M14x and the AW2310

Hey fellow m14x owners!

I brought the 14x like 2 months ago and suddenly I turend my whole desk into a alienware light show. I brought the keyboard the mouse a nice cooling fan. So when I am home I can dock the laptop on a larger screen and better quality tiping and controlling it etc.

So in my alien ware shopping mases I was very interested in the optx aw2310
I read allot about it and I brought it. Especial for the 3d ready options. After asking like a thousand times to alien ware "experts" in the dell chat to ask if the aw2310 is connectible with the m14x for 3d game play they all told me YES ><

And now I am here... And I think you already know what I want to ask right? Thats right: It doesn't support 3d trough hdmi 1.4. Because the aw2310 has an HDMI1 port. Little bit stupid of myself because I needed to do some research. Aldo i thought the alien ware "experts" could help me out.

Now is my qeustion how am I able to get 3d on that screen? Is it corect that the gt 555m can provide 120hz trough out the mini display port? If so i can buy an aple mini display adapter to dvi dual. Is this correct? Or is there not a change to get the Nvidia 3kit working with the m14x and the aw2310?

I hope you guys can help me out.

Groeten uit Nederland!

 

Hello and welcome to NBR.

You'll have to use the dual link DVI connector for the AW2310 to output above 60Hz.
So you'll need a mini DP (display port) to dual link DVI adapter.

 

Well thank you! Any body knows for sure the gt 555m provides 120 hz trough out the mini display port?

 

do you mean to say it is HDMI version 1?

i guess devices built to the HDMI 1.4 specification will be fully backwards-compatible with existing HDMI devices and their features.

you prolly need to tweak some settings as i have read posts from many users unable to output their display on big screen using hdmi port.


as far as GPU goes, gt555m does have 120hz. it supports all sort of 3d games.
also, dell xps 17 has gt555m and it comes with 3-d display.

 

The AW2310 does simply not output 120Hz thru HDMi in, dual link DVi is the only way.

 

Is the DP port on the M14x linked to the nVidia GPU? If not, then Optimus will prevent 3D Vision, even 3D Play, from working.

 

DP port is linked to GT555m

 

Optimus is disabled while connected to an external monitor, so don't worry.
As <s>neutron</s> nuaron pointed out, the DP is linked to the 555M only, so is the HDMi port.

 

"neutron" sounds cool too. i am sure this userid is taken haha!

 

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Ok guys! Thank you for the solutions and the adding(s)

I did fix it indeed with the mini display port. I needed to buy an apple mini display port to dual div adapter.

Funny my whole docking station is Alien ware the mouse the keyboard the screen. But to make it work I just needed an APPLE adapter.

Ok I know that we all have an alien ware m14x and we are proud of it. It has such power full hardware and the laptop it self is such a peace of art. And some of us needed to safe a lot of money to obtain one.

But really guys I dont like to says this but the expertise of the alienware suport and sells experts is a no go.

irst they told me that it was able to gain 3d vision throughout the HDMI cable... and then when I told them It wasn't because the screen only support 3 vision throughout the DVI dual input, they had the solution: send the laptop back and we build you and dvi dual output in it for just 700 euro.

LOL They didn't offer me to buy an other 3d screen of another brand that does support 3d trough hdmi. Or they didn't suggest an adapter. They are so stupid. And all the times I asked the alienware experts they told me it should be possible trough out hdmi.

So I became mad when I brought the screen and It didn't work through out the hdmi cable of course. So I called the alien-ware support department, gheus what? Now I need to send them an email to tell them if I did fix it with an apple mini display port 2 dvi d adapter.

ITS INSANE!!!

 

I bought my adaptor at MonoPrice. Its not an Apple Adaptor, it just happens that apple makes one. Mine cost about 11 bucks shipped, and works flawless.

Also, I'm 99% sure you can get 3D from this HDMI port...Like, even the Dell documentation says a 1.4 HDMI cable and the right setup will work.

 

Aw, i can't believe i forgot to tell you NOT to buy that overpriced Apple adapter.
You can find it for literally 10 times cheaper and does the same thing.

 

I think the dual link adaptors are still over 80usd today.


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Edit: I'm sorry, I didn't notice this was an old topic

 

This brings up a question...

Since the AW2310 is your product, I will just take it for granted that the "not above 60 Hz over HDMI" is a limitation of the AW2310 and not somewhere else in the chain.


But, at least with Nvidia GeForce (I have M17x with GTX 680 and 3D display), the output over HDMI seems to be limited in ways that the HDMI output from AMD's Radeon GPUs is not.


Trying to hook up the M17xR4 over HDMI to a nice 50" 120Hz capable 3D flatscreen, I was notified by the Nvidia driver, that output over HDMI is limited to the following 2 modes:

720p @ 60 Hz
1080p @ 24 Hz

Obviously, I didn't want to play at 720p on a 50" monitor

but sending a 24 Hz signal to a 120 Hz display is just ridiculous!
It makes your game look like old 1930's propaganda movies!

edit:
just found some more info...

Anything before HDMI 1.4a didn't even support any 3D signal...

And conveniently, the HDMI LLC is cracking down on people writing the HDMI version number on the boxes, so if any manufacturer tells you on the cable or on the box which version it is, they get in legal trouble!

So it'll be even harder buying the 'right' type of HDMI cable..

apparently there's a version 1.4b in the works which *might* improve the current lousy state of things...

 

There's no such thing as 'the right cable'. A cable is a cable, dismantle them and you won't see a difference other than the quality of shielding & wires etc.

On the M17x, not only you're limited by the HDMI output but the AW2310 can't output 120Hz using HDMI-in no matter what.

 

Well, HDMI LLC seems to make a big difference between their cable versions. And they just made a big legal point of eliminating the HDMI version numbers and instead stamping their various cable types with "High Speed for such and such" or other purpose bound designations I can't all remember now, but can be observed on their website.

I saw a blurb on the HDMI website about "upgrading your computer to HDMI" that made me laugh, considering what a HUGE downgrade it is from DVI's supported resolutions and refresh rates...

The AW3210 needs an update anyway, I was considering it, but it doesn't support LightBoost for the incredibly improved 3D Vision 2, and its only 24"... I don't want small or dark.

I imagine you know the difference first hand, since Alienware's M17xR4 has LightBoost 2 and its the first time 3D looks good in games and not way too dark. Just 17" is umm.. very small

If you could point me to a single 40" 120 Hz 3D TV that has a Dual Link DVI connector on it, so we can play with a decent picture on a non-dinky screen, I would be very thankful!



P.S. or what about a ~40+" TV with DisplayPort? it seems nobody talks much about DisplayPort... but it *might* not have the limitations of HDMI?

 

Very true.

I'm not much of a TV guy, sorry. But why not post a thread in the Accessories section, i'm sure you'll get a few suggestions