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    Why does the m14x run all games poorly?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by swy05, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. swy05

    swy05 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Am I doing something wrong? Seriously, am I that dense?

    I picked up the m14x a couple of days ago and although I got the i5 cpu (shouldn't really make a difference for the below games I'm going to play) all games I've tried so far struggle on this laptop.

    Starcraft 2 will not recognize the GT555m graphics card no matter what I try. I can try launching SC2 using the "Run with graphics processor" right click option but no matter what, it'll always default to the integrated intel graphics.

    When I choose the graphics options in SC2, all of the settings are either medium or low.

    Installed Super Street Fighter 4 AE and did a benchmark test. It only ran at about 50-60fps. Although it did show the GT555m graphics card, the benchmark test was miserable and I only could get a B rating.

    I don't get it, my 5 yr old desktop Intel dual core CPU with a 9800GT graphics card shows 120-140fps for SSF4ae benchmark test. It's also able to get an A rating in the benchmark test.

    Starcraft 2 is able to run on high settings with my old rig.


    I don't understand why everything is running so poorly on this laptop?
     
  2. feroztier

    feroztier Notebook Enthusiast

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    When i got my m14x this happens too, here is what i did to make almost all game run in max settings, make sure ur plugged in into the charger , make sure power plan are high performance, whitelist the games, just left click ur desktop and press nvidia control panel, go to manage 3d settings and select ur exe and use high performance nvidia performance, lastly u could try updating ur graphics driver
     
  3. kimjo42

    kimjo42 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello there fellow owner,

    1st - Are you plugged in? If not, plug it.
    2nd - Is your Nvidia GPU driver up to date? If not, head on over to Nvidia.com and update.
    3rd - Are your power settings set to High performance? If not, set them!

    As for your questions:
    1- Because you're doing something wrong, or you got a lemon.
    2- Too early to tell, but it's a possibility.

    Hope this helps.
     
  4. CGSDR

    CGSDR Alien Master Race

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    You forgot to ask him IF he have add the .exe of the game in NVIDIA Control Panel to tell the game to run with GT555M or another word we call it "Whitelist". the 1st, 2nd and 3rd are the basic, while my addition info is the 4th.

    To OP If you dont know how to whitelist it, then follow this link (Because I'm lazy to type it all out again :p ) - How to Whitelist game .exe in NVIDIA Control Panel . Hope this would also help.
     
  5. niko2021

    niko2021 Notebook Evangelist

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    The gt555m is a great card for this machine. It runs games very well. Make sure you have the games .exe white listed in the nvidia control panel. Unless they will run on the intel integrated graphics.
     
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    smokingjam Notebook Evangelist

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    the games i run all well no probs. some slowdown but while loading.
    deus ex
    crysis
    crysis 2
    skyrim
    transformers war for cybertron
    saints row the third
     
  7. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    you forgot the link buddy :p when you get it fixed can I use it as a reference for people in the m17x forum that don't know what they are doing?
     
  8. CGSDR

    CGSDR Alien Master Race

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    Yeah sure, as long as you give reference, for some reason the BB code seem to mess up in Google Chrome 16 Beta, I will to use FireFox to fix it, now the link is all working again.

    Here's new working link: How to Whitelist game .exe in NVIDIA Control Panel Although the guide is for MW3 only, but it is actually same thing with other game, the only different are those game extension file.
     
  9. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    ill put this in my sig for easy use + rep :)

    Edit: Gave out to much rep today, gotta wait 24 hours :p
     
  10. kimjo42

    kimjo42 Notebook Consultant

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    I didn't forget. The OP mentions trying to "Run with Graphics Processor", which is essentially a temporary whitelisting.
     
  11. CGSDR

    CGSDR Alien Master Race

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    Yes, I know, but I found out sometime that option does not work properly, say Black Ops, last time I try to use that option (to use the Intel HD Graphic), but still end up playing it with the GT555M. But I think it is all depend on games, because game like GTA4 which me and most of our fellow NBR users here are having problem with it, no matter which method you try, it just does not work. So sometime it can be good to try to contact the game tech support or post in their forum.

    QFT, one thing I forgot to mention, which in the section above saying he can run it at 50-60fps, well what I want to say is that the M14x Monitor is a 60Hz (Most Monitor do cap at 60), which mean it is cap at 60 framerate unless you have disable the V-Sync, and I recommend disabling the V-Sync if you want a higher framerate but in the risk of image tearing, random screen flickering and artifact. I think the GT9800 is somewhat equal to the GT555M in comparison exclude the DX11 and the SM5.0.
     
  12. swy05

    swy05 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thx for all the replies.

    I had done the "whitelist" fix for all the games to run using the 555m vid card.

    But I think the thing that made all of the difference is the power management. I changed it to High Performance and that seemed to have made all of the difference in the world.

    But the strange thing though is that when StarCraft 2 loaded up, the settings defaulted everything to medium or low. I manually went and made changes but I thought it was strange that the game would pick up the low, medium settings by default.
     
  13. bigtonyman

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    I think it has something to do with optimus. It puts skyrim on high settings on my machine when it can handle the game on ultra rather easily. Glad to see you got your problem fixed :)
     
  14. XxAlbertoxX

    XxAlbertoxX Notebook Consultant

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    Yo OP, I got the m14x with the specs listed in my sig.

    I have starcraft II lol and I run it on ultra. That game is a joke. 1600x900 too.

    Call of Duty MW3, been running that thing on 60fps, again on ultra 1600x900. Honestly, it's just like MW2

    The only game I seen that pushes this computer/laptop to the edge is BF3. But you would have to try to run it ULTRA on 1600x900, it can def. run it only the 1336x768 res or maybe medium/high graphics with customization.

    DEF. make sure your plugged into the wall outlet, with the performence on HIGH in the control panel. Make you you go to the NVIDIA panel and take off "auto select" and find the game listed and set it to "HIGH PERFORMENCE NVIDIA GPU".

    Then make sure you have all the newest drivers.

    Honestly though, I'm not sure how the i5 is , but I maxed out my m14x except for the SSD, so that makes a difference even though I know people on here like to complain and say it doesnt
     
  15. CGSDR

    CGSDR Alien Master Race

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    This might be off topic but this is relate to BF3, I can run it at 1600x900 on Medium - High and still able to get around 30 - 45fps (With the 285.79 driver Only), my setting is everything is on Medium except for the texture is Ultra, AA and Motion Blur is off, and use the SBAO instead of HBAO. And I have my GT555M OC to 850/1700/1080.

    I dont think the SSD would boost the framerate, instead with the SSD, thing will load much, much faster than the standard HDD. I heard that the i5 isnt that bad, in term of power, it is somewhat similar to the i7, but if you talking about the multitask then, i7 beat i5 all the way! Because i5 is a Quad with no Hyperthreading (HT) while i7 have it, so you can get more thing done faster than the i5. And since most game's now is Graphic intensive like Crysis and BF3 (Partial) for example, so if you want a good framerate then it is best to get the best possible graphic card.
     
  16. swy05

    swy05 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Revisiting this thread.

    The whole time I thought it was the power management options that made a difference but, it wasn't.

    I guess whether it's plugged into the wall or not makes all the difference in the world.

    With my laptop plugged into the outlet, I get 140 fps in super street fighter 4 arcade edition benchmark.

    When my laptop is not plugged in, it drops to a unplayable 40fps in the benchmark test.

    Strange.
     
  17. CGSDR

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    It's not strange, it's a new technology provided by NVIDIA's called the Optimus, it auto switch your GPU to the integrate graphic to save battery and reset back to normal when you plug in the power cable. However under the circumstance when you still want to run the game on the NVIDIA GPU while on battery, it will downclock the GPU to save battery.
     
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    Lancer91 Notebook Consultant

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    CGSDR Alien Master Race

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    Oops, I confuse with the i5 Sandy Bridge Desktop Series, i5 SB Desktop has no HT while it is a Quad. My bad :eek:
     
  20. Kantide

    Kantide Notebook Geek

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    The problem with the "Run with graphics processor" or even whitelisting is that some games have seperate launchers and exe files so if you whitelist the launcher it may still run the game exe itself under the intel card. Only way to make sure it will run on the NVidia card is to whitelist the actual game exe itself.