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    M14 is the most powerful??

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by HEUR, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. HEUR

    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    I know that m14x is the most powerful 14 inches machine. But, what other 14 inches system is close to it??
     
  2. Bendak

    Bendak Notebook Evangelist

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    Though it may only have a 14" screen the M14x will likely be the size of the average 15" laptop.. I guess the competition in that category will be stiff.
     
  3. HEUR

    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    And m15x should compite with 17 inches laptop or what??? :D :D :D
     
  4. Bendak

    Bendak Notebook Evangelist

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    Actually, yeah.. that's why it's at the end of the line lol.
     
  5. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    its going to compete against 15.6'', the HP dv6 is more powerful than this. Such a gaming machine!
     
  6. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    Rofl, that gpu in the hp is way slower than the 555m. Not even in the same class. Not to mention that hp downclocks their gpu's because they overheat in their designs that try to compete with apple. Also the CPU and memory is slower. Sounds better alright. Does it even have wireless hd? :p
     
  7. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    From what I have seen, the AMD6770 and the GT555m are basically equal, with the 6770 coming out slightly ahead. And HP doesn't downclock their GPUs on the dv6, that is only on the Envy. The m14x also has the same memory speed and CPU options as the dv6.

    I am not arguing for or against anything, just pointing out facts.
     
  8. hawk1410

    hawk1410 Bird of Prey

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    While the M14x is larger than most 14inch laptops it is also smaller than ALL 15inch ones. Apart from thickness and weight. Reason for thickness- Better cooling, reason for weight- better build materials(lol i sound like a fanboi; I guess I am).
    Where did you get that from? The 6770m is a little faster than the GT55m. Also they both have the same processor. RAM is slower but you can add 1600mhz yourself, which is probably the thing most M14x buyer will end up doing cause AW charges a premium for no reason.
    GT555M with 3gb DDR3 Vram(on Dell XPS 17) 3d Mark 11 result
    AMD 6770m with 1gb GDDR5 Vram(on HP dv6t qe) 3d Mark 11 result
    Both results are from NBR users. Found them out here
    Anyway, having said that i still don't feel that the HP is better, the GPU may be slightly better but the screen res is just awful.
     
  9. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    It is also deeper than most 15'' notebooks. The only thing it has on most of them is that it isn't as long. It is deeper, thicker and heavier than most 15'' notebooks. It is bigger, by most standards, than most 15'' notebooks.
     
  10. hawk1410

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    Yeah, I guess it is, but most 15 inch notebooks that it is deeper than have the GT540m, the ones with the GTX460m are larger.
    Either way this is the most portable gaming machine you can have. Only this HP dv4 comes close to it with a 6750m with 1gb GDDR5. But as of now it is only available in some Asian markets(as far as i know India only). It costs 900$ in India and should cost around 600-700USD in the US if it is ever launhced there. But it only has an i5 processor, though it is significantly smaller than the M14x, but HP build quality=/= Alienware quality in any way. Its only plus is the price. Might steal half of M14x's(perhaps even the M11x's) sales if launched in the US. But i doubt this will launch in the US. Though it does mean the Envy 14 will atleast have the 6750m, but that'd be too expensive to give the M14x a run for its money. Anyway they'll probably underclock it for the Envy. But i saw the DV4 at a store and again that flimsy HP build quality, loads of flex on the lid, it was like a trampoline.
     
  11. 5150Joker

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    HP low end notebooks are very low quality. I bought one from Costco a while back as a hold over and it had a really crappy display, flimsy keyboard and it overheated.
     
  12. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    6770m has a 3dmark vantage score of about 6,000 while the 555m is over 8,000 with a tiny overclock. That's above GTX 460
     
  13. HEUR

    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    m14x is a small laptop.
    [​IMG]
    Height
    1.49 inches
    Width
    13.27 inches
    Depth
    10.17 inches

    In the depth, they are considering the hinge cover depth too..
    [​IMG]

    Any gaming 15.6 inches laptop is considerably bigger...

    ASUS G50VT:
    [​IMG]
    Height
    1.6 inches
    Width
    14.8 inches
    Depth
    10.4 inches

    Clevo Metabox W150HNQ
    [​IMG]
    Height
    1.46 inches
    Width
    14.72 inches
    Depth
    9.84 inches

    Gateway NV55C38u
    [​IMG]
    Height
    1.34 inches
    Width
    14.99 inches
    Depth
    9.96 inches

    The purpose of this thread is to mention only 14 inches laptop, not big monsters...
     
  14. hawk1410

    hawk1410 Bird of Prey

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    Do you even have any proof, if you would've seen my last post it was pretty much clear that the 6770m has a much higher 3d Mark 11 score. While I am in no way saying that the HP is a better laptop but the 6770m is definitely the better GPU. No arguments to that.
     
  15. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    Your the one trolling, Do a little digging around before you jump in a thread and try bombing it with 15-17" GPU's. This thread was started by someone asking about 14" laptops out there. If they wanted a 15" laptop they would obviously get one.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/566206-overclocking-gt-555m-card-5.html

    Also forgot to mention 3dmark 06 is 15,000. You can't even OC a HP because they overheat. Take a look at the HP forums with even the new laptops.
     
  16. chewietobbacca

    chewietobbacca Notebook Evangelist

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    Ugh, the build websites all show the GT 555M listed as DDR3... not GDDR3 much less GDDR5

    Clock speeds look fine if they aren't downclocked, and 192-bit width helps, but that's a disappointment
     
  17. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    I think they didn't include DDR5 to keep the costs down or to keep it from intruding on higher end GPU models.
     
  18. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    Probably the same 555M which is found in the XPS line, so should have some overclocking potential.
     
  19. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    The 555M is not pulling a GPU score of 8k.

    Stop your madness.
     
  20. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    My 280m got 55-6000, no way 555m is at all faster. It has 16 more shaders and improved architecture, but 25% less bandwidth in ddr3.
     
  21. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Now I am convinced you two are trolling.

    1. The notebooks you gave are poor comparisons and they still are about the same thickness, weight and depth as the m14x

    2. There haven't been any reported overheating problems with the new dv6, and there weren't many with the last generation one as well. I OC'd the 5650 in my old dv6z to almost AMD5850 performance.
     
  22. Benchmade 42

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    GT 555m>GTS 360m/GTX 260m
     
  23. Kevin

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    You mean the 5850 w/ GDDR3, right?

    The 5650 can't sniff the faster version.
     
  24. HEUR

    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    Haha. You are trolling... Who cares about thickness??? And why you are trying to compare it with a silly and poor HP... Is like trying to compare a Ferrari with a Daewoo... The thread is about 14 inches laptop. I could say "Hey dude, m15x defeats m14x..." but that is not the point of this thread.
     
  25. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes. I could not get close to a GDDR5 5850 lol
     
  26. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am not comparing it to an HP, I am comparing it to 15'' notebooks. One of them just happens to be an HP notebook.

    The point is that it is closer in size to 15.6'' notebooks than it is 14'' notebooks. And who cares about thickness? When you are talking about size, I think thickness, weight, depth and length should all be considered.
     
  27. KillerBunny

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    Honestly guys, its not a big deal. Stop bickering. The m14x is the same depth and thickness as most other 15in gaming laptops. However it is about an inch less length wise. If you want to spam me, check the stats listed above first.

    We've established the 555 is weaker than the hp offering. The m14x is the lower end replacement for the m15x, and the m17x r3 is the upper end replacement. That's pretty much settled. If you want to start comparing 15in laptops, bring in the m17x r3. After all, it's dimensions are "about the same" as any 15in. <--JK But depth and thickness are actually about the same