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    Idling at 60 C, throttle at 65

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by ori0nn, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. ori0nn

    ori0nn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Right now for whatever reason my GPU is idling at 60 c, and since the 650m throttles at 65c is there any way i can cahnge that number?
     
  2. eats7

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    short term: possibly a repaste, long term, complain to dell and hopefully they update the bios to not throttle at 65
     
  3. RttlnSnK

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    Same thing happened to me. Live in Malaysia, so we get 30C days all year round. If I not using a cooling pad or be in a air conditioned room, the GT650M will throttle. Maybe AW forgot that alot of countries are not as cool as the USA. Hope they fix that, or just raise the cap to 70C.
     
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    True true I am having the same issue as well in Singapore. Hopefully they raise the cap to it's former Nvidia 555 which was 80 degrees C ?
     
  5. shadowyani

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    Retina macbook here with gt 650m. Re-paste and still throttling at 70C, sometimes even earlier. There's plenty of headroom even for an overclock (lol I know, Apple gaming) but the chip just wants to play it safe. *sigh*

    Oh well, more work, less play.
     
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    Wait wait. Even a 650m in an Apple notebook is having the same issue? So is it a GPU issue or can this be fixed by Alienware? If not I am sending back my laptop for a refund as it is not performing for what I paid for..... At least with a Asus laptop with it's double exhaust cooling system I know the system is cool and will work well.
     
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    oopsie! I may have to return this laptop also... I have already run into performance issues the later I go into my average 4 hour VJ gig. Things start smooth, but I start to get more and more dropped frames as the night goes on. It reminds me of what my r1 would do :[ This is just one reason why I do not recommend AW for live performances. The notebooks seem like they are not tuned properly to deliver max bandwidth on any front, from the use of crap thermal paste to the SATA speed issues on the r1. Every time I push the m14x, it acts unhappy. I'm sure gamers get good framerates, but LOL @ AW because they could be so much more than a gaming brand. Oh, well...
     
  8. salanos

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    Well, actually, throttling rates is usually in the VBIOS, so if nVIDIA launched the GT 650M with a VBIOS that has a low-throttling threshold... well, possible.
     
  9. eats7

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    yeah, but the VBIOS is part of the main system BIOS which can be updated. svl7 is currently looking into this. The reason it's also on the apple machine is probably because the default throttle rate for the 650m is 65 and this is put into all vbios's. hopefully this can be changed.
     
  10. shadowyani

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    Which is great except for us Retina owners; Nhibitor can't even see my vbios my guess is that its been heavily locked down by Apple. I shouldn't be throttling at 70C either but there it is. :(

    Hopefully Retina owners will get a way to access vbios as well; the 650M is really an amazing chip there's no need for it to be so cautious since the GPU doesn't get that hot anyhow and if it is throttling for safety reasons...well...I promise I won't use mine on my lap.

    Throttle control pretty pweeze! Meanwhile, good luck to all you 650M owners out there hopefully we'll get Nvidia's attention.
     
  11. shadowyani

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    Well it isn't a cooling issue that's for certain. Its just being too safe. :\

    My macbook is being coy :(

    Such a tease to play the first 10 minutes of gaming at 900MHZ clock just to have it stripped away for a pedestrian 725MHZ...

    *cries
     
  12. shadowyani

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    *bump* any 650M owners solve this? I'd love to do some on the go gaming that doesn't involve lugging my m18x around. Specifically the Retina Macbook's 650M that is.

    Well I mean it games...just at a pedestrian 725mhz instead of the whopping 900mhz all the review sites claim they're getting.
     
  13. HansTee

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    Every generation has its own special problems. And my experience is it only get solved in the next generation. So by all means the best idea here is still a workaround. Either by mod / repaste or by decreasing the performance.

    Intel for example is not even fixing their native usb chipset drivers in the ivy bridge generation cause its not the masses that got problems with it but a minority.

    Nvidia has a similar politics and is also ignoring demands of such minoritys. However what i wanted to tell you is dont wait for a big brand to help a minority like us it just wont happen - thats how it worked and works.

    99% of the people experiencing problems dont even know why it happens and 10% of the rest 1% are posting on forums which is by far not enough to put any work into fixing it for such a brand.
     
  14. eats7

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    i turned off turbo boost for the cpu in the bios. havent had it happen... yet.