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    Theres a problem if you replace the optical drive with a HDD

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by Paddon, May 12, 2011.

  1. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    ok i have been speaking to BatBoy about this as well and we cant figure out why it is doing this but heres the problem..

    My second hard drive ( optical hard drive ) keeps disapearing, it cant be found on my computer or the disk manager, but if i open up my laptop and disconnect the hard drive and reconnect it when i boot the laptop up again it will be there.

    Any advise ?

    And to people that cant find there hard drive to start with go to control panel>system and security>administration tool>computer manager>storage>disk manager. you will see your hard drive there and you will need to right click it and select "create new simple volume" and then you can see it in my computer.

    if anyone can help me with my problem i will greatly apreciate it !


    thanks
     
  2. sk3tch

    sk3tch Notebook Deity

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    No problems whatsoever with mine. My guess is your replacement HDD caddy for the optical bay is faulty/cheap so it flakes out intermittently.
     
  3. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    All is good now, some reason after i installed all the drivers its keeping put :D
     
  4. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok i got the problem again... i was just transfer a game file from an external HDD to the HDD in the caddy and it kinda froze for about a minute and then it started going again but it was quickly followed by a error message saying it cant locate the hard drive, And sure enough when i open up my computer the HDD wasn't there. I tried restarting the laptop many times and it still wouldnt appear so i had to remove the back cover and take the connector out and push it back in and when i booted the laptop up again it was there

    any ideas why this is happening to me ?
     
  5. erephus

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    I don't know what options there is in the BIOS regarding the drive. So I just trying the get an idea of thougth, or what to say.

    Is there an option to detect this second drive in BIOS?
    If so if you leaves this undetected will this behaviour change?
     
  6. madmantm

    madmantm Notebook Consultant

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    I had the same issue having the drive disappearing when i had another usb device connected at boot.

    also, i noticed that external cdrom drives operate better in the legacy usb 2.0 port on the left.

    so when you boot disconnect all your usb devices see if this helps you more.
     
  7. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't have that problem, it doesn't disappear when i restart my laptop.. it randomly disappears when using the laptop and accessing the hard drive and the only way to get it back is to disconnect the hard drive from inside and reconnect it, but having things plugged in via usb is not an issue

    :D

    Also i will just mention i can not see it in bios i can only see my ssd one :eek:
     
  8. 2GStyle

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    From the sound of it you have something faulty. Is there anything common when the issue comes about? Movement of the laptop, run time, temp, use, etc... My best guess as someone stated earlier is that your caddy is bad, or as I read before you said you had to "peel" the sata cable back from the CD drive and possibly damage it... this is less likely but still possible.

    edit: Side questions. Is your V3 SSD using SATA III 6GB? and you have any pictures of your install of the drives?
     
  9. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    could it be a damaged ribbon cable ?

    it was kinda tricky ripping it of the optical drive and sticking it to the caddy, i suspect it got damaged. But would it loose connection randomly when transferring files but be fine if left alone.. does that sound like the symptoms of a damaged ribbon cable ?
     
  10. sk3tch

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    That or your caddy is bad. My HDD is rock solid in my Alienware M14x. I have a 500GB in the main bay and a 750GB in the caddy. I will be putting in my SSD this weekend.
     
  11. Paddon

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    i dont think its the caddy, when i say i take the connection out i dont take the connection out where its connected to the caddy i take it out on the other end where the strip just slots down.

    so i think damaged ribbon ;/
     
  12. ted264

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    well you can always put the optical bay back to test the ribbon cable?
     
  13. Paddon

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    this is the connector i remove and replace to fix it

    [​IMG]
     
  14. sk3tch

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    Ah m8 thats so unfair.... You brake yours and it works and mine is perfectly fine but ****** ! Lol :p
     
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    what caddys did you guys buy? im looking into getting one.... but want to get a perfect fit
     
  17. Paddon

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    i got the same problem paddon, i believe it's the same caddy :(

    can't get my secondary drive to work either ssd or regular hdd.

    :S those ribbons are pretty tuff imo
     
  19. FlipBack

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    Hahahaha wow. The first time I read this I didn't realize you meant My Computer as in in Windows. I thought you meant physically opening your computer. I was like "wow, that is interesting!"
     
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    Intel RST driver. Makes sure the latest version is installed and make sure you have the service to set immediately and not "Delayed". For some reason I think it has to be installed and running for the optic drive to be subst with a HDD or SSD.
     
  21. madmantm

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    +repped, i saw an improvement with the RST driver.
    :)