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    Sandy Bridge to Ivy bridge on M14x R1 upgrade possible?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by Muskytaru, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. Muskytaru

    Muskytaru Notebook Guru

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    Does anyone know if it is going to be possible to use the new Ivy bridge in the current Motherboard of the M14r1?

    I hope I wrote that correcty to properly construe my question.
     
  2. owatch15

    owatch15 Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, it should right. I mean. Remember the R2 came out with the Sandy bridge I7's in place. And now it has the Ivy bridge. The r2 first sold with the I7's that the r1 also supported. So the socket type is the same.

    It should support Ivy Bridge, yes. Alienware even said they were changing orders with Sandy Bridge to Ivy bridge if you ordered one recently. Imagine the hassle if it were to change the motherboard. It really should I think.
     
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    not worth the money.
     
  4. Muskytaru

    Muskytaru Notebook Guru

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    I got mine in the mail about 2 weeks ago. That is why I was curious. I didnt know about the R2 until recently.
     
  5. owatch15

    owatch15 Notebook Consultant

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    Probably /
     
  6. TheBadCharacter

    TheBadCharacter Newbie

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    I must interject and ask how much of a performance difference shifting from a Sandy Bridge to an Ivy Bridge would make? Would it be significant enough to invest the money in upgrading?
     
  7. RocketPower

    RocketPower Notebook Enthusiast

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    Unfortunately you can't upgrade to IB in the R1. The only possibility, which I'm looking into, is upgrading the entire motherboard, which I think seems to have the following benefits:

    1) IB compatible
    2) Newer discrete graphics from NVIDIA
    3) It's being advertised and sold with SATA3 drives, so anyone who's had to throttle back their SATA3 SSD to SATA2 with the R1 will finally have the SSD speeds they paid for.
    4) Integrated graphics is a lot better than the R1, so you don't have to rely on the power-hungry discrete graphics for regular use.
    5) Better battery life with IB.

    Now all we need to know is if the new mobo is the same form factor and interface with the r1 mobo.
     
  8. Thornox

    Thornox Notebook Consultant

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    Rocketpower, how much do you think a new mobo will cost if you can find one?
     
  9. flalex

    flalex Notebook Enthusiast

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    if i got my R1 on january 1st ish, anyway i can get a R2?
     
  10. MetalgodZ

    MetalgodZ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Waiting on this info...I'm pretty disappointed with the reliability of the R1 and the poor SATA III support. Is gladly pay a small upgrade fee if they'd swap me over to an R2 board.
     
  11. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you're comparing strictly performance on the same laptop with discrete graphics, IB won't perform noticeably better in most situations. Especially since most Alienware laptops are for gaming, which isn't CPU bound.

    Probably costs as much as half a new laptop, generally not worth it.
     
  12. bokchoy83

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    There saying a 15 % bump in performance.
     
  13. owatch15

    owatch15 Notebook Consultant

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    Now what we really need to find out is if the R2 Motherboard will fit inside the R1 chassis?

    Does anyone know about this?

    YES, R1 can take R2 motherboard!!!!

    Here is a chat with Dell support

    *REMOVED*
    Do not post content from private correspondence, such as email or chat, within the forums.


    Please paraphrase next time.
     
  14. CGSDR

    CGSDR Alien Master Race

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    Where did you get that info that you cant upgrade to IB with the R1's motherboard? Since the IB is also backward compatible then Yes you can upgrade it: Intel Ivy Bridge Chips Launching Early April 2012, and because of the new motherboard is also the same one that the SB is used on, even it is different, I dont think it will change much, so it is both SB/IB compatible, and all of the bullet point you said are only benefit If you pop a IB in, because that's the advantage of the IB CPU, not the new motherboard. Unless you plan to upgrade the GPU too, that's you'll have to replace the motherboard entirely, because the GT555M is soldered on the board.
     
  15. Muskytaru

    Muskytaru Notebook Guru

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    Contacted dell, they are accepting my return. Ordering the R2. screw that.
     
  16. owatch15

    owatch15 Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry about my last post it was closed because I broke forum rules by posting my chat with the Dell rep.

    Like I said earlier, the R1 takes the R2 motherboard

    The reason I am reposting is because several people told me this was mostly untrue, since the rep apparently had no idea what they were telling me

    I would like to tell you that you would then be telling 3 reps that they were wrong. As I was transferred 3 times, and each time they acknowledged the question, (I re-asked everything)

    If I didn't break another forum rule, this thread should be open to discussion
    :eek:
     
  17. Tsukurimashou

    Tsukurimashou Notebook Evangelist

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    Reps knows nothing, 90% of the time they will tell you what you want to hear, call the technical support and ask them directly, even them will probably don't know but probably still more than the reps.
     
  18. anselben

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    I've been trying, unfortunately no luck

    Are you able to return because you're within the 21 or 30 days or whatever?
     
  19. spencer.spinach

    spencer.spinach Notebook Guru

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    Hello, I was wondering if the m14x r1 supports 3rd gen processor upgrade, particularily the i7 3820QM. Thanks!
     
  20. jakx77

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    I think the Ivy Bridge uses a new motherboard.
     
  21. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    no you cant, the chipset cant handle it
     
  22. Tsukurimashou

    Tsukurimashou Notebook Evangelist

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    I think you can because Ivy bridge use the same socket as sandy bridge, Ivy bridge is just a tick.
     
  23. Esco

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    thats correct you can defenetly can go for it.
     
  24. Muskytaru

    Muskytaru Notebook Guru

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    Well, sort of. I am not able to post dell chat info, but there was an issue with the Gpu that I expressed a concern about so they took it back a few days after the return window and didnt charge the restocking fee.
     
  25. anselben

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    Oh well that's nice, glad it worked out for you! I've had issues with the Gpu as well, only thing is I'm about a month out of the return window :\
     
  26. spencer.spinach

    spencer.spinach Notebook Guru

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    Ok, I know for sure that you can change the processor, but I'm not sure who's right. Has anyone actually upgraded to 3rd gen?
     
  27. smokeydogsmokey

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    id wait til they sort the heating issues out first
     
  28. Tsukurimashou

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    What heating issues? I heard it's cooler than sandy bridge.
     
  29. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    3770K vs 2700K on air, temps are lower on a 2700K

    Intel admitted die shrunk made more heat.
     
  30. sparklesmcgraw

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    Seems odd.

    Intial R2 temps temps seem quite a bit lower than the R1 on both CPU and GPU.
     
  31. spencer.spinach

    spencer.spinach Notebook Guru

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    Could you swap the motherboard on the r1 for the motherboard of the r2?
     
  32. Esco

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    no you can´t it will not fit in the R1, i already asked a rep on dell, thats why i hate it that they don´t made an external grafics card for the R2...
     
  33. Sam_A_1992

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    Ivy bridge does produce slightly more heat but use less power than SB.
     
  34. Technocratic Vic

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    I second that...Today a rep told me that the R2 had a wireless HD receiver, built in with the wifi card
     
  35. digitalprods

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    The socket is the same however, the chipsets required will be different. The Sandy Bridge (SB) use the HD3000 integrated video where as the Ivy Bridge (IB) will be using the HD4000 integrated video. Aside from that, there is the difference in memory bandwidth (1066 vs 1600 in SB and IB respectively) as well as IB's support for USB3.0. I do not think that that plopping an IB into the R1 is worth the cost seeing how you lose many of the things that make it worth the upgrade.
     
  36. Insomniac89

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    Does anybody have a definitive answer if this is possible? I have a option to get a R1 pretty cheap without a proc and am hoping to plunk a Ivy Bridge CPU in it, however there does not appear to be a concrete answer.

    If someone here has tried it, would you be able to let us know?
     
  37. ebondefender

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    I hope mine comes with a teleporter. That would be sweet. :cool:
     
  38. mimarsinan

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    I have actually tried this, and I can confirm it does not work. The system lights come on but the display never receives any text.