big refresh. Maybe just a soldered 860m maxwell but then we will be in the same boat a year from now. Mxm or go home IMO. As for E3,expect more steam box press than anything else from alienware.
     
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    GTX 860m Maxwell is a huge upgrade over the Kepler GTX 765m and it adds power efficiency. Users of the W230SS are getting 2 hours more battery life compared to the W230ST with gtx 765m kepler.


    Hopefully AW14 R2 gets the 860m Maxwell and dual cooling fans, and maybe with a reduced weight of about 1lb would be perfect.
     
  32. J.Dre

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    Only a couple weeks left until Alienware refreshes their lineup.
     
  33. QUICKSORT

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    Don't expect too much. You will get disappointed. I would be happy if they even were to update the alienware 14 with a new graphics card, It already has the CPU I want, now only thing left is the GPU.

    A complete lineup refresh is an overstatement. They did it previous year because of the change of the design, since they don't change their design every year, don't expect any new lineup I'd say. Normally the did release a new revision of their laptops around april, right when new GPU's of nvidia arrived. That already happened for the alienware 17 and 18, but since there was nothing else worth changing on the laptop except for the GPU and CPU which is a simple swap, I guess they didn't bother calling it a 2nd revidsion (r2). But they did delay the alienware 14 A LOT. Don't know why, I assume marketing strategy (might be design flaws/issues too, but why would an experienced manufacturer have such a problem?). So yeah I'll be happy if I were to see an alienware 14 update.

    E3 is goign to be all about steambox I'm pretty sure, since it's their worst project ever, as told by one of alienware's members, so they will try to hype it up as much as possible.

    The steam machine might not have a big audience, because people might prefer a ps4, or a full pc instead, even if that is not enough, their are multiple companies manufacturing their steam machine introducing more competition. So it is bound to fail imho, I was very supprised when I found out alienware took part in this.

    (Completely edited my text due to a misinterpretation)
     
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    They don't change their design every year, but they do refresh their lineup every year. They are going to release an "R2" of the AW 14, 17, and 18. What will change? Maybe something in the guts. Maybe something on the exterior. Maybe the screens. It could be anything, but it will be something. Companies don't just stop producing products.

    I never said they'll launch it at E3, I said it should be available in a couple weeks, around E3. That's when they released stuff last year, and they haven't done so yet this year. So, it only makes sense that by E3 they will have done something.
     
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    Alienware just emailed mystery coupons on the 29th that expire on June 2nd. E3 is June 10-12... Hmmm, me thinks Alienware is refreshing and the mystery coupons are to help clear out the inventory of their older models ;). Now is the time to find a good deal on an older model!
     
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    AW 14 has the best screen in AW laptop's history:

    IPS with the hier contrast ratio and 1080p.

    BTW i have it and the screen it s super, but it s not for peolple that wants hi performance gaming with new games due to gpu
     
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    Good screen compared to TN panels but it was only decent for an IPS panel. When I had it, it was very grainy/sparkly and has a yellowish tint to it especially on whiter backgrounds, it also had a lot of backlight bleeding. There's some good points on it like the vivid colors, good black level and wide viewing angle.
     
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    how do you know this, where is this written ? oh . . . .nevermind...
     
  40. J.Dre

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    The same way I know I'm going to poop every day. :p
     
  41. BigOh

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    Nothing so far hmmm
     
  42. J.Dre

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    Give it time. New stuff is always going to come out. Unfortunately, I was overly optimistic about E3.
     
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    Lol. +1


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    No maxwell is the only thing stopping me from getting the new 14 to replace my aging M14x
    hopefully dell is gonna release it soon enough
     
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    Same with me, I like everything on the laptop, really everything also with the new CPU's etc. But the lack of 800M series GPU makes it not an option for me. Contrary the announcement of the gigabyte aorus x3 plus, seems to be the one for me to go currently
     
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    Seems like a great alternative as the specs are awesome
    and that 870m is better than the 860m
    just wait for the release price :)
     
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    I purchased my Alienware 17 on 06/14 and it's currently experiencing a delay (lead time as they called it) of about 20 days according to the supervisor and isn't expecting to ship until Mid July. They cite Nvidia as the blame, so that might be the reason for the 14 not being refreshed yet. Just my two cents.
     
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    Is it okay to assume that the AW 14 will get the 860M since there hasn't been a year in which AW hasn't refreshed their models? I don't mind waiting. My AW 14 motherboard's charger port died due to a coke spill recently and only runs on battery if there is juice in it. Hoping I could get my hands on an AW 14 GTX 860M motherboard when it comes out instead of getting a replacement GTX 765 motherboard right now. Patience is key I guess.


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  49. J.Dre

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    It would be stupid to think Alienware wouldn't put Maxwell in their systems, because then they'd be behind their competition. It's only a matter of time.
     
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    Hopefully a motherboard swap would be sufficient. Don't want to buy whole system. When the AW 14 GTX 765M motherboard came out in August last year it was about $475.00 on eBay. It would be nice if the GTX 860M board be around $600.00 - $650.00.


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