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    M14x R2 is out now

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by jebelious, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. jebelious

    jebelious Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well is in the UK, not sure about anywhere else (not checked)

    Specifications look good and the option for dual HD's, Blu Ray optical, GT650m Nvidia 2Gig and up to 16Gig 1600Mhz DDr3.

    Is it wrong that i am hoping the motherboard fails again so i can get a refund to get the r2?
     
  2. DjId10t

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    It is out here in the US as well, video card is the GT650m. The CPU's did not change.
     
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    the blu-ray slot drive is the only thing i am interested in. i wonder if you can buy that separately and if it will fit the R1 m14x.
     
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    Have the CPU's been upped to the sandy bridge variants?
     
  5. owatch15

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    The GPU interests me..how much performance can I expect over the 555?

    And it looks like there is no more M11x on the Alienware site..... :0

    Did they just discontinue the M11x???

    A new GPU, and more memory seem to be the big highlights of the revision
     
  6. Evil_Mask

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    Who would ever need that much ram?

    Apparently yes, no more m11x...Too bad cause I was really considering buying one.
     
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    lolz after seeing this news i quickly rang dell and cancelled my current pre production m14x r1, lucky they take their time in making them lol!
    Just rang up and made a m14x r2 with blueray and the new graphics card!
    Bit more pricy, but what do you expect :p

    A bit annoyed the sales rep i rang 2 weeks ago didnt tell me that the r2 was just a week or 2 away :(
     
  8. nuaron

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    only good news for R1 owner is availablity of a blu ray slot loaded drive :D
    dual HDD is a scam by them. they are putting in mSATA SSD card in PCI-e slot next to the WIFI adapter. max stated speed is Read: 200Mbps - Write: 40Mbps

    I guess they didnt move towards ivy bridge maybe to wait some more for prices to go down. Since i am sure that with the new GPU, motherboard layout and related stuff must have already been updated.All they would do later on is put in ivy chip
     
  9. truciet

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    Due to the new GPU's, that means a new motherboard also. I hope they fixed all the issues with so many dead motherboards on the current r1...

    I cancelled my Dell Outlet order due to the many reports of dead MB's, dead GPU's, and CPU socket :(

    It was a really good deal but I can't afford to be down often sigh.
     
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    No idea. More of a marketing scheme
     
  11. shadow1013

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    1. They may not have even known there was going to be an update.
    2. If they did I'm sure they are not allowed to tell anyone unless it gets officially announced.
     
  12. willz92

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    Fair enough, just annoying odering just over a week ago then the update comes out :p
    Like buying a ps3 and a week later the ps4 gets released xD
     
  13. smokeydogsmokey

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    the new cards any better? wonder how mucha blue ray will be hmmmm
     
  14. nuaron

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    i hope the card is decent enough cuz it has to support blu ray now
     
  15. ASASHINOTSUKI

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    i dont know for certain but i think going from DDR3 to DDR5 is all i need to run ff14 on semi-high specs to full specs. im pretty mad i bought mine R1 2 months ago and now i seem to be fairly SOL.
     
  16. Rilez

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    Does Dell, or Alienware have some kind of trade-in program where I can send my M14x R1 back, get the new R2 and pay the difference?
     
  17. ASASHINOTSUKI

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    this is exactly what i want to know. id pay a few hundred to get the motherboard with the 2gb DDR5 >.<
     
  18. Kingofheart4711

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    Me too my friend, ME TOOOOO.

    My god I JUST got my r1 one week ago today. Im about to call them and see what the policy is on returning it!
     
  19. Super Octet

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    If you're from the US, I believe that you have 21 days to return it and get a full refund.
    Lucky you !
     
  20. ASASHINOTSUKI

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    there has to be some way to get my GPU upgraded :( it would be a huge hassle and loss to sell the R1 then order an R2
     
  21. nevup

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    Hi, everyone. I am new here :)

    luckily I hold myself until now, instead of ordering a R1 one week ago. Probably there is a minor improve ignored, that is the integrated bluetooth 4.0 by default. I am quite happy with it since I have some bluetooth devices.

    Considering that the first release of ivy will be 4 cores i7, I guess it will be quite pricy...even now I don't find an option for i7 2670qm. Paying 200 pound from i5 2450m to i7 2760qm seem to be a waste.
     
  22. Kingofheart4711

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    Wow. No one can tell me Dell isnt Awesome. I just got off the phone with the returns department. She told me that since my order was delayed originally that they would waive the 15% restocking fee and give me a FULL 100% REFUND seeing as how it is only day 8 of the 21 day window. ALSO they said that if I decide to Keep it they will give me a $135 return!! SWEET!!

    Just gotta make up my mind now i guess lol
     
  23. ASASHINOTSUKI

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    i need to call and see if there is any way they could help me lol. its driving me nuts since just yesterday i was telling someone that DDR3 was my only regret with getting the m14x but a ddr5 wasnt an option
     
  24. Super Octet

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    I think you should wait Monday before you make your choice.
    Things are moving on this thread : http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-r2-m18x-r2-coming-speculation-thread-96.html

    M14xR2 may get Ivy Bridge on monday.

    I don't know what the performance gain from gt555M to gt650m GDDR5 will be like and I'm waiting to get more info on this to make up my mind about upgrading.
     
  25. ASASHINOTSUKI

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    i guess i should wait and see how different the card is before i go all gung-ho about this. but either way my machine was outdated in 2 months, i'll pay the difference to get upgraded if i can somehow
     
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    Anyone else a little dissapointed thats it's only a 650M?
    Hell you can get that in a 11.6" CLEVO too, was expecting at least a 660M.
    Hopefully there will be some AMD options too.
     
  27. Super Octet

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    I'm already pretty impressed with the gt555M already.
    Do you know how the 650m should compare ?
     
  28. HSN21

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    650M is true kepler, not only it's a very cold card (no overheating) but it's much much more powerful and for a reason

    IVY bridge GPU got a huge boost, so nvidia had to make their 640-650m range more powerful or no company will buy them, the lower range is already obsolete since Intel GPU beats them

    Here is Acer 640m (DDR3) with crapy CPU compared to m14x with 555m and Quad high end CPU 3d mark 2011
    [​IMG]

    Acer Aspire Timeline Ultra M3 Specs, Performance and Benchmarks
     
  29. ASASHINOTSUKI

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    and thats just the DDR3 version?
     
  30. HSN21

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    Yes, official Nvidia reference DDR5 version come as 2GB not 1GB

    Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    anandtech also got another review and list it precisely as DDR3 not DDR5 for the GPU

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5672/acer-aspire-timelineu-m3-life-on-the-kepler-verge

    They probably canceled m11x for a reason, if you want m11x performance pretty much plenty of laptops will fulfill that need with basic intel GPU now.

    M14X even with 640m would do much better scores duo the better CPU (acer laptop got a CPU bottleneck)
     
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    I see the alien changed up their laptops lately and I have some questions about the remade m14x one.

    Video card: would buying the second one make any noticeable difference then the first one? (it would save me money if I get the first one)

    1 GB DDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M with Optimus™
    or
    2 GB DDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M with Optimus™

    Wireless cards: what is the difference between these two and which would be better for just to use around the house?

    Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230 With Bluetooth 4.0
    or
    Intel® Advanced-N WiFi Link 6250 a/g/n 2x2 MIMO Technology with WiMax and Bluetooth 4.0
     
  32. Kingofheart4711

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    Ill definitely take my time making that decision. Im not gonna be ordering the R2 until after they receive the return anyway if I decide to go that route that is. I will most likely go ahead and do it though, I mean why not right?

    She did say it could take 30 calendar days to receive the refund but also that that is something they just tell the customers as a NLT date and in my case as soon as they receive it they will go ahead and approve the refund.

    She kept saying "In your case" lol They do all they can to make it up to you when your order is delayed apparently! =)

    Just give them a call and see what they can do for you. Theres only a few minor things that Ive noticed so far but it is supposed to be a better graphics card and im curious about that 750hd + the 32gb mSATA ssd. Dunno about the Blu ray. $200 is pricey
     
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    I think the wises thing to do is buy the lowest end model at 1099 usd and swap our CPU, screen into the new one and sale our old M14 for what ever the market can even if we sale it 800usd we will endup with a new M14xR1 for 400 usd
     
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    Ivy Bridge won't be out for another week or two. Even Sager has started offering their new models with Sandy Bridge. I have a bad feeling Ivy Bridge is delayed a lot longer than Intel expected, otherwise I don't see the point in introducing a new laptop with a new CPU available just a week or two away. But they may have thought the Kepler 650m was enough of a reason to release. Nice that they finally added blu-ray. Although a 1080p screen would have been nice as an option with blu-ray.
     
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    After doing some reading im convinced we should wait another week or two before ordering. Im gonna be returning mine before then just so I can get the process started on my refund. Then after the 29th (The supposed release date of Ivy Bridge) Ill see what kind of options are available and go ahead and order.

    Acordning to CNet Anyone who orders one right now is a sucker lol ALTHOUGH Seeing as how the ship dates are set to May 17th They could offer the upgrade option at a discount when Ivy Bridge drops. :rolleyes: Hmmmm...
     
  36. ASASHINOTSUKI

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    lol i just got off of chat with an off shore sales rep, he forwarded me to a best buy trade in site where they would probably give me like $50 for the machine. not at all sure what i should do now >.<
     
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    There goes my resale value.
     
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    Must.. resist.. selling..
     
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    Must.. resist.. buying..
     
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    So whats the point of it now? It most likely has the GT650M GDDR5, which will perform very nicely, but the 11 inch Sager NP6110 has the same exact GPU. I mean I understand a lot of people will still buy it, but cant you just get the same thing in a smaller package? Seems almost like a waste now. Maybe the fan will be super duper quiet though.. Lack of GTX 660M is disappointing I have to say..

    Also lets hope its not DDR3. Imagine how embarrassing that would be :p
     
  41. Thornox

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    1 GB DDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M with Optimus™ [Included in Price]
    2 GB DDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M with Optimus™ [Add $100.00 or $3.00/month1]
    Alienware Recommended


    It already tells gddr5 so no worries. The thing I am curious is that how much performance increase with respect to gt555m?
     
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    Well it seems like the GT 640M DDR3 is about on par with a GT 555M (DDR 192-bit in our R1), so Im thinking about GTX 560M performance being very possible.
     
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    You guys really think DELL build a new motherboard for the M14X just as a place holder until ivy bridge is released ? :D

    Clevo and other companies are taking preorders for the new ivy bridge machines they can't just list the CPU yet due to intel terms

    So basically if you order now a 2760qm you get 3720qm on any of the Alienware machines that's why the ship dates are like 5/17
     
  44. Quadzilla

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    Yeah Speedy this is exactly what they and other resellers have been doing for actually sometime otherwise they cannot list anything for preorders, but i guess people just do not understand how to read between the lines so to speak.
     
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    Thanks Quad I was quite impressed the company's do this because is confusing to the customers but it makes sense they want to start selling machines I also think that's why they lower the nda to the 23
     
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    hey guys.. new here , just wanted your input and suggestions on my little issue please! so here's whats going on.. i ordered my m14x almost a month ago , the one with
    8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz
    Intel Core i7-2670QM 2.2GHz
    NV GeForce GT555M 1.5GB VRAM

    got it for 1400$ luckily but now I see the R2 just came out.. is it worth my time to ship this one back for full refund and then get the r2 version with the 2 GB DDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M and the updated hard drive that comes with the 32GB mSATA Caching SSD ?? also comes with the new sound option of Creative Sound Blaster Recon3Di .. is the new 650m gpu and the option for a 32gb caching ssd ( prob to boot windows on ) really worth me shipping back?? because if it is , I don't mind waiting till next month to get it.. thanks :)
     
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    If you bought it 1 month ago didnt your 21 days full refund return passed?
    I am in the same condition as you, but I need the GT650m vs GT555m comparison to give a decision
     
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    You basically answer your question with all those improvements I would say yes do it :)
     
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    It's same motherboard and socket, backwards compatible with SB. I know they can't list them due to NDA, but to sell a new model with a new Intel chip literally a week or two away (supposedly) is odd.
     
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    and how you explain the new Kepler GPU ? :p

    Also ivy socket is PGA sandy is BGA

    The chipset is not backward compatible hm67-hm77
     
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